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English Lit vs Lang AT UNIVERSITY

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Reply 20
Original post by zoe.louise
Haha! Eh well , it's practice!

I've been writing for myself, reading writing blogs etc for about 10 years. Used to publish stuff on wattpad but deleted all that. Tried NaNoWriMo, finished it but didn't enjoy it. I'm not working on anything at the minute but I'll probably start something soon :-)


What's nanowrimo? 10 years, ahaha you started as little wittle kid then :L

PM me your blog man , I wanna read your stuff!! unless it's one of those private "internet persona" "stay out" kinda shiz, if so i'l leave ya to it lol
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Reply 21
Original post by billy06
Jheeze. Well that's enlightening to say the least :/

I can tell you're frustrated by your degree choice man. That's actually really changed my view on things now.
But then, aren't people who do degrees like "International Business" and "Marketing" and whatnot in the same likes as us? My brother was telling me he met Media graduates when applying for his graduate-level positions.

Also, I have an unconditional from Oxford ( Brookes :tongue: ) for English and Politics dual-honors. What do you think of that in terms of job prospects?

There are a tonne of degrees that don't really go anywhere, so yeah, you might meet people like that. I'm not really a specialist on other degrees, so I can't say for sure what's good or what isn't. I just know that you should only do English Language if you want to do one of the jobs I mentioned earlier (speech therapist etc). But those are obviously really competitive as tonnes of Language grads are applying for them, so there's still no guarantee of anything. The market is crying out for certain things, you have to look at those (and also predict if they'll still be wanted in 10 years time).

I dunno much about Politics as a degree, so I can't help you there, I'm afraid. Oxford Brookes is a fairly well respected university though. It's the best of the ex-polytechnics - I know that as my uni is also an ex-poly. But you could go to the real Oxford, study English Lit or Lang, and still have as few skills to offer an employer as if you went to the worst uni in the country. If you're interested in politics, then research how you get into it, and if it's actually likely you will get into it. I don't want to say give up on a dream because it'd be difficult though; if that is what you really want then go for it 100%. But just make sure you know what you're in for if that's the path you choose, and have some contingency plans.
Reply 22
Original post by xDave-
There are a tonne of degrees that don't really go anywhere, so yeah, you might meet people like that. I'm not really a specialist on other degrees, so I can't say for sure what's good or what isn't. I just know that you should only do English Language if you want to do one of the jobs I mentioned earlier (speech therapist etc). But those are obviously really competitive as tonnes of Language grads are applying for them, so there's still no guarantee of anything. The market is crying out for certain things, you have to look at those (and also predict if they'll still be wanted in 10 years time).

I dunno much about Politics as a degree, so I can't help you there, I'm afraid. Oxford Brookes is a fairly well respected university though. It's the best of the ex-polytechnics - I know that as my uni is also an ex-poly. But you could go to the real Oxford, study English Lit or Lang, and still have as few skills to offer an employer as if you went to the worst uni in the country. If you're interested in politics, then research how you get into it, and if it's actually likely you will get into it. I don't want to say give up on a dream because it'd be difficult though; if that is what you really want then go for it 100%. But just make sure you know what you're in for if that's the path you choose, and have some contingency plans.


Have you ever thought about becoming a writer?

I don't think I have the right character for politics; I'm not good at pleasing everyone, or even attempting to at the least.

I want to study it because I find it interesting- the same, as you have probably figured out, goes for English.

Ahhh, what to do, what to do :/

#dont #have #the #grades #to #get #into #oxford
Original post by billy06
What's nanowrimo? 10 years, ahaha you started as little wittle kid then :L

PM me your blog man , I wanna read your stuff!! unless it's one of those private "internet persona" "stay out" kinda shiz, if so i'l leave ya to it lol


Yeah, I was little. So you can imagine how much the stuff I write has changed!

NaNoWriMo is a global writing challenge. People sign up and the challenge is to write a 50k novel in the month of November. You can track wordcount on the site :-)

I don't know if I can share it on here? Is there a rule about it? You can type Zoe's Corner in Google, maybe add blogspot to the search too. It's not great, it's mainly interviews. But there's a series of short stories under the WriCha tab.
Reply 24
Original post by zoe.louise
Yeah, I was little. So you can imagine how much the stuff I write has changed!

NaNoWriMo is a global writing challenge. People sign up and the challenge is to write a 50k novel in the month of November. You can track wordcount on the site :-)

I don't know if I can share it on here? Is there a rule about it? You can type Zoe's Corner in Google, maybe add blogspot to the search too. It's not great, it's mainly interviews. But there's a series of short stories under the WriCha tab.


I'm up for that! Looks like we'll be competing then. May the best writer succeed :tongue:

Oh that's just disgusting. Advertising your blog on these humble, once-peaceful, forums, it's just absolutely revolting. * calling Moderator *

(I'll check it out :tongue: )
Original post by billy06
I'm up for that! Looks like we'll be competing then. May the best writer succeed :tongue:

Oh that's just disgusting. Advertising your blog on these humble, once-peaceful, forums, it's just absolutely revolting. * calling Moderator *

(I'll check it out :tongue: )


Haha! Oh no!

(Thanks! :-P)
Original post by zoe.louise
Yeah, I was little. So you can imagine how much the stuff I write has changed!

