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War on terror debate

Faefae

What do u guys think on the situation and the west's approach to the whole thing! Let's discuss!

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Reply 1

the bear

Terry Terrorist has been given a bloody good hiding by the Americans.

Reply 2

Ninja Squirrel

Original post by the bear

Terry Terrorist has been given a bloody good hiding by the Americans.

Reminds me of wack-a-mole, they just keep popping up again in different places.

Reply 3

Faefae

I find it hard to understand how one can declare war on an ideology. 'Terror' is not physical. You can't combat it.

Reply 4

Davij038

Original post by Faefae

I find it hard to understand how one can declare war on an ideology. 'Terror' is not physical. You can't combat it.

Propaganda innit.

Well you can declare war on ideology actually- the West is attempting to do it (very unsuccessfully) with people it seems to be ‘ ‘extremist’ whether they be Islamists or the ‘far right’

Reply 5

Faefae

Original post by Davij038

Well I have yet to see the West combat the 'far right' lol. It will never happen because 1: the West is built off far-right, capitalist ideology and 2: I'm sure the 'war on terror' was declared to specifically target Islam and the Middle East cuz that has been their sole focus since 2001

Reply 6

Irman.g

War on Terror is brand name for media use. What it really means it War on Arabs, or better, War against Arabs.

Reply 7

999tigger

Original post by Faefae

I find it hard to understand how one can declare war on an ideology. 'Terror' is not physical. You can't combat it.

Are you being deliberately stupid? It described a phase that was aimed at a war on terrorism and those who perpetrate or support it.
Terrorists and its supporters are physical and yes you can combat it in that sense.

Reply 8

999tigger

Original post by Irman.g

War on Terror is brand name for media use. What it really means it War on Arabs, or better, War against Arabs.

If they happen to be terrorists or support its usage against the west then yes. Only a minority though, so hardly a war on all arabs.

Reply 9

Davij038

Original post by Faefae

Well I have yet to see the West combat the 'far right' lol. It will never happen because 1: the West is built off far-right, capitalist ideology

😂

That’s true actually (at least by today’s standards) but the ruling system is not ‘far right’ hence why it supports things like mass immigration, gay marriage and trans rights etc

A recent example could be barring ‘far right’ soeakers like Lauren southern from entering the UK or allow Milo Yianopolous to give speeches

and 2: I'm sure the 'war on terror' was declared to specifically target Islam and the Middle East cuz that has been their sole focus since 2001

Not really Islam. Do you remember the many times Obama, bush and Cameron and also our current government went to great pains to say that Islam is a religion of peace.

The wars have been to

1- spread democracy through the idea its in our interest to do so- see democratic peace theory

2- protect Israel

Reply 10

Irman.g

Original post by 999tigger

If they happen to be terrorists or support its usage against the west then yes. Only a minority though, so hardly a war on all arabs.

Yes, that's what tooth fairy told you.

Reply 11

999tigger

Original post by Irman.g

Yes, that's what tooth fairy told you.

Oh dear victimitis. It was obvious the US was going to respond after 9/11. No need for the tooth fairy.

Reply 12

Irman.g

Original post by 999tigger

Oh dear victimitis. It was obvious the US was going to respond after 9/11. No need for the tooth fairy.

Lol bruh. Just crawl back into your consumer lifestyle and leave things alone of which you have no understanding of.

Reply 13

999tigger

Original post by Irman.g

Lol bruh. Just crawl back into your consumer lifestyle and leave things alone of which you have no understanding of.

You arent even able to answer questions, just pretend you are the only one who understands.

So presumably you've never bought goods or services,

consumer
kənˈsjuːmə/ noun noun:
consumer; plural noun: consumers

a person who purchases goods and services for personal use.

Reply 14

SCIENCE :D

It is failing terribly and terrorism in Europe will only get worse in the coming years.

Reply 15

mattchaamp

Original post by 999tigger

If they happen to be terrorists or support its usage against the west then yes. Only a minority though, so hardly a war on all arabs.

and yet middle eastern civilians are treated as collateral every time the US deploys their drones

Reply 16

999tigger

Original post by mattchaamp

and yet middle eastern civilians are treated as collateral every time the US deploys their drones

Thats what happens in wars. If they wanted to do it indiscriminantly then you would have serious numbers. Same with the Russians and they use dumb weapons.

Reply 17

mattchaamp

Original post by 999tigger

Thats what happens in wars. If they wanted to do it indiscriminantly then you would have serious numbers. Same with the Russians and they use dumb weapons.

And yet, every time you destabilize regions and they lose an oversight and authority, it becomes a free for all and its usually jihadists and islamists that gain control.

So not only does the US recklessly bomb the middle east and then not recognise the ICC, they also fail to achieve much of their original goal. War is nothing more than creating economic activity

Agreed with the russians though, they have far more ulterior motives like securing syrian oil

Reply 18

999tigger

Original post by SCIENCE :D

It is failing terribly and terrorism in Europe will only get worse in the coming years.

Questionable.
You cant say what the state of terrorism would have been had there been no response.
There have been failures and some very big ones, but not seeing the situation et any worse either in Europe or the USA. It is still at manageable levels. Had either AQ or ISIS established themselves properly, then they would be a lot more terrorists and attacks.

Reply 19

999tigger

Original post by Irman.g

Lol why do you even care about US, 9/11, War of Terror or whatever BS they make you believe on the news.
Just go watch some Netflix comedy movie, eat a cheeseburger or check out Instagram updates.

Consumer lifestyle is not just buying goods and services. It's a complete religion.

Your answers are getting even more stupid. You are determined to be a victim.

The US cared quite a lot about 9/11 as an act of unprovoked mass murder. Are you saying it didnt happen? You really are ignorant.

If people from a terrorist organisation attack a world superpower, then they tend to get annoyed and strike back. Thats the whirlwind you reap.

You talk about consumerism, yet you are using a phone or a PC on the internet. The irony.