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Refusing to make contact with the trolls/body fascists here but
LOL guys saying skinny women are 'boner kills', just like you'd say it if you thought they were too fat. Much as I like dat ass, not every girl is going to do squats or be into that kinda thing.
Pretty sure they know what some men find attractive (skinny busty conventional ideal), the problem is they feel that they're outside this. And while some some others are content with being slim and are unaffected by snide remarks like they're 'too skinny to be hot', there are other women who resent their lack of curves even when it's their body's natural shape, and go on to hate themselves
yep there are girls who think they're too skinny and go on to develop BDD (body dysmophic disorder), nice job
Just like there are guys out there who hate being called 'fat bastard' or 'skinny bitch', girls get the same issue
Has it occurred to you that most people aim for higher in life than to give an internet warrior a boner anyway, and have more important things to do like idk, paying the bills?
LOL guys saying skinny women are 'boner kills', just like you'd say it if you thought they were too fat. Much as I like dat ass, not every girl is going to do squats or be into that kinda thing.
Pretty sure they know what some men find attractive (skinny busty conventional ideal), the problem is they feel that they're outside this. And while some some others are content with being slim and are unaffected by snide remarks like they're 'too skinny to be hot', there are other women who resent their lack of curves even when it's their body's natural shape, and go on to hate themselves
yep there are girls who think they're too skinny and go on to develop BDD (body dysmophic disorder), nice job
Just like there are guys out there who hate being called 'fat bastard' or 'skinny bitch', girls get the same issue
Has it occurred to you that most people aim for higher in life than to give an internet warrior a boner anyway, and have more important things to do like idk, paying the bills?
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Alright dude, in the same vein I won't make contact with you. But, I knew something was wrong with you when you used the term "body fascists" and looking at your previous threads just confirms my suspicions about the type of man you are. I'm not going to get onto you but I'll just say good luck to you, you need it.
Original post by Sisu
Alright dude, in the same vein I won't make contact with you. But, I knew something was wrong with you when you used the term "body fascists" and looking at your previous threads just confirms my suspicions about the type of man you are. I'm not going to get onto you but I'll just say good luck to you, you need it.
Hey
And what type of man would that be? I'm assuming you're going to say one with no balls? White knight? Nice guy? Whipped?
Why would you quote me? I thought I was a body fascists/troll, it speaks volumes about your insecurity just like it did about Jessay or whatever her username is constantly quoting 2ndclass and yet calling him a troll.
I don't really think I need to spell out what type of man, your previous threads already show you know. And me calling you any of those things would just result in you calling me a stereotypical chauvinistic douchebag.
I don't really think I need to spell out what type of man, your previous threads already show you know. And me calling you any of those things would just result in you calling me a stereotypical chauvinistic douchebag.
Original post by 2ndClass
I really don't like that tbh. Do you want to know what a good ass is seeing as you guys think Kim K is bar standard.
Go to post 17
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2227015
Notice the thigh,waist then ass ratio.
Go to post 17
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2227015
Notice the thigh,waist then ass ratio.
Tbh those bums look good in photos but IRL they'd probably be quite floppy and untoned. I'd rather have a slightly smaller but firm bum...looks better in my opinion. It's already a nightmare getting clothes to fit let alone if I had a giant ass to contend with!
I don't know any girls with bums as big as the girls in that pic. I certainly don't think guys are holding out for a girl who looks like that.
As I said before. You seem to be an ass man. You like em big. Not everyone shares this opinion.
Also out of interest that pic of the "bad" bum i posted was linked to an old TSR thread and most of the comments were that it was fine, even good.
Original post by Sisu
Why would you quote me? I thought I was a body fascists/troll, it speaks volumes about your insecurity just like it did about Jessay or whatever her username is constantly quoting 2ndclass and yet calling him a troll.
I don't really think I need to spell out what type of man, your previous threads already show you know. And me calling you any of those things would just result in you calling me a stereotypical chauvinistic douchebag.
I don't really think I need to spell out what type of man, your previous threads already show you know. And me calling you any of those things would just result in you calling me a stereotypical chauvinistic douchebag.
