General Election is ON - Thursday 12 December!

I ain't voting Labour **** them

Reply 61

Stiff Little Fingers

Original post by CoffeeAndPolitics

This will be my second election ever in my lifetime and my very first General Election. :smile:

Presumably you mean since you became old enough to vote, otherwise you're a very articulate 2 year old :tongue:

It's going to be interesting to see how the timing affects it, most universities breaking up for Christmas that week might cause a few students to get lost in the chaos, and it being before Christmas with a likely very bad flu season (Australia have already had it and generally they're a good indication of what's to come) might well aid the Tories, in as much as OAPs are heavily skewed conservative, and might well not be around for an election if it were held in January. That said, if Labour can turn it away from the inevitable brexit election, they've got a very good chance, as homelessness, food bank use and working poverty are all more visible in the run up to Christmas, and their policies tend to resonate with the guilt or struggle in seeing those in action more.

Reply 62

Snufflesxo

13

Excited for the chance to kick the Tories out but also feeling anxious by the thought of the Tories staying in power. :puke:

EDIT: will be voting Labour

(edited 4 years ago)

Reply 63

OP

The early election ads are out.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/30/bring-it-on-memes-and-guy-ropes-of-self-doubt-the-first-uk-general-election-ads

The pundits say the Labour one is the slickest.

Reply 64

OP

Lol. Priti 'Law and Order' Patel's Chief of Staff, James Starkie (a former big wheel in the Leave campaign) was ejected from a Commons bar and escorted out by armed police after swearing loudly and kicking up at Tory MP Bob Stewart last night.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/30/priti-patel-aide-ejected-by-armed-police-from-westminster-bar

Looks like some of the SPADs are getting in quite a state.

Reply 65

OP

Quite a lot of MPs are standing down at this election. Here is the current list (from Order-Order):

Speaker
• John Bercow, Buckingham

Conservative
• Alastair Burt, North East Bedfordshire
• Bill Grant, Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock
• Caroline Spelman, Meriden
• Claire Perry, Devizes
• David Jones, Clwyd West
• David Tredinnick, Bosworth
• Glyn Davies, Montgomeryshire
• Hugo Swire, East Devon
• Jeremy Lefroy, Stafford
• Jo Johnson, Orpington
• Keith Simpson, Broadland
• Mark Field, Cities of London and Westminster
• Mark Prisk, Hertford & Stortford
• Michael Fallon, Sevenoaks
• Mims Davies, Eastleigh
• Nicholas Soames, Mid Sussex
• Nick Hurd, Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner
• Richard Benyon, Newbury
• Richard Harrington, Watford
• Sarah Newton, Truro and Falmouth
• Seema Kennedy, South Ribble

Labour
• Albert Owen, Ynys Mon
• Ann Clwyd, Cynon Valley
• Geoffrey Robinson, Coventry North West
• Gloria De Piero, Ashfield
• Ian Lucas, Wrexham
• Jim Cunningham, Coventry South
• Jim Fitzpatrick, Poplar and Limehouse
• John Mann, Bassetlaw
• Kate Hoey, Vauxhall
• Kevin Barron, Rother Valley
• Louise Ellman, Liverpool Riverside
• Owen Smith, Pontypridd
• Paul Farrelly, Newcastle-under-Lyme
• Roberta Blackman-Woods, City of Durham
• Ronnie Campbell, Blyth Valley
• Stephen Pound, Ealing North
• Stephen Twigg, Liverpool West Derby
• Teresa Pearce, Erith and Thamesmead

Lib Dem
• Norman Lamb, North Norfolk
• Vince Cable, Twickenham

Former-Tory, Former-Change UK, Former-Independent, Former ‘The Independents’, Now Lib Dem
• Heidi Allen, South Cambridgeshire

Conservative Independents
• Guto Bebb, Aberconwy
• Oliver Letwin, West Dorset
• Justine Greening, Putney
• Ken Clarke, Rushcliffe
• Nick Boles, Grantham

Independent
• Joan Ryan, Enfield North
• Rory Stewart, Penrith and the Border

Reply 66

Stiff Little Fingers

And apparently it might soon be off again if Parliament agrees to extend franchise to 16 & 17 year olds: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-general-election-bill-16-17-year-old-vote-eu-citizen-commons-a9176271.html

Reply 67

Rakas21

Original post by Stiff Little Fingers

And apparently it might soon be off again if Parliament agrees to extend franchise to 16 & 17 year olds: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-general-election-bill-16-17-year-old-vote-eu-citizen-commons-a9176271.html

That’s out of date because it was written 19 hours ago. The bill passed its Commons stages unamended, it is believed unlikely that the Lords would try amend it.

Reply 68

Rakas21

Original post by Fullofsurprises

Quite a lot of MPs are standing down at this election. Here is the current list (from Order-Order):

Speaker
• John Bercow, Buckingham

Conservative
• Alastair Burt, North East Bedfordshire
• Bill Grant, Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock
• Caroline Spelman, Meriden
• Claire Perry, Devizes
• David Jones, Clwyd West
• David Tredinnick, Bosworth
• Glyn Davies, Montgomeryshire
• Hugo Swire, East Devon
• Jeremy Lefroy, Stafford
• Jo Johnson, Orpington
• Keith Simpson, Broadland
• Mark Field, Cities of London and Westminster
• Mark Prisk, Hertford & Stortford
• Michael Fallon, Sevenoaks
• Mims Davies, Eastleigh
• Nicholas Soames, Mid Sussex
• Nick Hurd, Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner
• Richard Benyon, Newbury
• Richard Harrington, Watford
• Sarah Newton, Truro and Falmouth
• Seema Kennedy, South Ribble

