If we came 4th AND won the Europa League, who gets Champions League? The team in 5th or the Europa League finalist?
Neither - they'd just re-jig which teams enter which qualifying round (so for example the Maltese and Estonian champions might move to the second round, Austrian and Croatian champions move to play-off round, Greek and Czech champions move to group stage). It's happened quite often in the past depending on whether or not the previous CL winner has qualified through their domestic league or not
If we came 4th AND won the Europa League, who gets Champions League? The team in 5th or the Europa League finalist?
Neither will get it, even if the winner of the EL gets 4th place, it changes nothing and they qualify for CL playoffs unless they finish 3rd or above in which they will go straight into the group stages.
Neither - they'd just re-jig which teams enter which qualifying round (so for example the Maltese and Estonian champions might move to the second round, Austrian and Croatian champions move to play-off round, Greek and Czech champions move to group stage). It's happened quite often in the past depending on whether or not the previous CL winner has qualified through their domestic league or not
So when Liverpool returned to the CL in 06 despite finishing 5th, at the expense of Everton, this wouldn't happen again either?
Scratch that actually, Yahoo answered for me, UEFA brought in a rule after 05 that if a CL winner came outside top 4, they would replace the team in 4th. I'm assuming this still holds, so should Chelsea win the CL, they will get the 4th English qualifying spot, not City as is. Then if you add in, say United winning the EL, you would have no City in the CL but 5 other teams and two who havent finished in top 4.