OK, I'm insecure? That's fine, you would probably be right. Care to spell it out? I'm genuinely interested. I'm on a voyage of self-improvement
Imo if you're going to completely disqualify a woman for not having the body you desire then that'd be a bit chauvinistic or at least shallow. Same if a woman did it for a man.
To be honest, I also like big butts and I cannot lie :P What led me to call you out as a body fascist was the whole waist-ass-thigh ratio thing. Yes it's good to have a standard, yes we're biologically inclined towards the hourglass ratio, yes having those who don't perfectly reach it obsess over it is bound to cause some body image problems.
No seriously, tell me what you think. I'd like to know. You might as well quote, I disagree with your views on body expectations but you don't seem like a douche.
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Original post by LavenderBlueSky88
Tbh those bums look good in photos but IRL they'd probably be quite floppy and untoned. I'd rather have a slightly smaller but firm bum...looks better in my opinion. It's already a nightmare getting clothes to fit let alone if I had a giant ass to contend with!
I don't know any girls with bums as big as the girls in that pic. I certainly don't think guys are holding out for a girl who looks like that.
As I said before. You seem to be an ass man. You like em big. Not everyone shares this opinion.
Also out of interest that pic of the "bad" bum i posted was linked to an old TSR thread and most of the comments were that it was fine, even good.
I don't know any girls with bums as big as the girls in that pic. I certainly don't think guys are holding out for a girl who looks like that.
As I said before. You seem to be an ass man. You like em big. Not everyone shares this opinion.
Also out of interest that pic of the "bad" bum i posted was linked to an old TSR thread and most of the comments were that it was fine, even good.
Well not every girl is going to have an ass like that. But nevertheless, if a girl has a small ass like that pic and a small breasts to boot, it's not really the greatest thing in the world. Some guys like petite women and that's also fine, but the majority of men like "real women" as the whole purpose of the thread. If you offered most men a choice out of both, I think it'd be safe to say the vast majority of them would choose the pic I posted.
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Original post by Sisu
Why would you quote me? I thought I was a body fascists/troll, it speaks volumes about your insecurity just like it did about Jessay or whatever her username is constantly quoting 2ndclass and yet calling him a troll.
I don't really think I need to spell out what type of man, your previous threads already show you know. And me calling you any of those things would just result in you calling me a stereotypical chauvinistic douchebag.
I don't really think I need to spell out what type of man, your previous threads already show you know. And me calling you any of those things would just result in you calling me a stereotypical chauvinistic douchebag.
Wow I just noticed too.
Original post by 2ndClass
Wow I just noticed too.
Go on, elaborate dude.
You can be honest, I'm already pretty critical of myself on a bad day, it's nothing new.
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Original post by Riku
Go on, elaborate dude.
I think you're pretty effeminate, you're definitely BETA , I think your girlfriend wears the trousers in the relationship that why she told you to wear skinny jeans. You have low T so that's your masculinity out of the window. And yes you did try to white knight with your little swipe at me there. Addressing individuals like that is like arguing with guys like these in the video below
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Original post by 2ndClass
Well not every girl is going to have an ass like that but no guy likes a muscular ass, which alot of girls end up with when they squat like there's no tomorrow. We actually like them soft and squishy with a round shape to them. But nevertheless, if a girl has a small ass like that pic and a small breasts to boot, it's not really the greatest thing in the world. Some guys like petite women and that's also fine, but the majority of men like "real women" as the whole purpose of the thread. If you offered most men a choice out of both, I think it'd be safe to say the vast majority of the would choose the pic I posted.
Haha I just showed my boyfriend the pic of the big booty girls. His first reaction was "jesus" (probably at the fact id just randomly linked him to a still from a porno). Then he said that they looked "a bit hefty". I don't agree but he likes skinny women, I go to the gym and squat and he always says I shouldn't because my legs are getting bigger.
Look. Guys like allsorts. No offence but im sure you're not in the position to be particularly picky when it comes to women. I very much doubt your future wife is gonna look like those girls. I also hope she never finds out that you have such strict preferences for female shape. It is possible to find people attractive on more than a physical level. I used to say id never date anyone under 6 foot for gods sake! Yet both my boyfriends have been under that.
