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(Original post by difeo)
strong adding in of assists
Considering Coutinho's primary focus is to create and Martial's primary focus is to score, how is that an invalid assessment?

Although if we're talking just goals, Coutinho has a better record anyway.
He has 6 from 20 and Martial has 7 from 24 (0.3 vs 0.29 goals per game).

Nice try
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(Original post by Lúcio)
Considering Coutinho's primary focus is to create and Martial's primary focus is to score, how is that an invalid assessment?

Although if we're talking just goals, Coutinho has a better record anyway.
He has 6 from 20 and Martial has 7 from 24 (0.3 vs 0.29 goals per game).

Nice try
it was a conversation about goals
you randomly added in assists
that's why it's invalid
pretty simple
nothing you just said is relevant
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(Original post by difeo)
it was a conversation about goals
you randomly added in assists
that's why it's invalid
pretty simple
nothing you just said is relevant
Is it really fair to compare a striker to a midfielder by only using goalscoring stats?

Regardless, I just showed Coutinho STILL beats the great Martial in goalscoring so you have literally no leg to stand on mate.

I know it's painful to lose to Lúcio but just accept it and move on
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Considering Coutinho takes about 1000000 shots per game, he's bound to score a few.

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Baboon ya know!

Man like Sentry bursting several blood vessels in anger.
People always read way too much into stuff, I just enjoy swearing
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(Original post by Lúcio)
Is it really fair to compare a striker to a midfielder by only using goalscoring stats?

Regardless, I just showed Coutinho STILL beats the great Martial in goalscoring so you have literally no leg to stand on mate.

I know it's painful to lose to Lúcio but just accept it and move on
you're not following
the numbers aren't the point
only goals were being talked about (in a totally non-serious discussion btw)
you thought Coutinho would have a worse record in that regard
so you sneakily added in assists to make his record better than Martial's
but no one was talking about assists
that was my point
"strong adding in of assists"
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(Original post by WeOnlyLiveOnce)
Considering Coutinho takes about 1000000 shots per game, he's bound to score a few.

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He still has to get in the position, find the space and score the goal. Don't be bitter.

Martial will explode in the next few years. For now just accept he isn't as good as you make out.
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(Original post by difeo)
you're not following
the numbers aren't the point
only goals were being talked about (in a totally non-serious discussion btw)
you thought Coutinho would have a worse record in that regard
so you sneakily added in assists to make his record better than Martial's
but no one was talking about assists
that was my point
"strong adding in of assists"
True, I assumed the midfielder would have a worse goalscoring record than the "amazing" striker. Big surprise.

Upon inspection, I was delighted to find Coutinho was superior. You have no argument so you're trying to get out of it with an invalid technicality. What a woman.
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(Original post by Lúcio)
He still has to get in the position, find the space and score the goal. Don't be bitter.

Martial will explode in the next few years. For now just accept he isn't as good as you make out.
Its not being bitter. If anything its probably you getting so riled up.

I just pointed out the fact that he continually takes about a billion shots per game which leads to a greater chance of scoring a goal, which is more than a reasonable conclusion.

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(Original post by Lúcio)
True, I assumed the midfielder would have a worse goalscoring record than the "amazing" striker. Big surprise.

Upon inspection, I was delighted to find Coutinho was superior. You have no argument so you're trying to get out of it with an invalid technicality. What a woman.
Clearly you don't understand so we'll leave it
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(Original post by WeOnlyLiveOnce)
Considering Coutinho takes about 1000000 shots per game, he's bound to score a few.

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http://www.squawka.com/comparison-ma...total_shots#90

lmao
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(Original post by difeo)
Clearly you don't understand so we'll leave it
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LOOOOOOOOL

Typical Difeo. Nice to see you can still take a loss like a man
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(Original post by Lúcio)
LOOOOOOOOL

Typical Difeo. Nice to see you can still take a loss like a man
It's not a loss when I've explained what I was saying and you're creating a separate debate that wasn't ever happening
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(Original post by difeo)
Clearly you don't understand so we'll leave it
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http://www.squawka.com/comparison-ma...total_shots#90

lmao
And there's the evidence for it. Nice one

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(Original post by WeOnlyLiveOnce)
Its not being bitter. If anything its probably you getting so riled up.

I just pointed out the fact that he continually takes about a billion shots per game which leads to a greater chance of scoring a goal, which is more than a reasonable conclusion.

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In fairness, he takes a lot of shots because he has the ability to work himself in to space at his optimal shooting range.
Granted it can be frustrating at time but equally he can score world class goals and win matches. He's easily the best player we have so maybe he feels the extra pressure to take the shot and get the goal.

I don't think it matters to be honest. He scores the goals and also provides plenty of assists. If he was at United, we both know you'd be raving like me and I'd be desperately trying to look for a hole in his playing style.
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(Original post by difeo)
It's not a loss when I've explained what I was saying and you're creating a separate debate that wasn't ever happening
I mentioned assists yes.

I then went back to goals only and showed Coutinho is better. So yes, it is a loss
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(Original post by difeo)
did he ever leave
2-1 hehe

Imagine thinking a soon to be 28 year old injury plagued Agüero is worth a full £20m+ more than a 22 year old Kane who's scored goals at a similar goal:game ratio and stayed injury free despite playing nearly every game in a notoriously difficult high press philosophy under Pochettino for two seasons straight, whilst chucking in a poverty u21 tournament in the summer.
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(Original post by WeOnlyLiveOnce)
Its not being bitter. If anything its probably you getting so riled up.

I just pointed out the fact that he continually takes about a billion shots per game which leads to a greater chance of scoring a goal, which is more than a reasonable conclusion.

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If it was so simple scoring from taking a million shots than everyone would be doing it.
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(Original post by Lúcio)
Considering Coutinho's primary focus is to create and Martial's primary focus is to score, how is that an invalid assessment?

Although if we're talking just goals, Coutinho has a better record anyway.
He has 6 from 20 and Martial has 7 from 24 (0.3 vs 0.29 goals per game).

Nice try
Let's talk about net goals mate, think about the net goals!
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(Original post by Lúcio)
I mentioned assists yes.

I then went back to goals only and showed Coutinho is better. So yes, it is a loss
At no point was anyone having a genuine debate about who has scored more. There was my first comment in this chat, which was just taking the piss out of you for always bringing up Coutinho
You then (assuming that Martial would've scored more) tried to turn it into a proper debate and added in assists so Coutinho would win. But at no point was anyone a) seriously discussing their goal records b) even talking about assists

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If it was so simple scoring from taking a million shots than everyone would be doing it.
It's not simple, Coutinho has a pitiful goals per shot record
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