Question for the girls?

Seriously, what is your problem? It's a nice gesture - most girls would be flattered, they wouldn't just think "kerching, free drink". The majority would at least give the guy a chance. From this post, I'm guessing you're also the kind of guy who thinks men should never pay on the first date or hold the door open for women

"You must know that isn't confidant, dominant behaviour that will get him girls".
1) I think it's confidant - I guess it's like anything, depends on the way you do it. Quietly mumble about a drink and she might not get what you're asking, smile and chat to her over a drink is confidant and a good way to get to know someone.
2) Why should someone try and appear "dominant" to - as you so charmingly put it - "get girls". Newsflash: acting arrogant and cocky and as though the girl is "lucky to be talking to him" is a major turn-off for a lot of girls.

Telling a girl she's beautiful makes a guy a "wimpy suck up"? She should think herself lucky because you've bothered to speak to her? Guys should act "dominant" when talking to girls?.... Seriously - a lot of girls would disagree with you. Everyone likes to be complimented and treated with respect, what you've said sounds like a load of nonsense to be honest.

Haha, the first post was some good advice. Just a shame I don't smoke, and I don't have any intention of smoking either.

What's with the "have you met ted"?

Its a reference to how i met your mother the tv show. I dont smoke much either but i still carry a lighter most of the time, partly because i like fire, partly because i do sometimes smoke socially and partly because it lets you be the white knight when a girl asks for a light. You dont have to smoke to go to the smoking area, i often just go there for fresh air. Another bit of advice id give would be that you should keep in mind clubs vary a lot. Student clubs are much better for just hooking up on the dance floor especially in freshers you can rack up a pretty high body count. Another thing to keep in mind is to go with a group as its fine to go off sharking by yourself but you need an anchor or you become that guy who just creeps on girls all night. The thing about smiling is really key, last time i went out i was really just going out with mates but i caught a girl looking and gave her a smile and a wink, when the nught was dying down i bumped into her again and with no real conversation got right into it. Later found out her name was Kayleigh or sumthink that rhymes with that. I also find it helps start off the night if you pull, or at least get a number at predrinks as then you have the confidence to approach girls later in the night

If you just want to pull, go and dance with someone who looks very drunk. Don't try grinding on people though, it's just irritating. But you're not going to find "The One" in a nightclub. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of lovely people who go clubbing, but it doesn't show off the best side of their personalities when the music's so loud you can't actually talk to them.

Haha, I did.

I don't think men "should" pay on dates. I do it, but only because I know my girlfriend doesn't demand or expect it. I've never really got the door thing, I hold them open for anyone if that's coming.

Why should he have to buy you a drink to "get a chance"? Why not give him a chance without needing a gift? Give him a chance because he might be nice, kind, funny, etc.

1. Buying the girl a drink is an unconfident act in itself, that's the point.

2. It's a delicate act to get right, but seeing as he's nervous, he's unlikely to be overly arrogant, he's more likely to not act confident enough.

I'd never treat a woman disrespectfully. I'm not expecting anyone to buy me a drink, I'm treating women equally. I'm happy to treat a lady, buy my girlfriend flowers, all that stuff, but buy a stranger a drink so she'll talk to me. This is not progression, this is an impediment to the vital goals of feminism.

just use the d.e.n.n.i.s system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZuOKUrwoys

your welcome.

"Ask if you can buy them a drink"? Come on, you must know that isn't confident, dominant behaviour that will get him girls. Oh please pretty girl, let me have the honour of buying you a drink so you will repay me with attention. I know you must love getting free drinks, I would, but it's pretty sneaky really.

Never act like you are lower than a girl. You aren't privileged to have her attention, you aren't a wimpy suck up like those other guys who buy her drinks and tell her how beautiful she is. You are the cool, confident guy, who she is lucky to be talking to because you're funny and good company.

Buying girls drinks was outdated the moment women could get decent careers.

How is the best way to try and chat up a girl on a night out? Is it to start dancing? Or somehow try a simple conversation? Or just be nice and ask if they would like a drink? My confidence isn't the best, any advice would be welcome (except for any sarcastic answers)

Its a reference to how i met your mother the tv show. I dont smoke much either but i still carry a lighter most of the time, partly because i like fire ...

Mate, I read a few of your posts, and you sound like the kinda guy who would be a proper entertainer on a night out!

OP, listen to this dude, he knows what he's talking about. Here's what I've found:

1. You can hardly hear yourself think in a club, so striking up a conversation is not straight forward. So its key to keep what you say short, sweet and easy to understand - no complicated words, especially given most have had a drink or two!

2. Some chat up lines do work but depends on the girl - funny/cheesy ones can make the girl laugh and are a nice ice breaker; slightly-dirty/funny ones are a bit risky but sometimes can pay off; finally sweet/romantic ones have their time and place depending on the type of girl.

3. You need to stay quite confident, relaxed and not over-think or complicate things. The girls are there to have fun, possibly meet someone. So you just need to show that you're a charming guy, who's interesting to chat to - share some funny or exciting stories - and compliment her, not over the top, but enough to show that you're interested. Finally and most importantly, don't rush into it. Stay casual - if you try to go for body contact, grinding etc, you are likely to be heading for the exit! And like another girl said, don't just move onto the next girl if you get knocked back, because people can usually notice a guy who's working his way around a club!

Anywho, thats my input! Hope it's of some use to someone!