If a girl has small boobs and bum theres nothing she can do, if she squats it's too "muscular", if she gets a boob job she's fake. At the end of the day you have your preferences and so does every other man. I'd never say all girls like the same guys as me. It's just preposterous.
Original post by 2ndClass
I think you're pretty effeminate, you're definitely BETA , I think your girlfriend wears the trousers in the relationship that why she told you to wear skinny jeans. You have low T so that's your masculinity out of the window. And yes you did try to white knight with your little swipe at me there. Addressing individuals like that is like arguing with guys like these in the video below
http://i55.tinypic.com/vrvexc.gif
Exactly what I wanted to say. Perfect explanation. Can't wear skinny jeans cause my nuts don't fit.
I bet you someone is going to start calling you insecure about your masculinity and that you're feeling threatened or some ****.
Original post by LavenderBlueSky88
Haha I just showed my boyfriend the pic of the big booty girls. His first reaction was "jesus" (probably at the fact id just randomly linked him to a still from a porno). Then he said that they looked "a bit hefty". I don't agree but he likes skinny women, I go to the gym and squat and he always says I shouldn't because my legs are getting bigger.
Look. Guys like allsorts. No offence but im sure you're not in the position to be particularly picky when it comes to women. I very much doubt your future wife is gonna look like those girls. I also hope she never finds out that you have such strict preferences for female shape. It is possible to find people attractive on more than a physical level. I used to say id never date anyone under 6 foot for gods sake! Yet both my boyfriends have been under that.
If a girl has small boobs and bum theres nothing she can do, if she squats it's too "muscular", if she gets a boob job she's fake. At the end of the day you have your preferences and so does every other man. I'd never say all girls like the same guys as me. It's just preposterous.
Look. Guys like allsorts. No offence but im sure you're not in the position to be particularly picky when it comes to women. I very much doubt your future wife is gonna look like those girls. I also hope she never finds out that you have such strict preferences for female shape. It is possible to find people attractive on more than a physical level. I used to say id never date anyone under 6 foot for gods sake! Yet both my boyfriends have been under that.
If a girl has small boobs and bum theres nothing she can do, if she squats it's too "muscular", if she gets a boob job she's fake. At the end of the day you have your preferences and so does every other man. I'd never say all girls like the same guys as me. It's just preposterous.
Well I don't know, if you follow that thread and the amount of pos rep I got for that pic, I think it's pretty telling tbh. But if you have a boyfriend why are you even concerned with what I find attractive? And I told you the same thing about your legs a couple of weeks ago and then you turned around and said guys like muscular legs........
You seriously need to stop contradicting me when it comes to what is and isn't attractive about women to men. Guys DON'T like all sorts, there's a reason why there are lads mags, porn and glamour models cater to one description
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Original post by Sisu
http://i55.tinypic.com/vrvexc.gif
Exactly what I wanted to say. Perfect explanation. Can't wear skinny jeans cause my nuts don't fit.
I bet you someone is going to start calling you insecure about your masculinity and that you're feeling threatened or some ****.
I know right? I don't understand why he had to take side shots at me for no reason just to curry favour with those girls. They don't even want that.
Original post by OneDayDoctor
People constantly post on the internet talking about real women who are size 12 and above. Does this mean that, at size 8, I don't exist or something? It seems so odd that people go out to promote themselves as being a certain size so should be accepted for who they are, yet at the same time they slate people smaller than them.
Why can't people realise that the size of clothing you wear is also dependent on your body shape and height? It's like it's ok to wear larger sizes (though not necessarily be fat, some people are just tall) but not smaller ones. It seems like telling someone they are overweight is signing your own death warrant, but it's perfectly ok to say someone is thin or skinny in a malicious way.
I'll try to find an example, but I see it all the time on facebook when people comment on images posted by fashion pages saying that the girl (usually a blogger who looks perfectly healthy) is too thin, looks ill and has no curves and no man will ever want her. It's such an awful thing to say. I'll look for an example but comments like that are usually taken down pretty quickly, however they appear a lot.
Any other people out there in TSR world who are fed up of being told they don't exist?[/
if you're healthy that all which matters and health can show if your a 14 or a 8.. but some women who aren't happy with their weight (and more often than not are an unhealthy weight) find it easier to be critical and free their hate on other women than address their own issues.
