UKIP don't want benefit claimants driving.

Anyone arguing for it is fighting a losing battle, they either clearly haven't thought about the consequences of such a policy, the difficulties of implementing it and the complete ridiculousness of it....Or they're one of those high horse bastards who just want people on benefits to miserable and punish them for being poor.

I also don't get why some right wingers are supporting it. It is unnecessary intrusion into the lives of citizens which would be very complicated and costly to enforce, not something you'd expect right wingers to be in favour of - they're normally against regulations they consider "unnecessary".

What of those who live in areas with little/no public transport? Not to mention many jobs ask for the applicant to have their own form of transport, so they could be missing out on jobs.

If you live in or near a city you can get public transport, if not then exceptions could be made. If you need hospital, taxi, or if really necessary ambulance. If you want to have fun... get a job. Welfare spending is too big a slice of this pie, especially with our creaking NHS.

Living where you want, or where you were born, isn't a necessity.

I also don't get why some right wingers are supporting it. It is unnecessary intrusion into the lives of citizens which would be very complicated and costly to enforce, not something you'd expect right wingers to be in favour of - they're normally against regulations they consider "unnecessary".

With what money are you going to effect a move?

This very much someone getting sod all on JSA is unlikely to be able to pay for van hire to move, let alone a deposit or any other fees. Some people really need to take a step back and actually think.

You wouldn't be allowed van hire anyway in this hypothetical - driving is banned You'd have to pay for a removal company!

I don't for a second believe that is the norm and is likely just an isolated case, especially if you are talking about her getting a higher rate of disability benefit which is ridiculously difficult to get now, many many truly disabled people have had it cut. I should know my mum had hers cut despite the fact I have to bathe and dress her,....but of course she is fit for work.

You'd be amazed the number of people that turn up to showrooms putting on a show.
One dude came in in a wheelchair and was spotted later that evening leathered and dancing around at a club by a colleague.

On another occasion some dude was kicking off that motab wouldn't pay for his car to have leather seats. He was knocking around in an old range rover classic. Had a full on tantrum in the dealership "my range rover has leather so why can't this come with leather" It can if you pay the extra "I'm not paying extra".

Another lot had come back from spain and had only come back because they were "better off in the UK because benefits gave them more money than his building job".

I hear people getting shirty saying oh there's only 1.5% of people on benefits that are scroungers. They neatly ignore the fact that the people who supply the statistic are the ones under scrutiny.
I've seen both sides of the fence having taken care of a wheelchair bound grandparent.
There's a hell of a lot of people out there that shouldn't be on the amount of benefits they are on and a hell of a lot more who shouldn't be on it at all.

I still highly doubt the number of cases which many people think that **** happens.

I think that's because you're looking at it from the perspective of living with a relative who's genuinely disabled.
Believe me I can totally empathise with you in that I understand what a ball ache it can be to get hold of something so basic like a radar key.

That being said, I don't think you've not seen the other side of the coin. Most genuinely disabled people just want to get on with life with the minimum of fuss and live as close to a normal life as possible.
You can tell the chancers a mile off - they are very quick to use the words "I am entitled to X because of Y Z etc..." They also tend to be quite unpleasant obnoxious people.

Like I said, I've had experience at both ends of the scale. When you genuinely need to get some help for someone it's a nightmare jumping through the hoops that are put in your path. Similarly, it's hard to bite your tongue when you deal with certain individuals that have managed to con their way through the system.

You'd be amazed the number of people that turn up to showrooms putting on a show.
One dude came in in a wheelchair and was spotted later that evening leathered and dancing around at a club by a colleague.

On another occasion some dude was kicking off that motab wouldn't pay for his car to have leather seats. He was knocking around in an old range rover classic. Had a full on tantrum in the dealership "my range rover has leather so why can't this come with leather" It can if you pay the extra "I'm not paying extra".
"It's to help you get around not to fund a lifestyle". He didn't like being told that...
That particular car ended up sitting on their drive and came back at the end of the term with 300 miles on the clock. They just wanted a new car to flash infront of the neighbours IMHO.

Another lot had come back from spain and had only come back because they were "better off in the UK because benefits gave them more money than his building job".

I can think of loads more chancers just like the above.

I hear people getting shirty saying oh there's only 1.5% of people on benefits that are scroungers. They neatly ignore the fact that the people who supply the statistic are the ones under scrutiny.
I've seen both sides of the fence having taken care of a wheelchair bound grandparent.
There's a hell of a lot of people out there that shouldn't be on the amount of benefits they are on and a hell of a lot more who shouldn't be on it at all.

Because the governance of the country is not all about you.

So they can drive to job interviews, get a job, pay for your usage of the roads and the NHS. In some parts of the country driving is vital... Not a luxury at all. Plus having a car and a license would make someone more employable.

So basically all you are saying is we should make it harder for people to find work.... Because you don't want to pay for them to drive?

All those banks getting handed European taxpayers' money by the state to prop up their balance sheets.