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Struggling and want to drop out

I'm doing econ maths physics and computer science. Im struggling really badly in these A levels first of all I didn't take econ in gcse and it's really difficult fore to catch up. In maths I can't answer most questions while knowing the concept and got CDUU in my term 1 end term. I don't think I will be able to pass my AS level exams as Im international and will be sitting for them. Sometime I just break down because I work do hard but nothing enters my head or I fail all the tests. I give up I don't want to study at a level anymore I HATE IT. Please tell me there is another option I can take this is becoming unbearable anymore. I don't want to do a levels anymore I give up
(edited 3 years ago)
If you really don't think you can cope/ handle 6th form anymore then you have a couple of options after you drop out:
1. You could always try college which might be better
2. Go straight into work (full time/ part-time)
3. Take a Gap Year
4. See if there are any available apprenticeships available near where you live as so may only consider your GCSE's.
This decision is also based on what you want your future career to be as some may require a-levels/ BTECs or a degree.
Hope this helps :smile:
Original post by Chaos126forever
I'm doing econ maths physics and computer science. Im struggling really badly in these A levels first of all I didn't take econ in gcse and it's really difficult fore to catch up. In maths I can't answer most questions while knowing the concept and got CDUU in my term 1 end term. I don't think I will be able to pass my AS level exams as Im international and will be sitting for them. Sometime I just break down because I work do hard but nothing enters my head or I fail all the tests. I give up I don't want to study at a level anymore I HATE IT. Please tell me there is another option I can take this is becoming unbearable anymore. I don't want to do a levels anymore I give up

Well, it appears you are overwhelming yourself. In order to study develop rituals, you need to do so through gradual accumulation.

Now, one must write a plan to ensure that they stick to a revision schedule. Indeed, if you wish, you may drop out, go to college and go for an apprenticeship, but the vast majority of those working in the highest positions in their field often have a degree, and this has been proven statistically. This is not to say that the college and apprenticeship route is less valuable, but that those who go down this route and make it to the highest positions make up fewer of those positions i.e. there are greater outliers. Therefore, I would recommend sticking to the A-level and university route, so as long as the degree you wish to do is going to get a return on the investment (which was taking out the student loans, and the return being that you eventually get a high-paying job, such that it can not only allow you to comfortably pay back your loans, but let you lead a good life).

First of all, you need to establish how much revision you are doing daily. 1 hours? None at all, and just watching Youtube? In this instance, you need to determine how much time you allocate to things in your life. To use me as an example, I know that there are 24 hours in a day. As a result, I dedicate 10 hours for sleeping, which I now regularly get 10 hours of sleep a day, 6 hours of revision, and 8 hours of personal time. I have done this through gradual accumulation, which I will explain now. Gradual accumulation of habits is when you begin bettering your life one step at a time. To give an example in your case, you got CDUU for economics, maths, physics and computer science respectively in your first term (I assume, given the order in which you wrote). Therefore, you need to set a realistic target that you hope to achieve within the next month, and then the next, and then the next etc. Do you believe you can improve your grade by one every two months? I believe you can. Therefore, in 5 months, you can go from CDUU to ABEE. However, the two Us I believe are outliers, and so this can be improved much more drastically. Now that you have set realistic targets, you need to work within your means. If you do no revision at all, simply do 3 hours a day. No more, no less. Do this for a week straight, and hopefully, by the fifth day of the week, you become comfortable with 3 hours a day, such that you can bump this up to 4. Then, do 4 hours of revision a day for a week, so that by the fifth day of that week, you may be comfortable with that, and increase it weekly by an hour, until you reach a maximum of 8. I recommend you should not do more than 8 hours of revision a day. Yes, school is your main priority, but it should not take over your life. You need to also engage in things you enjoy. Now, in a month, you would have gone from 0 hours of revision, to then doing 6 hours of revision a day by the end of the month. You have already made a huge improvement, should you stick to what I have said. Also, do not revise for 3 hours straight in your first week. Split it into 3 blocks of 1 hour sessions to make it easier, but if you enter a state of flow, do not exit it unless you have to, such as for toilet breaks or lunch. Once you are in a state of flow, you enter this productivity mode where you are simply at one with your work, and this is good.

