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Oxford no longer score GCSEs anyway, although I suspect the CTEC is an issue for most medical schools? Given you are a carer though this might change the picture though as that often gets factored as a contextual flag - not sure how Oxford specifically manage contextual applicants though.

You really would be better off with literally any traditional A-level rather than the CTEC I think though - geography, music, English language, philosophy, anything really...might be worth asking your school if you can drop the EPQ (as it's rarely a factor in medicine admissions) and do an A-level in a year. Or check carefully at all medical schools to see if they accept a CTEC as a third subject.

Also note, Oxford medicine offers no specific long term benefits over any other medical school, as all medical schools are considered equal by the GMC and NHS (and as a result, specialty recruitment is blinded to your medical school to ensure there is no bias). Therefore there is no particular benefit in focusing on Oxford over any other medical school unless you present a very strong profile for their specific shortlisting criteria.
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Original post by hiddensmart
hey y'all I want to apply to Oxford for medicine but my GCSE and my alevel options are holding me back. don't judge me but I achieved three grade 6's two grade 5's two grade 4's two grade 3's and one grade 2. And I'm doing A-levels in biology and chemistry and CTEC Applied Science. And I achieved grade B in both chemistry and biology for my first mocks. If I get A*'s in a-levels and have a high bmat score would I still get an offer and I have mitigating circumstances as well and I'm a young carer too

Can I ask why Oxford in particular? It does not matter which medical school you attend as long as it is GMC accredited if you plan on working in the UK after graduation.
Original post by hiddensmart
I really don't have a particular reason it's just that I can't find other unis that accept btecs and have very low GCSE or no GCSE requirements . im so upset rn :frown:


What did you get for GCSE maths and english language?
Original post by hiddensmart
I checked the Oxford requirements and it said btec also I wasn't eligible to do any other a-levels

As they said they would consider it, then it's an option. I would definitely recommend checking every medical school though, as well as checking if there are any contextual criteria you would be considered under due to being a carer that would cause them to consider the BTEC.

I would also recommend looking at medicine with a foundation/gateway year courses as these are usually designed for those meeting specific contextual/widening participation criteria which being a carer may may you eligible for. These are still competitive but the formal requirements are often slightly wider and so may include BTECs as a consideration at a wider range of medical schools :smile:
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Original post by hiddensmart
hey y'all I want to apply to Oxford for medicine but my GCSE and my alevel options are holding me back. don't judge me but I achieved three grade 6's two grade 5's two grade 4's two grade 3's and one grade 2. And I'm doing A-levels in biology and chemistry and CTEC Applied Science. And I achieved grade B in both chemistry and biology for my first mocks. If I get A*'s in a-levels and have a high bmat score would I still get an offer and I have mitigating circumstances as well and I'm a young carer too

apply to univeristies that do contextual consideration, leeds do it its called access to Leeds, just email universities and ask if your circumstances lower the acedemic requirements needed.
also A* with the exception of some unis like oxford arent favoured over As
i dont see a reason why your circumstances wouldnt be considered but defo email them to double check, also dont put all your money on doing well in the BMAT consider the UCAT
Original post by hiddensmart
maths I got a 6 and English language I got a 4


As advised by @artful_lounger above, it would be best to focus on foundation or gateway to Medicine courses. Look at their contextual criteria and get in touch with the universities offering these courses directly explaining your situation.

I had a quick look on google and randomly clicked on this:
https://www.hyms.ac.uk/medicine/entry-requirements/entry-requirements-gateway
If you're eligible to apply here, then I think you would meet GCSE grade requirements here.

Make a list of the medical schools offering either 'Medicine with a foundation year' or 'Gateway to Medicine', then those that you would be eligible for and those that you meet grade requirements for. It'll be a lot easier to visualise what choices are available to you
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Original post by KA_P
As advised by @artful_lounger above, it would be best to focus on foundation or gateway to Medicine courses. Look at their contextual criteria and get in touch with the universities offering these courses directly explaining your situation.

I had a quick look on google and randomly clicked on this:
https://www.hyms.ac.uk/medicine/entry-requirements/entry-requirements-gateway
If you're eligible to apply here, then I think you would meet GCSE grade requirements here.

Make a list of the medical schools offering either 'Medicine with a foundation year' or 'Gateway to Medicine', then those that you would be eligible for and those that you meet grade requirements for. It'll be a lot easier to visualise what choices are available to you

PRSOM :smile:
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Original post by KA_P
As advised by @artful_lounger above, it would be best to focus on foundation or gateway to Medicine courses. Look at their contextual criteria and get in touch with the universities offering these courses directly explaining your situation.

I had a quick look on google and randomly clicked on this:
https://www.hyms.ac.uk/medicine/entry-requirements/entry-requirements-gateway
If you're eligible to apply here, then I think you would meet GCSE grade requirements here.

