Still unemployed after nearly a year graduating!!

I don't have a degree, but I've completed a grad scheme and am now in a graduate level job, **** essential criteria, if you limit urself or just hope to get jobs handed to you, you wont get anywhere.

Start at the bottom if need be, volunteer, whatever it takes to get on the ladder, having a degree is a great achievement but its not a certificate of entitlement to a job, especially a high paid one, not when you dont have relevant experience, afterall they'd probably have to pay to train you as well because you lack the practical skills.

I'm not trying to slag you off btw, I just hate how so many people have an overgrown sense of self worth/entitlement.

Unless you can prove you can do the job and are right for it/sell yourself well, why should any employer give you a chance? because of a degree? piss.. theres several other applicants with the exact same qualifications,

what makes you different and better, think about that, and if you cant think of anything then work on it, and then if youve tried all you can and still cant get anything (rather than just applying and hoping) then you can complain.

Reply 82

LukeM90

Original post by Pariah

i'm changing career plan in my 40s. just because you FEEL stuck doesn't mean you ARE stuck, but a lot of people seem to struggle with this

good for you!, tbh life is long enough and has enough opportunities to "change your path" most people just probably dont want to go back to school/college/uni etc.

If it came to it that I couldnt get a job in my field, I'd just find a way of transfering my skills into somthing else, because you gota do what you gota do to get on with things,

its hard but thats life.

out of interest what kinda career path are you moving into?

Reply 83

Pariah

15

Out of law and in to conservation (hopefully)

Reply 84

Hanvyj

Original post by Uni=RipOff

Hello all, time for a rant :angry:

!! lol

Is there anyone else who finished uni in 2012 and is still looking for work? Or am I the only one??

I graduated in Environmental Health, and am aware only about 8 unis do that couse in the UK! So you would think the prospect of getting a job is high!

I have sort of given up in that field and looking at any job now (not minimum wage, call me arrogant but I aint working for min wage after spending 4 years at uni - then being stuck there for the rest of my life!)

Am not restricting myself, am happy to move anywhere in the world as long as the pay can support me.

I offically finished in May 2012, so yeah its nearly a year and am 25 soon too! :frown:

As my name says - uni is a rip off - they have even increased the fees to £9k (total joke) yet you cant get job. Why? Because we dont have experience.

Anyone in this boat feels ripped off?

People I went school with are far better off by not going college or uni!

Darn thing now is I cant even do an apprentaship!

Rant over (or commerical :P)

You are refusing jobs.

In this market you can't just turn down jobs, what field are you looking in "Environmental Health" for employment?

You have to look at this objectively. Assuming there isn't much Environmental Health hiring going on, you have an obscure degree that isn't really transferable to many occupations. You don't have any experience in any workplace. Why would anyone hire you above minimum wage?

When I left uni I jumped into a job that wasn't much above minimum wage, and you know what? That year of experience got me onto a graduate scheme. I proved I could work, had examples of me DOING things and good references. I applied to ONE grad scheme (I had applied to 100s in my final year of uni) and got the place. All because I took a near-minimum wage job for a year.

My wife left Uni a few years ago. She got a minimum wage job! 4 hour a week part time contract. Bugger all.

Now? She got head-hunted for assistant manager at a store.

You're making yourself unemployed.

Reply 85

techno-thriller

14

you are just one case

Reply 86

Hanvyj

Well, she worked her way from 4 hours a week to 8 hours a week as sales assistent then got 24 hours as senior sales & card specialist. She made cards revenue something like 30% of the stores profit and beat last years targets by miles.

A few months into that position the store's lease ran out and, even though it was doing really well (best in region) the owners decided not to renew them so the shop had 2 weeks notice to close.

She worked her ass off during the closing down mess and pretty much took over the current assistant managers job (he didn't cope well). The manager and area manager obviously noticed.

When the store closed she traveled to the only other senior sales position in the south, which was a 2 hour commute each way and £6300 a year train fare (London *rolleyes*, I worked it out as 39% of her income!) to stay in the company.

A month in, a position came up for assistant manager in a nearby store, the area manager told her she was applying for it, he interviewed her personally (not common) and she got it a few days later. The store had failed it's audit before she turned up, two weeks later and it's passed with the top grade... Again, getting noticed as competent, building relationships with the upper management. It all adds up.

So yeah, if you put the effort in and are willing to have the right attitude you can get a long way. She's only worked there for 18 months, and never in retail before.

Reply 87

OP

Original post by Pariah

in what world does working 40hrs a week at tesco not leave you at least two or three hours a day to apply for other jobs?

Go and try it and come back and tell me. Have you not read the latest stories? Some grads end working in Tescos or other small places and 7years later are in the same role due to lack of time. Doing 2-3hours a day on the computer when not working 40 hours can be very tiring, and your trying to tell me it is possible 2-3hours after a 6-9hour shift....

Reply 88

OP

Original post by Cli p

Are you still unemployed?

Yes I am. I made another topic about it in this sub forum haven't remembered that I already made this. I had my first 2 interviews in August this year (face to face) both in one week lol! I had one with a local authority a few weeks ago it had 4 positions for the same job. Now when I got to the interview they said 3 were already taken due to redeployment of internal staff. On feedback I was annihilated as the interviewer said "we had candidates from a local authority setting with more experiece" - now I travelled 150 miles either way, cost me £100, but could they not have really identified at the application stage that due to the high number of candiates from a LA background they would be far more suited than someone who isnt??! Things like this really dont help, and I am even more down after this!! I think they just offered me the interview for equal opportunity basis to get their numbers...