Now that I have given general tips, let me be more specific. Your aim for the end of the year should be to achieve ABBB. Then, once you get this, you can push for AAAA as predicted grades, and it is plain sailing from there, so as long as you remain to your schedule. In fact, why not just do 3 A-levels? Why do 4? Every university simply requires 3 A-levels, and so doing 4 is totally unecessary. In fact, simply drop the one that you least enjoy, and just do 3. Therefore, in a week, which is 7 days, you dedicate 2 days for each subject, and take a rest day in between. By doing 4 A-levels, you can only dedicate 1 day for 1 subject, and 2 for the rest, which would mean you do not dedicate equal time for each subject. Believe me, just do 3 A-levels.

Another tip is organisation. For each subject, make a folder on your OneDrive, Google Drive or whatever device you use. In your case, it would Economics, Maths and Computer Science (let us say that you dropped Physics for example, for argument's sake). In each folder, you need the specification, textbook (if you have a digital copy) and every single past exam paper that is in accordance with that exam board. When you revise, you should have the specification, the textbook, and your note-taking application (if you write notes digitally, but if you use pen and paper, then that is fine, although paper consumption is not eco-friendly, and it takes considerably longer to write notes, so I recommend using OneNote or Word) open. Go through the specification and outline how many topics you have to revise. Let us say you have 10 themes or whatever. Therefore, dedicate 2 weeks to each theme, such that you finish the entire specification for AS in 20 weeks, which is 4 months. The exams are in 5 months I believe, so that means you would have finished making notes for the entire specification for AS, while revising it over of course, and so you have 1 months to dedicate your time to past exam papers, although I would recommend doing some past exam questions throughout the months, so that when the exam comes in the end of the year, the question format is not alien to you. Apply what I have just said to each subject, and you should be fine.

I have said a lot here, so if you need further advice, simply reply on this forum or message me.

Have a nice evening.
Original post by therationalbeing
Well, it appears you are overwhelming yourself. In order to study develop rituals, you need to do so through gradual accumulation.

Now, one must write a plan to ensure that they stick to a revision schedule. Indeed, if you wish, you may drop out, go to college and go for an apprenticeship, but the vast majority of those working in the highest positions in their field often have a degree, and this has been proven statistically. This is not to say that the college and apprenticeship route is less valuable, but that those who go down this route and make it to the highest positions make up fewer of those positions i.e. there are greater outliers. Therefore, I would recommend sticking to the A-level and university route, so as long as the degree you wish to do is going to get a return on the investment (which was taking out the student loans, and the return being that you eventually get a high-paying job, such that it can not only allow you to comfortably pay back your loans, but let you lead a good life).

First of all, you need to establish how much revision you are doing daily. 1 hours? None at all, and just watching Youtube? In this instance, you need to determine how much time you allocate to things in your life. To use me as an example, I know that there are 24 hours in a day. As a result, I dedicate 10 hours for sleeping, which I now regularly get 10 hours of sleep a day, 6 hours of revision, and 8 hours of personal time. I have done this through gradual accumulation, which I will explain now. Gradual accumulation of habits is when you begin bettering your life one step at a time. To give an example in your case, you got CDUU for economics, maths, physics and computer science respectively in your first term (I assume, given the order in which you wrote). Therefore, you need to set a realistic target that you hope to achieve within the next month, and then the next, and then the next etc. Do you believe you can improve your grade by one every two months? I believe you can. Therefore, in 5 months, you can go from CDUU to ABEE. However, the two Us I believe are outliers, and so this can be improved much more drastically. Now that you have set realistic targets, you need to work within your means. If you do no revision at all, simply do 3 hours a day. No more, no less. Do this for a week straight, and hopefully, by the fifth day of the week, you become comfortable with 3 hours a day, such that you can bump this up to 4. Then, do 4 hours of revision a day for a week, so that by the fifth day of that week, you may be comfortable with that, and increase it weekly by an hour, until you reach a maximum of 8. I recommend you should not do more than 8 hours of revision a day. Yes, school is your main priority, but it should not take over your life. You need to also engage in things you enjoy. Now, in a month, you would have gone from 0 hours of revision, to then doing 6 hours of revision a day by the end of the month. You have already made a huge improvement, should you stick to what I have said. Also, do not revise for 3 hours straight in your first week. Split it into 3 blocks of 1 hour sessions to make it easier, but if you enter a state of flow, do not exit it unless you have to, such as for toilet breaks or lunch. Once you are in a state of flow, you enter this productivity mode where you are simply at one with your work, and this is good.