Original post by Sisu
Why would you quote me? I thought I was a body fascists/troll, it speaks volumes about your insecurity just like it did about Jessay or whatever her username is constantly quoting 2ndclass and yet calling him a troll.
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I'm repeatedly called up on this. And yet my story remains the same: I do not believe myself to be insecure. The comments 2ndclass or whatever gives me are completely blind, he doesn't know what I look like. For all you guys know, I may be fat and just on this thread for jokes. I'm calling YOU up on this because in a debate, calling someone insecure really does nothing for the argument. I was trying to make a point to him, which was the reason I kept quoting him. If I was really that insecure, I'd probably have stopped when he initially made a comment about how he'd find me unattractive, and never come back in order to protect my own self-security.
People quote you in order to make a point, and to let you know their thoughts. It's a fairly void way of debating to make a personal comment about someone, and when they debate back, immediately say it's because they're insecure.
People are quoting you and 2ndclass because we see something we don't like in what you are saying. Not necessarily because they're offended. Instead of throwing 'DON'T TAKE IT SO PERSONALLY U R SO INSECUUUUUURE' comments around and making comments about whether or not you think a guy is masculine/effeminate (as you did the other poster), or whether you think a girl you've never seen is attractive (like with many of the posters on here, particularly myself), try and debate against our arguments. I bet neither of you can really make a valid point against some of what has been said without reverting to saying we're just insecure, or making a personal comment about what you predict we are like as people.
Original post by 2ndClass
Well I don't know, if you follow that thread and the amount of pos rep I got for that pic, I think it's pretty telling tbh. But if you have a boyfriend why are you even concerned with what I find attractive? And I told you the same thing about your legs a couple of weeks ago and then you turned around and said guys like muscular legs........
You seriously need to stop contradicting me when it comes to what is and isn't attractive about women to men. Guys DON'T like all sorts, there's a reason why there are lads mags, porn and glamour models cater to one description
You seriously need to stop contradicting me when it comes to what is and isn't attractive about women to men. Guys DON'T like all sorts, there's a reason why there are lads mags, porn and glamour models cater to one description
If I remember correctly you were making out all girls that squat have grotesque she-hulk legs. To which I said they don't. My legs are no bigger than those girls in the ass pic but they were gross chicken legs before. My boyfriend is an anomaly, I've stated that on here before. He likes very thin girls. He's not the only guy I've been with though that's liked a slimmer more athletic figure.
What men find attractive in terms of erotic material is always going to be girls with extremes of sexual characteristics. Loads of guys jack to girls in porn with massive tits but it doesn't mean they only go for girls with massive tits in real life. Just like a girl might have fantasies about a massive ripped guy, it doesn't limit her preferences to this.
I'm not bothered by what you think about MY figure it's just I object to you generalising and making remarks that are damaging to people's self esteem (seeing as this is a thread about girls feeling bad for not fitting the 'real woman' ideal). It's like me going onto the 'why does everyone hate short guys' thread and saying 'actually you know what, we do hate you. People will tell you it's okay but they're just being nice. No girl is gonna go for you over a tall guy'.
Oh and just to add. There is a vast range of female body types in porn. From BBW to barely legal teen stuff. It's clear if porn has to cater for this diversity that men DO like all sorts!
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Original post by 2ndClass
I think you're pretty effeminate, you're definitely BETA , I think your girlfriend wears the trousers in the relationship that why she told you to wear skinny jeans. You have low T so that's your masculinity out of the window. And yes you did try to white knight with your little swipe at me there. Addressing individuals like that is like arguing with guys like these in the video below
Original post by Sisu
http://i55.tinypic.com/vrvexc.gif
Exactly what I wanted to say. Perfect explanation. Can't wear skinny jeans cause my nuts don't fit.
I bet you someone is going to start calling you insecure about your masculinity and that you're feeling threatened or some ****.
OK guys, two against one here, that's suggesting insecurity to me too.
I'm not going to pretend I'm not insecure by being overwhelmed in number, and nor would you.