Reply 89

OP

Oh and to those that slagging me off for no trying a min wage job, gues what? I have tried them in the past 6/7 months since this topic was made and cant even get them. The demand for them is even more higher than grad jobs/subject specific jobs as everyone who is made redundant/college/school leaver/or anyone that can apply to them applies and there are countless applicants! It's a lot easier for most of you to say how "easy" it is, because you got one or are in uni full time.

Reply 90

Pariah

15

Original post by Uni=RipOff

Go and try it and come back and tell me. Have you not read the latest stories? Some grads end working in Tescos or other small places and 7years later are in the same role due to lack of time. Doing 2-3hours a day on the computer when not working 40 hours can be very tiring, and your trying to tell me it is possible 2-3hours after a 6-9hour shift....

well, frankly, no i have not read any stories about recent grads so paralysed by exhaustion from doing a few shifts at tesco that they have been trapped in the job for years. do please link me up.

Reply 91

OP

Original post by Pariah

well, frankly, no i have not read any stories about recent grads so paralysed by exhaustion from doing a few shifts at tesco that they have been trapped in the job for years. do please link me up.

I smell ignorance. Guess you got a job? Or full time student? When **** hits the fan come back and tell me how it really is.

Reply 92

Pariah

15

when i was a solicitor, which i was for nearly 17 years, i regularly did 12 hour days and 60 hour weeks. the idea that a couple of extra hours a day on a computer during a 40 hour work week at a supermarket is impossible is frankly pathetic.

tbh the more i read from you on this thread the less surprised i am that you are unemployed

Reply 93

Sigma44

1

Original post by Uni=RipOff

Go and try it and come back and tell me. Have you not read the latest stories? Some grads end working in Tescos or other small places and 7years later are in the same role due to lack of time. Doing 2-3hours a day on the computer when not working 40 hours can be very tiring, and your trying to tell me it is possible 2-3hours after a 6-9hour shift....

To me, this summarizes why you've not got a proper job. Also, please don't use the lowest quality graduates to justify your laziness. If those graduates can't spare time (or can't be arsed) to apply for better jobs in the 7 years they worked in Tesco, they deserve to work there.

I personally work on average 50-60 hours a week, AND on top of that, take lessons + prepare for professional qualifications to further myself. Being 'tired' is really no excuse when it comes to bettering yourself for the future, especially for you, when it's 2-3 hours a day only.

NOTE: Despite saying all this, I'm currently on my way home after drinking with my colleagues, so my grammer might not be on par. <-- All credibility lost? lollllllll

Reply 94

OP

Original post by Sigma44

To me, this summarizes why you've not got a proper job. Also, please don't use the lowest quality graduates to justify your laziness. If those graduates can't spare time (or can't be arsed) to apply for better jobs in the 7 years they worked in Tesco, they deserve to work there.

I personally work on average 50-60 hours a week, AND on top of that, take lessons + prepare for professional qualifications to further myself. Being 'tired' is really no excuse when it comes to bettering yourself for the future, especially for you, when it's 2-3 hours a day only.

NOTE: Despite saying all this, I'm currently on my way home after drinking with my colleagues, so my grammer might not be on par. <-- All credibility lost? lollllllll

2-3hours per day not from laziness but lack of jobs available or applicable to me. This wont apply to me but everyone i.e. you cant apply for an accountants job when you dont have the relevant qualifications. Lessons + quals cost money which I dont have pal. You think money grows on trees as well as the fact of endless availability of jobs....

As for your grammar it is fine. Despite your trying to "further" yourself via various means, you spell "summarises" with a "z" - and dont blame the phones "auto spell" (auto spell is for idiots). And spelling and grammar are 2 different things. Am not being personal on you but I have realised that many people on here are under the age of 16 and talk out of their backsides unfortunately thinking the world is all happy with everything easy (i.e. tons of jobs like you imply).

Reply 95

username912610

No offense but Environmental Health sounds like a mickey mouse degree.

Original post by Xarren

So.. Just to confirm: You went to a **** uni, studied a **** course and now you are unable to obtain a job that pays more than a **** salary?

I can't see a problem with that.

I'm crying :rofl2:

(edited 10 years ago)

Reply 96

MrSupernova

16

Original post by Uni=RipOff

To the person that says they will grad in 2015 in teaching, you are spot on.

There are many teaching jobs up and down the country, many local authorities websites are flooded with teaching jobs.

Social work is another popular area.

And to those that say about minimum wage / part time jobs - they are fierce too - if you noticed many people in these jobs are older people, organisations prefer to take on the older generation as they tend to think the young folks will leave when they find something better - a business point of view.

@ my course and 8 unis - common sense would say the less unis doing a unique course the better it is for job prospects. Lets take Law for example, nearly all unis are doing this course with about 200-400 students in take per year (if not more) that creates thousands of law grads up and down the country - NOW that makes competition.

Prior to the economic fall, those on my course were more or less guaranteed jobs with local authorities but the economic crisis hit the localities significantly that cuts were made.

Nonsense. I work part-time at McDonald's and the oldest person here who isn't one of the store managers is only 26 (he's a shift manager)

(edited 10 years ago)

Reply 97

nimoy234