Now that I have given general tips, let me be more specific. Your aim for the end of the year should be to achieve ABBB. Then, once you get this, you can push for AAAA as predicted grades, and it is plain sailing from there, so as long as you remain to your schedule. In fact, why not just do 3 A-levels? Why do 4? Every university simply requires 3 A-levels, and so doing 4 is totally unecessary. In fact, simply drop the one that you least enjoy, and just do 3. Therefore, in a week, which is 7 days, you dedicate 2 days for each subject, and take a rest day in between. By doing 4 A-levels, you can only dedicate 1 day for 1 subject, and 2 for the rest, which would mean you do not dedicate equal time for each subject. Believe me, just do 3 A-levels.

Another tip is organisation. For each subject, make a folder on your OneDrive, Google Drive or whatever device you use. In your case, it would Economics, Maths and Computer Science (let us say that you dropped Physics for example, for argument's sake). In each folder, you need the specification, textbook (if you have a digital copy) and every single past exam paper that is in accordance with that exam board. When you revise, you should have the specification, the textbook, and your note-taking application (if you write notes digitally, but if you use pen and paper, then that is fine, although paper consumption is not eco-friendly, and it takes considerably longer to write notes, so I recommend using OneNote or Word) open. Go through the specification and outline how many topics you have to revise. Let us say you have 10 themes or whatever. Therefore, dedicate 2 weeks to each theme, such that you finish the entire specification for AS in 20 weeks, which is 4 months. The exams are in 5 months I believe, so that means you would have finished making notes for the entire specification for AS, while revising it over of course, and so you have 1 months to dedicate your time to past exam papers, although I would recommend doing some past exam questions throughout the months, so that when the exam comes in the end of the year, the question format is not alien to you. Apply what I have just said to each subject, and you should be fine.

I have said a lot here, so if you need further advice, simply reply on this forum or message me.

Have a nice evening.

Is it necessary to write notes though because I'm not good at note taking I tried it but it doesn't workout for me. What worked for me in gcse is getting a revision guide or some online shorter notes and using recall to remember them all. Can't I just recall the info directly from the textbook? Sometime the spec is also too brief 1 bullet is 2 pages of text in the book. It is really overwhelming. I wanted to drop economics but my teacher said they would only let me drop if I am really badly struggling which I currently am. As u said about n.o of hours I put in about 4 hours a day even on December holidays but all of that didn't include writing notes. I simply just read a page write down a list of questions and try recall what I read from each of these questions then doing past papers. This process only got me Us and C. I have actually been finding a study strategy since the start of year 12 and recalling is the only thing that helps be but some of the textbook are too complicated and use big words and complex sentences I literally have to decipher each line. I really just want a B that's all so I can get into a half decent uni so maybe a revision guide would be enough for me. But not taking is not for me
Original post by Chaos126forever
Is it necessary to write notes though because I'm not good at note taking I tried it but it doesn't workout for me. What worked for me in gcse is getting a revision guide or some online shorter notes and using recall to remember them all. Can't I just recall the info directly from the textbook? Sometime the spec is also too brief 1 bullet is 2 pages of text in the book. It is really overwhelming. I wanted to drop economics but my teacher said they would only let me drop if I am really badly struggling which I currently am. As u said about n.o of hours I put in about 4 hours a day even on December holidays but all of that didn't include writing notes. I simply just read a page write down a list of questions and try recall what I read from each of these questions then doing past papers. This process only got me Us and C. I have actually been finding a study strategy since the start of year 12 and recalling is the only thing that helps be but some of the textbook are too complicated and use big words and complex sentences I literally have to decipher each line. I really just want a B that's all so I can get into a half decent uni so maybe a revision guide would be enough for me. But not taking is not for me

Well, studying off the textbook, especially when close to exam dates, is a lot of hassle, since you can simply consolidate all of the content in the textbook into, perhaps, ten or twenty pages.

This is what you tell yourself. You need to reverse engineer your life, for example:
Jamie is 12 and wants to be a doctor. To be a doctor, she needs to get into medical school, so that she can then go on to do her foundation years at the NHS, and then specialise. To get into medical school, she needs the correct A-levels, which is usually three As. To get into A-levels in the first place, she needs good GCSEs, so that she can study Biology, Chemistry and any other subjects generally required or recommended to study Medicine at university. This is an example of reverse engineering your life.