You've cherry--picked your choice of threads I made but anyway:
i) Yep I'm effeminate. I'm emotional. I'm a whiny 'bitch', I guess. (indirect misogyny ftl) Always have been. You have to know? My dad may or may not have been whipped, and there may or may not have been some cases of domestic. So sexuality and the masculinity debate is something pretty big and meaningful for me. Standard divorce case it was like 5 years ago maaaan blablabla
ii) BETA...ok, fair enough, if you say so
Do I have to list faults? OK: I think I'm fat/not lean enough (150 pounds-ish), I'm disorganised, I have crap time management (hence why I'm debating at half 12 rather than going to sleep), I'm impulsive, reckless, I comfort-eat, I need approval, I probably fish for compliments, I'm a whiny ****, a drama queen, with low frustration tolerance and I'm a mummy's boy. I pander to my mum because she had clinical depression and as the sole remaining child in the house I feel a sense of responsibility towards helping her get by. I have obsessive-compulsive tendencies. Pretty bad social anxiety. I am currently in a mildly depressed state where most of my emotions are shut down and I'm not entirely sure of what emotional impact words I place in a screen do.
Oh and I'm too open. I open myself up to complete strangers and give away compromising information, as I am now.
By most standards you cannot get much more Beta than that. And yet I still believe in myself and work to overcome these things, and most people don't agree that I am quite THIS bad.
So say it.
I've been pretty aware of these faults and been trying to change them for well, pretty much my entire teenage and young adult life.
iii) I didn't actually wear the skinny jeans in the end, or buy them. I was open to the idea of it, if it turned out it was choking my balls you can be sure to say hell to the no. I like my jeans now so I kept them.
iv) I may or may not have low T. I do however have an anxiety disorder which will incline me at times towards distorted thinking and I have to fight against with CBT. Not the most manly of things, is it? What a loser
v) Not sure what little swipe. I have a girlfriend (you're going to wonder how, aren't you?).
I won't waste energy on getting overly emotional in debate online, yet unfortunately I am crap at being purely logical. You may want to have a look at my thread on insecurities.
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Original post by LavenderBlueSky88
If I remember correctly you were making out all girls that squat have grotesque she-hulk legs. To which I said they don't. My legs are no bigger than those girls in the ass pic but they were gross chicken legs before. My boyfriend is an anomaly, I've stated that on here before. He likes very thin girls. He's not the only guy I've been with though that's liked a slimmer more athletic figure.
What men find attractive in terms of erotic material is always going to be girls with extremes of sexual characteristics. Loads of guys jack to girls in porn with massive tits but it doesn't mean they only go for girls with massive tits in real life. Just like a girl might have fantasies about a massive ripped guy, it doesn't limit her preferences to this.
I'm not bothered by what you think about MY figure it's just I object to you generalising and making remarks that are damaging to people's self esteem (seeing as this is a thread about girls feeling bad for not fitting the 'real woman' ideal). It's like me going onto the 'why does everyone hate short guys' thread and saying 'actually you know what, we do hate you. People will tell you it's okay but they're just being nice. No girl is gonna go for you over a tall guy'.
What men find attractive in terms of erotic material is always going to be girls with extremes of sexual characteristics. Loads of guys jack to girls in porn with massive tits but it doesn't mean they only go for girls with massive tits in real life. Just like a girl might have fantasies about a massive ripped guy, it doesn't limit her preferences to this.
I'm not bothered by what you think about MY figure it's just I object to you generalising and making remarks that are damaging to people's self esteem (seeing as this is a thread about girls feeling bad for not fitting the 'real woman' ideal). It's like me going onto the 'why does everyone hate short guys' thread and saying 'actually you know what, we do hate you. People will tell you it's okay but they're just being nice. No girl is gonna go for you over a tall guy'.
This is getting stupid now, I think Sisu made it abundantly clear when he said you'll never understand what men find attractive. But you as a woman can apparently tell me as a man what I should and shouldn't find attractive in women.
And I love that anomaly reference, it just reinforces my point. The rest is just nonsense about absolutes that I can't bothered with.
Stop complaining - you know very well that the "real women have curves" thing is just to make slightly curvy but insecure women feel better, and make sure they don't get all depressed about being "fat". It's a consolation, not a statement of fact.
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