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Monteferro
Once again, you're being excessively modest - you are not a weirdo and there is no point in blaming yourself for things that don't merit an apology of any kind. Iluvatar, I can think of several things I should be doing but I believe that relationships/humans come first. It was not wrong of you to post your problems on this site, after all, things should not be kept bottled up inside!


I am a wierdo and proud of it :wink: ... but i shouldn't have started this thread, i'm just wasting everyones time.
trigger
:frown: you just cant get over this can you?


I wish i knew how to change the way i am, but i don't.
Iluvatar
I am a wierdo and proud of it :wink: ... but i shouldn't have started this thread, i'm just wasting everyones time.
But it's not a waste of time... People are social animals and so we all need support from other people from time to time. You shouldn't castigate yourself for doing something that should be done.
Ariel4
how do you know?


It will make me feel stupid, as i will be talking to someone who's only there because they are paid to be, and then that will make me think that i shouldn't even bother in the first place, as they don't give a damn about me or anything, and it will all spiral making it worse.
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Iluvatar
I wish i knew how to change the way i am, but i don't.

why do you have top change your fine how you are i dont want some tanned no brained idiot i just want you whatever happens
Monteferro
But it's not a waste of time... People are social animals and so we all need support from other people from time to time. You shouldn't castigate yourself for doing something that should be done.


Not all people are social animals... i don't like being social with people because of the way that everyone sees me. I feel like its better to be on my own.
I shouldn't be doing this.
ahh, tweet.
trigger
why do you have top change your fine how you are i dont want some tanned no brained idiot i just want you whatever happens


That isn't what i meant. I have to change how i see myself.
Reply 128
As other people have said, people come before anything else, which is why I'm back on here writing to you and trying and respond to your first post instead of doing other things. I don't feel obliged to, I want to.

I used to think the same as you in that it's a weakness to ask for help. I hated doing it. I used to think you should be able to cope with things on your own. However, circumstances around me changed, and I couldn't keep up. I don't want to go into here, because this isn't about me, but I eventually saw that asking for help is something that should be admired. It was so difficult to recognise that I needed support, because I couldn't see it myself. The reason I couldn't see it was because I was so wrapped up in what had actually happened, that I couldn't see the bigger picture, and how it was affecting everyone around me.

It takes an awful lot of guts to ask for help, especially if you're an independent, likes to help others type of person, which you appear to be.

I'm sorry that I haven't, nor anyone else on here seems to have been able to help that much. I'm not saying that you should go and get professional help, but what I am saying is sometimes you need an outsiders perspective. Don't close yourself off from people, I know from experience that it hinders rather than helps - even if you are a very private person.

Your first post says to me that you want to try and change your opinions of yourself. Now, you need to put the effort in, and if that doesn't work, then in my opinion, you need to have a chat with someone who knows a little more about this type of thing than any of us do. Nothing will change though without a lot of hard work on your part. It's got to come from you, and it'll be hard, but you've got to have the determination to get through it. Have faith in yourself and take care, x
Create
As other people have said, people come before anything else, which is why I'm back on here writing to you and trying and respond to your first post instead of doing other things. I don't feel obliged to, I want to.

I used to think the same as you in that it's a weakness to ask for help. I hated doing it. I used to think you should be able to cope with things on your own. However, circumstances around me changed, and I couldn't keep up. I don't want to go into here, because this isn't about me, but I eventually saw that asking for help is something that should be admired. It was so difficult to recognise that I needed support, because I couldn't see it myself. The reason I couldn't see it was because I was so wrapped up in what had actually happened, that I couldn't see the bigger picture, and how it was affecting everyone around me.

It takes an awful lot of guts to ask for help, especially if you're an independent, likes to help others type of person, which you appear to be.

I'm sorry that I haven't, nor anyone else on here seems to have been able to help that much. I'm not saying that you should go and get professional help, but what I am saying is sometimes you need an outsiders perspective. Don't close yourself off from people, I know from experience that it hinders rather than helps - even if you are a very private person.

Your first post says to me that you want to try and change your opinions of yourself. Now, you need to put the effort in, and if that doesn't work, then in my opinion, you need to have a chat with someone who knows a little more about this type of thing than any of us do. Nothing will change though without a lot of hard work on your part. It's got to come from you, and it'll be hard, but you've got to have the determination to get through it. Have faith in yourself and take care, x


Why though? Why would you want to help someone like me? Surely i don't deserve help if i'm not capable of sorting it out on my own.

I have to close myself off from people... i've learnt that... opening up to most people just leads to even more pain...

I want to change, thats why i posted at all. But i don't think talking to a professional will help me... i'm too stubborn for that really, and i'd be too tempted to try to wind them up (i've got a whole list of ways to wind up therapists) to take it all seriously.
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Iluvatar
Why though? Why would you want to help someone like me? Surely i don't deserve help if i'm not capable of sorting it out on my own.