In your case, you need to tell yourself; what job do I want to have? Where do I want to be in life? An engineer? An economist? If so, what degree do I need? What A-levels does that degree need? You have already made it to stage 2, which is the A-level stage. Do not give up now, because if you do, your life will change; as to for better or worse, one cannot tell, but if you need a degree to get that job you really want, which will ultimately allow you to live an amazing life and be happy, then that should be motivation enough.

Instead of notes, why not do this (this is a spontaneous thought as I am writing this, but it seems cool)? Let us say your revision guide has 250 pages, with 25 pages for each chapter (let us say the book has 10 chapters). At the end of every chapter, you make flashcards noting down every important point, which will be most of it, but instead of paper, or Word or OneNote, you use flashcards. Flashcards are small, so it will be less overwhelming when coming to revise.
Original post by therationalbeing
Well, studying off the textbook, especially when close to exam dates, is a lot of hassle, since you can simply consolidate all of the content in the textbook into, perhaps, ten or twenty pages.

This is what you tell yourself. You need to reverse engineer your life, for example:
Jamie is 12 and wants to be a doctor. To be a doctor, she needs to get into medical school, so that she can then go on to do her foundation years at the NHS, and then specialise. To get into medical school, she needs the correct A-levels, which is usually three As. To get into A-levels in the first place, she needs good GCSEs, so that she can study Biology, Chemistry and any other subjects generally required or recommended to study Medicine at university. This is an example of reverse engineering your life.

In your case, you need to tell yourself; what job do I want to have? Where do I want to be in life? An engineer? An economist? If so, what degree do I need? What A-levels does that degree need? You have already made it to stage 2, which is the A-level stage. Do not give up now, because if you do, your life will change; as to for better or worse, one cannot tell, but if you need a degree to get that job you really want, which will ultimately allow you to live an amazing life and be happy, then that should be motivation enough.

Instead of notes, why not do this (this is a spontaneous thought as I am writing this, but it seems cool)? Let us say your revision guide has 250 pages, with 25 pages for each chapter (let us say the book has 10 chapters). At the end of every chapter, you make flashcards noting down every important point, which will be most of it, but instead of paper, or Word or OneNote, you use flashcards. Flashcards are small, so it will be less overwhelming when coming to revise.

I want to do business or software development at uni. I heard there are lots of people who are accepted to unis in Canada and alike without a level and they just do a foundation year at the uni. Can't I just do a foundation year and go from the to do business or something because I know do be a doctor lawyer or engineer you need really good grades and A levels but I though for business or alike it would be better to do a foundation year instead abraod. I heard that people found foundation years easier especially for business since it's not that academically heavy. What do you think?
Original post by Chaos126forever
I want to do business or software development at uni. I heard there are lots of people who are accepted to unis in Canada and alike without a level and they just do a foundation year at the uni. Can't I just do a foundation year and go from the to do business or something because I know do be a doctor lawyer or engineer you need really good grades and A levels but I though for business or alike it would be better to do a foundation year instead abraod. I heard that people found foundation years easier especially for business since it's not that academically heavy. What do you think?

I actually am very fond of foundation years. Not only is it less stress on you to get better grades, but foundation years allow you to find out what you truly want in life. Do a foundation year, and get your life together, such that when you start the course properly, you will already be ahead, both physically and psychologically, than the rest of the cohort. In that foundation year, reset yourself, and develop many habits that you will reep the benefits of in the future. Start to exercise, read, write and play board games to prevent cognitive decline, make some new friends if possible, join societies, travel to different museums, libraries, galleries and monuments, be free, and be yourself. However, make sure you look for good universities to do a foundation year at.
Original post by therationalbeing
I actually am very fond of foundation years. Not only is it less stress on you to get better grades, but foundation years allow you to find out what you truly want in life. Do a foundation year, and get your life together, such that when you start the course properly, you will already be ahead, both physically and psychologically, than the rest of the cohort. In that foundation year, reset yourself, and develop many habits that you will reep the benefits of in the future. Start to exercise, read, write and play board games to prevent cognitive decline, make some new friends if possible, join societies, travel to different museums, libraries, galleries and monuments, be free, and be yourself. However, make sure you look for good universities to do a foundation year at.

But I heard people go to foundation years with just gcses and no a levels. Should I do that
Original post by Chaos126forever
But I heard people go to foundation years with just gcses and no a levels. Should I do that

Hearsay on its own is never a reliable source. Do some research by going on to university websites and looking for foundation year courses, and see what their entry requirements are.

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