Make a list of the medical schools offering either 'Medicine with a foundation year' or 'Gateway to Medicine', then those that you would be eligible for and those that you meet grade requirements for. It'll be a lot easier to visualise what choices are available to you


Thank you so much does that mean I can't apply to Oxford anymore???
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Original post by bigplongus
apply to univeristies that do contextual consideration, leeds do it its called access to Leeds, just email universities and ask if your circumstances lower the acedemic requirements needed.
also A* with the exception of some unis like oxford arent favoured over As
i dont see a reason why your circumstances wouldnt be considered but defo email them to double check, also dont put all your money on doing well in the BMAT consider the UCAT


NOT TRUE, i got rejected for having A*A*A rather than A*A*A* for durham cs
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Original post by hiddensmart
Thank you so much does that mean I can't apply to Oxford anymore???


I can't give a concrete answer on that (it would be best to get in touch with them directly)

Once again, it really doesn't matter which medical school you study at in the UK - focus on what the course offers along with teaching style and other things like frequency of placement or other opportunities. It's a 5-6 year course and you need things that will keep you motivated and reasons that keep you rooted into staying on the route to a career in medicine.

If you're applying through UCAS, then you will have 4 choices in total to apply to medicine so it's best to research about it carefully before applying as you should want to apply strategically according to your stats to utilise your 4 choices fully
Original post by artful_lounger
PRSOM :smile:


PRSOM back at you :jumphug:
Original post by KA_P
PRSOM back at you :jumphug:


PRSOM back at both of you
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Original post by artful_lounger
PRSOM :smile:

do you think doing nuffield research help with medicine applications?
Original post by hiddensmart
do you think doing nuffield research help with medicine applications?


It may be useful depending on how you reflect on it in the interview, what skills do you think you will gain from it?
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Original post by zac777
NOT TRUE, i got rejected for having A*A*A rather than A*A*A* for durham cs


For medicine, only about 5 unis consider A levels as anything other than a minimum requirement, so in that way, it is different to many degrees
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Original post by hiddensmart
hey y'all I want to apply to Oxford for medicine but my GCSE and my alevel options are holding me back. don't judge me but I achieved three grade 6's two grade 5's two grade 4's two grade 3's and one grade 2. And I'm doing A-levels in biology and chemistry and CTEC Applied Science. And I achieved grade B in both chemistry and biology for my first mocks. If I get A*'s in a-levels and have a high bmat score would I still get an offer and I have mitigating circumstances as well and I'm a young carer too

You need to check if you meet widening participation flags (young carer counts at some med schools) as that would open up Foundation Year courses, who are more likely to accept a BTEC (and hence I assume a CTEC)
https://www.medschools.ac.uk/media/2951/entry-requirements-document-2023-entry.pdf

A few med schools will accept a BTEC Level 3 National Extended Diploma for standard entry but many need it in addition to 1 or 2 A levels. I have no idea if a CTEC would also be acceptable to them. Those who openly state it is acceptable are
Aston
BSMS (plus chem and bio A levels)
Bristol (want Distinctions in specific chemistry modules)
Exeter (plus chem and bio A levels)
Possibly Lancaster, but not accepted on its own
Leicester (plus chem and bio/science A levels)

Oxford requirements for an applicant taking BTEC qualifications would typically be:
· BTEC Level 3 Extended Diploma in Applied Science
· BTEC Level 3 Diploma in Applied Science plus 1 A-level
· BTEC Level 3 Extended Certificate or Foundation Diploma in Applied Science plus 2 A-levels (one of which must be in Chemistry, Biology, Physics or Mathematics)
They also accept applications from candidates with 2 A-levels in Chemistry, Biology, Physics or Mathematics, plus a BTEC Level 3 qualification in another subject.
Applicants will be required to achieve grades of D*DD or the equivalent.
Plymouth (but applicants required to sit the GAMSAT)
Southampton (plus chem and bio A levels)

Some of these will not accept your GCSE results, though, so I think you are basically down to Oxford, Exeter and Plymouth A100 unless you resit some GCSEs.

Alternatively, you could apply for extenuating circumstances to see if med schools would count them as sufficient to waive your GCSE results - but bear in mind most expect you to have declared any difficulties to the exam board at the time and they will make allowances in marking.
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Original post by hiddensmart
I don't think any uni wants me I guess I will become a housewife my dreams are ruined :frown:


A tad dramatic, but fair enough :smile:
Original post by hiddensmart
I don't think any uni wants me I guess I will become a housewife my dreams are ruined :frown:


Please don't lose hope, email the universities first. It can be overwhelming right now, but applying to medicine is something where you need to take things a step at a time, assessing all the options available to you and adapting at each step. Believe in yourself. See if you'd be eligible for any foundation year or gateway to medicine course first. If yes then great, if not then maybe look at resitting a few GCSEs as suggested above such as English language?

You won't know unless you give it a go
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