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russel group uni offer or degree apprenticeship at non-russel group uni

for context, I am 20 years old, I took my first gap year because I did not know what I wanted to study. Then my second year out to get some work experience in software development and to get onto a degree apprenticeship. I have grades A*AA in physics, math and Chemistry. I have offers for Computer science at good unis like Warwick and UOB( Birmingham). But I also have a degree apprenticeship offer in digital and technology solutions, and it's also a specialised role in IT Infrastructure (which is exactly what area I want to go in) , my salary during the apprenticeship would 20k-25k. Then after I graduate it would be around 40K. I'm stuck between the two because the university for the degree apprenticeship is not a Russel group , it is Manchester Met University. what would you do?

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Do the degree apprenticeship. It is a lot more difficult to get such an offer so you should take the opportunity.
If you don't mind missing out the university experience, someone mentioned you get one shot to do this whilst you are young.
In apprenticeships, the younger crowd are the other apprentices like you BUT you tend to be hanging out with a much older group, adults with families already in relationships and it has known to be vastly different from being in university where you get to explore your own identity slowly and mature at your own pace.
If you don't care go for the apprenticeship.
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I'm in a similar position, but my degree apprenticeship is for finance at a RG university. I'm just going to go by the grades I get.
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Original post by Huncho The First
Do the degree apprenticeship. It is a lot more difficult to get such an offer so you should take the opportunity.


thanks, I appreciate it.
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Original post by toxicgamage56
I'm in a similar position, but my degree apprenticeship is for finance at a RG university. I'm just going to go by the grades I get.


makes sense, good luck
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Original post by HA8210
for context, I am 20 years old, I took my first gap year because I did not know what I wanted to study. Then my second year out to get some work experience in software development and to get onto a degree apprenticeship. I have grades A*AA in physics, math and Chemistry. I have offers for Computer science at good unis like Warwick and UOB( Birmingham). But I also have a degree apprenticeship offer in digital and technology solutions, and it's also a specialised role in IT Infrastructure (which is exactly what area I want to go in) , my salary during the apprenticeship would 20k-25k. Then after I graduate it would be around 40K. I'm stuck between the two because the university for the degree apprenticeship is not a Russel group , it is Manchester Met University. what would you do?

It also depends on which company the degree apprenticeship is with. If its a known company, then future employers may focus on that more than the uni it was associated with anyway
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Original post by Marvel_fan
It also depends on which company the degree apprenticeship is with. If its a known company, then future employers may focus on that more than the uni it was associated with anyway


it's BT
Original post by HA8210
makes sense, good luck

Thanks, good luck to you too :smile:
I’m in the same position as you. I get the point of it being a really good opportunity, but at the same time you can always do internships during uni holidays, and at lots of different firms.
Original post by user8937264980
I’m in the same position as you. I get the point of it being a really good opportunity, but at the same time you can always do internships during uni holidays, and at lots of different firms.

To be honest, I would probably take my uni offer if I got the grades, but it's looking bleak right now. The apprenticeship is very high standard, but I worry the field is more limiting than that of my university degree choice. That's why I'm essentially letting the degree apprenticeship function as a backup.
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Original post by user8937264980
I’m in the same position as you. I get the point of it being a really good opportunity, but at the same time you can always do internships during uni holidays, and at lots of different firms.


they are extremely competitive, I think I'm starting to lean towards the degree apprenticeship.
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Original post by toxicgamage56
To be honest, I would probably take my uni offer if I got the grades, but it's looking bleak right now. The apprenticeship is very high standard, but I worry the field is more limiting than that of my university degree choice. That's why I'm essentially letting the degree apprenticeship function as a backup.


I'd spend my first two years learning about software development and the specialise in the last two years, so I'm not worried about it course being limiting. BT also do 9 month rotations to different teams, so I can't be that limiting
Original post by HA8210
I'd spend my first two years learning about software development and the specialise in the last two years, so I'm not worried about it course being limiting. BT also do 9 month rotations to different teams, so I can't be that limiting

Tbh a BT degree apprenticeship does sound very good. The only issue is how good your Warwick offer is, since that's many CS students' dream offer. I guess it's up to your discretion. You might find it more suitable to go into the degree apprenticeship since you've already had two gap years, so taking the degree apprenticeship would put you in the same position as many CS graduates. Degree apprenticeships are better than university if it's in the right specialisation for you, and allows you the career progression that you want.
Original post by HA8210
they are extremely competitive, I think I'm starting to lean towards the degree apprenticeship.

Yeah - would they be more competitive than degree apprenticeships? I think the degree apprenticeships I applied to were like 1 place per 50 applications.

Also I just realised you’re 20 and have done 2 gap years - if I were you I’d take the degree apprenticeship in that case. It might be better for you as a more mature person, and someone who would’ve gone into work next year anyway

Also, you can always do a masters at a better university (which BT may even help fund as you’ll probably stick with them for a bit after the apprenticeship) and once you get this employers would care more about where u did ur masters than bachelors
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Original post by user8937264980
Yeah - would they be more competitive than degree apprenticeships? I think the degree apprenticeships I applied to were like 1 place per 50 applications.

Also I just realised you’re 20 and have done 2 gap years - if I were you I’d take the degree apprenticeship in that case. It might be better for you as a more mature person, and someone who would’ve gone into work next year anyway

Also, you can always do a masters at a better university (which BT may even help fund as you’ll probably stick with them for a bit after the apprenticeship) and once you get this employers would care more about where u did ur masters than bachelors

I already got the BT offer, and I have my grades, so there's no competition lol but I get what you mean. Thanks for the advice ab the masters, I'll consider that too
Both are very good options and you can't go wrong either way. You should ask yourself questions like is the extra money going to be useful to you, are you okay potentially limiting yourself to a specific niche, would you really enjoy the university experience etc
Original post by HA8210
I already got the BT offer, and I have my grades, so there's no competition lol but I get what you mean. Thanks for the advice ab the masters, I'll consider that too

nah i meant are summer and holiday internships much more competitive than degree apprenticeships?
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Original post by user8937264980
nah i meant are summer and holiday internships much more competitive than degree apprenticeships?

Degree apprenticeship are more competitive, but what I was saying was I already have the offer, so summer internships are much more work based on that
Original post by HA8210
Degree apprenticeship are more competitive, but what I was saying was I already have the offer, so summer internships are much more work based on that

A good question to consider is whether you're ready to start working. I'm in year 13, so I'm used to having regular half-term or Easter/Christmas holidays. If you choose the degree apprenticeship, you'll suddenly find that you might have less than 30 days of holiday in an entire year. University, on the other hand, you get literal months off at a time, and even when it's term time, you can watch recorded lectures if you don't feel like attending in-person. I mean, you're 20, so you're probably more prepared to face the working world, but that might be something you want to keep in mind.

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