NaNoWriMo is a global writing challenge. People sign up and the challenge is to write a 50k novel in the month of November. You can track wordcount on the site :-)

I don't know if I can share it on here? Is there a rule about it? You can type Zoe's Corner in Google, maybe add blogspot to the search too. It's not great, it's mainly interviews. But there's a series of short stories under the WriCha tab.


Omg I've read your blog before! It's awesome :eek:
Original post by Gorwell
Omg I've read your blog before! It's awesome :eek:

No, fricken' way?! :eek: Are you serious??
Original post by zoe.louise
No, fricken' way?! :eek: Are you serious??


Yes!! I can't remember how I came across it but I've been on it a few times. :biggrin: It's a small world!
Original post by Gorwell
Yes!! I can't remember how I came across it but I've been on it a few times. :biggrin: It's a small world!


Wow :biggrin: It certainly is! I feel really bad about how little I've updated it though :-/

I don't know what to say, you've really made my day!
Original post by zoe.louise
Wow :biggrin: It certainly is! I feel really bad about how little I've updated it though :-/

I don't know what to say, you've really made my day!


Aw don't feel bad! However, now I know you have TSR I may have to nag you for an update. :colone:
I'm glad :tongue: thank you!
Original post by Gorwell
Aw don't feel bad! However, now I know you have TSR I may have to nag you for an update. :colone:
I'm glad :tongue: thank you!


Haha, sure! I have like three drafts saved with not much content in them. But I shall have to finish one and update now! If ever there was a time to try get back into the routine it would be this summer. :-)

I was actually gonna start vlogging come september/october and document everything :-P
Original post by zoe.louise
Haha, sure! I have like three drafts saved with not much content in them. But I shall have to finish one and update now! If ever there was a time to try get back into the routine it would be this summer. :-)

I was actually gonna start vlogging come september/october and document everything :-P


Woo! Can't wait to see what you have in store. :biggrin:
You could try making book reviews on YouTube? If that interests you that is.:tongue: Vlogging sounds awesome!
Original post by Gorwell
Woo! Can't wait to see what you have in store. :biggrin:
You could try making book reviews on YouTube? If that interests you that is.:tongue: Vlogging sounds awesome!


That was actually my intention last year but then second year of college and uni applications were more demanding than I anticipated. :-P

So, do you blog or write or something like that?
Original post by zoe.louise
That was actually my intention last year but then second year of college and uni applications were more demanding than I anticipated. :-P

So, do you blog or write or something like that?


I'm assuming you've just finished your A2 exams? How did they go? :smile:

I'm more of a writer than a blogger! I've contemplated starting a blog for my work but I wouldn't know where to start. If you have any advice I'd be eternally grateful :colondollar:
Original post by billy06
Hmm, I see what you mean. But then again, English Literature on its face does not seem to relate to media in any sense [apart from being a literary critic]. So why does the degree fare so well in that mode of business?


I think this is a case of correlation, not causation. It's not that newspapers see an English degree and go 'oh wow! Give that one the job!'. It's more that the sort of person who wants to get an English degree tends to be the sort of person who wants to get into journalism too (e.g., metropolitan, thinks of themselves being 'cultured', prefers qualitative to quantitative work, that sort of thing). If anything, doing a degree in something that teaches you specific expertise is a better base from which to become a journalist, since you can both go for generalist jobs in the media as well as more specific fields like scientific or economic journalism.
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Original post by billy06
Hi,

I know English Lit graduates are very saught for by employers; for example, my friend was just telling me how there were more history and english graduates in the final stages of a Deloitte Internship Scheme than there were finance graduates.

What about English Language though? What kind of stuff do you study?

I have unconditionals for both Lit and Lang and am trying to choose between the two. Also, which is best for a career in media / radio / broadcasting? :confused:


In terms of which is best for a career in media--either, it doesn't make a difference since neither of them will impart any particular skills or knowledge useful in those fields. Do what interests you. For those fields the important thing is to get lots and lots of experience in the thing you want to do and to establish contacts both with people your own age and people already established in that field through work experience and internships and that sort of thing.

English Language seems to me to essentially be linguistics studied in a more applied (and dare I say more dumbed down?) way--you'll be looking at the structure of language, language development, grammar, phonetics, all that. English Literature is going to give you an actual education in the humanities: you will learn about the way literature is written, the history of ideas that underpins it, rhetoric, poetics, all that sort of thing. Neither are very employable but it is probably marginally more impressive to tell someone you're trying to pull at a party that you study 'English literature' than it is to say you study 'English language'.
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Original post by Gorwell
I'm assuming you've just finished your A2 exams? How did they go? :smile:

I'm more of a writer than a blogger! I've contemplated starting a blog for my work but I wouldn't know where to start. If you have any advice I'd be eternally grateful :colondollar:


I think they went well. My last exam was June 10th :-) are you must starting?

Sure, I'll PM you bloggy stuff :-)
Original post by zoe.louise
I think they went well. My last exam was June 10th :-) are you must starting?

Sure, I'll PM you bloggy stuff :-)


You'll do fine.:smile: Good luck for results! Yep I'm starting AS :biggrin:

Thank you so much! :tongue:
billy06,
Fingers crossed for you! If you have any questions about the course, let me know :smile:
Anja

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