Labour
• Albert Owen, Ynys Mon
• Ann Clwyd, Cynon Valley
• Geoffrey Robinson, Coventry North West
• Gloria De Piero, Ashfield
• Ian Lucas, Wrexham
• Jim Cunningham, Coventry South
• Jim Fitzpatrick, Poplar and Limehouse
• John Mann, Bassetlaw
• Kate Hoey, Vauxhall
• Kevin Barron, Rother Valley
• Louise Ellman, Liverpool Riverside
• Owen Smith, Pontypridd
• Paul Farrelly, Newcastle-under-Lyme
• Roberta Blackman-Woods, City of Durham
• Ronnie Campbell, Blyth Valley
• Stephen Pound, Ealing North
• Stephen Twigg, Liverpool West Derby
• Teresa Pearce, Erith and Thamesmead

Lib Dem
• Norman Lamb, North Norfolk
• Vince Cable, Twickenham

Former-Tory, Former-Change UK, Former-Independent, Former ‘The Independents’, Now Lib Dem
• Heidi Allen, South Cambridgeshire

Conservative Independents
• Guto Bebb, Aberconwy
• Oliver Letwin, West Dorset
• Justine Greening, Putney
• Ken Clarke, Rushcliffe
• Nick Boles, Grantham

Independent
• Joan Ryan, Enfield North
• Rory Stewart, Penrith and the Border

Brilliant, I was just going to post.

Amber Rudd (Tory again) and Patrick Mcglocklan are also not standing.

Reply 69

Original post by Rock Fan

I ain't voting Labour **** them

Why?

Reply 70

OP

Original post by Rakas21

Brilliant, I was just going to post.

Amber Rudd (Tory again) and Patrick Mcglocklan are also not standing.

Oh right, that's interesting - McLoughlin had a huge Tory majority, but Rudd's Hastings and Rye seat is very marginal.

Reply 71

JohnJones5

2

Original post by Wired_1800

Why?

Labour would be disastrous for Britain
1- Nationalisation would decrease the efficiency of energy companies and would cost a fortune
2- Higher Taxes and Inflation - inflation is a tax on poor people - which would be caused by Labour printing money
3- Seizing company assets https://www.ft.com/content/dc17d7ee-ccab-11e9-b018-ca4456540ea6 - would cause financial markets to crash
4- Abolishing private schools
5- Leaving NATO - would be disastrous for national security
6- Higher minimum wage - despite good intentions, would cause higher unemployment and inflation

Reply 72

Original post by CoolCavy

Glad i registered to vote after being poked into action by some tsr members :yeah:

Great. Please vote Labour! For the many, not the few.

Reply 73

RJDG14

16

At this point it's very difficult to predict. While opinion polls currently give them a 10-15% lead over Labour, this could change and our first past the post system means that there could be a lot of highly concentrated votes in strongly pro Leave areas while they may fail to pick up enough votes to Labour and the Lib Dems in other areas. As a result, I selected the "don't know" option.

Original post by Wired_1800

Great. Please vote Labour! For the many, not the few.

Whoever i decide to vote for it will certainly not be on the back of any tsr members telling me how to vote :smile:

Reply 75

OP

Original post by RJDG14

At this point it's very difficult to predict. While opinion polls currently give them a 10-15% lead over Labour, this could change and our first past the post system means that there could be a lot of highly concentrated votes in strongly pro Leave areas while they may fail to pick up enough votes to Labour and the Lib Dems in other areas. As a result, I selected the "don't know" option.

I'd expected the poll to be predicting a big Tory win, but it's clearly more in the air than that.

Reply 76

Original post by CoolCavy

Whoever i decide to vote for it will certainly not be on the back of any tsr members telling me how to vote :smile:

I agree with you. Nobody should tell you how to vote. It is your right to engage in the electoral process.

It is our hope that people understand this is our chance to get our nation back from the hands of the Tory Government. If not for yourself, then for your family, friends and, hopefully, future generations.

https://mobile.twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1189250467303440385

As long as you participate in the electoral process, I have no qualms. For the many, not the few!

Original post by Wired_1800

I agree with you. Nobody should tell you how to vote. It is your right to engage in the electoral process.

It is our hope that people understand this is our chance to get our nation back from the hands of the Tory Government. If not for yourself, then for your family, friends and, hopefully, future generations.

https://mobile.twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1189250467303440385

As long as you participate in the electoral process, I have no qualms. For the many, not the few!

Please stop trying to sway me :smile:

I am more than capable of looking up different party manifestos and making my own decisions. You say nobody should tell people how to vote and in the same breath say please vote labour.
It's quite insulting when people try to ram their views and belief down your throat, i wouldnt do this to you and ask you to treat me with the same courtesy

Reply 78

Original post by CoolCavy

Please stop trying to sway me :smile:

I am more than capable of looking up different party manifestos and making my own decisions. You say nobody should tell people how to vote and in the same breath say please vote labour.
It's quite insulting when people try to ram their views and belief down your throat, i wouldnt do this to you and ask you to treat me with the same courtesy

I did not mean to insult you and was not “ramming my views down your throat”. I was only putting a perspective out there and, as you claim, you are intelligent enough to receive it & form your own opinions. If I can convince you how to vote in 2 posts on TSR, then anyone including the BNP, Lib Dems or Brexit Party can do the same thing.

I did not mean to offend you. If you felt offended, then I apologise. I have suggested to others on TSR to vote for Labour, even though they have ignored my request. It is not a do-or-die matter, it was a request made with the assumption that you may be undecided or leaning towards a non-Labour Party candidate.

All the best. For the many, not the few!

Reply 79