I have to close myself off from people... i've learnt that... opening up to most people just leads to even more pain...

I want to change, thats why i posted at all. But i don't think talking to a professional will help me... i'm too stubborn for that really, and i'd be too tempted to try to wind them up (i've got a whole list of ways to wind up therapists) to take it all seriously.


No point going to a threapist if you lie to them. What is it exactly you don't like about yourself (objectively, don't just say 'i'm a crap person etc etc')? If you want to change and feel there are lots of areas that need attention then you're best to focus at one thing at a time. What do you dislike most?
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Iluvatar
Why though? Why would you want to help someone like me? Surely i don't deserve help if i'm not capable of sorting it out on my own.

I have to close myself off from people... i've learnt that... opening up to most people just leads to even more pain...

I want to change, thats why i posted at all. But i don't think talking to a professional will help me... i'm too stubborn for that really, and i'd be too tempted to try to wind them up (i've got a whole list of ways to wind up therapists) to take it all seriously.


you dont have to close yourself of from people, you just have to find the right person to open up to, thats all.
ok, maybe dont see a professional, would be funny to wind them up tho! :biggrin:
Reply 132
Iluvatar
Why though? Why would you want to help someone like me? Surely i don't deserve help if i'm not capable of sorting it out on my own.

Everyone needs help now and again. Sounds like you're really not coping, how about getting your friends to write down what they love about you and read it when you're feeling down?
I've got several letters from my best friend, we make a point of writing to each other every now and then just to boost each other as we both have confidence problems - she said my letters really helped her out of a serious period of bulimia and I know hers really help me.
Also, just sorting things out to look forward to, just for you, can make you feel like you're worth something more and force you to look after yourself.
Hope this helps, :redface:
Iluvatar
How do you deal with problems in your own self image?


I don't.
Reply 134
The mind sure is a odd place. Imagine this, you've always put yourself down, you hate the way your face and body look.
I've always thought that, I always thought I'd never have a gf, usual male angst stuff.
My depression did nothing but stop me from enjoying life.
A few weeks ago I had a moment of clarity:
Im abit overweight, so ive joined the gym, I was stuck in a dead end job due to crap grades and an overbearing, alcoholic father who held me back, so now im moving out,have found a part time job I enjoy and ive gone back to college.
I stayed at home being depressed and never went out, so now ive got back in touch with mates and actually have a social life.(Haveing just turned 20, I deeply regret not realising this a few years ago) :frown:
A girl where my friend works actually fancys me, and shes nice, so I guess I wasnt so ugly after all......
See? Its funny how a person can change their quality of life just by seeing things in a better light, At least now I will look back and say ''I tried, and thats all that matters''. :rock:
Reply 135
I must say, I think it's better to have a self image problem than be egotistical. I know this person (who's name or relation I will not disclose for reasons of heart felt concern, right!) who is so self absorbed that all she does is talk about herself, look at herself in the mirror, and try to show off for everyone. She sits around saying that all these people are ugly, and never looks at herself. I understand it's nice to have a good self image but there are limits. Everyone thinks something of themselves is not perfect or up to speed, and that is normal and HEALTHY.
puppy
No point going to a threapist if you lie to them. What is it exactly you don't like about yourself (objectively, don't just say 'i'm a crap person etc etc')? If you want to change and feel there are lots of areas that need attention then you're best to focus at one thing at a time. What do you dislike most?


Everything, to be perfectly honest. There isn't any specific thing i can name which i don't like, its just everything i am.
Ariel4
you dont have to close yourself of from people, you just have to find the right person to open up to, thats all.
ok, maybe dont see a professional, would be funny to wind them up tho! :biggrin:


I know that... and i can be open with trigger, i know that...

Yeah, its very funny actually.
skevvybritt
Everyone needs help now and again. Sounds like you're really not coping, how about getting your friends to write down what they love about you and read it when you're feeling down?
I've got several letters from my best friend, we make a point of writing to each other every now and then just to boost each other as we both have confidence problems - she said my letters really helped her out of a serious period of bulimia and I know hers really help me.
Also, just sorting things out to look forward to, just for you, can make you feel like you're worth something more and force you to look after yourself.
Hope this helps, :redface:


... I don't think that would help, even if i had anyone apart from trigger who would do that for me... But... if i did that, i'd just feel worse about myself, because i'd think that it was wrong, i'm not like what they say, or that they were trying to humour me, or lots of things really.
lessthanthree
well, if you're a horrible person, at least you realise and want to change [not that I think you're horrible]

but seriously, you need to be realistic about what you want to change about yourself. To a degree, you can alter how you look, and how you act, but not how you feel about yourself until you can pinpoint an issue that is upsetting you, and that you can tackle.


But there isn't one... its just everything about myself that i hate...

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