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I'm 23 and have never had a girlfriend.

Wanna hang out?
Is it a coincidence that all of the "I'm 22/23/24 and have never had a girlfriend/boyfriend" people on this thread are also the ones that disparage socialising and get uber-defensive when you suggest perhaps they could make better use of their time than spending their days ****ing around on computer games like overgrown 14 year olds?

No, no it isn't.
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Original post by cole-slaw
Is it a coincidence that all of the "I'm 22/23/24 and have never had a girlfriend/boyfriend" people on this thread are also the ones that disparage socialising and get uber-defensive when you suggest perhaps they could make better use of their time than spending their days ****ing around on computer games like overgrown 14 year olds?

No, no it isn't.



Not saying I agree with the tone of this, but it's definitely true that if you're not satisfied with being single, you need to do something about it. And keep going. Some people will be rejected more than others, that's a fact. But largely, you get what you give with courtship.

Consider more than one person at a time and put people you're attracted to at arm's length rather than on a pedestal. That way you don't get hung up if it's a no. Move on to the next person. And the next person. I learned this lesson the hard way at uni.
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Original post by rockrunride
Not saying I agree with the tone of this, but it's definitely true that if you're not satisfied with being single, you need to do something about it. And keep going. Some people will be rejected more than others, that's a fact. But largely, you get what you give with courtship.

Consider more than one person at a time and put people you're attracted to at arm's length rather than on a pedestal. That way you don't get hung up if it's a no. Move on to the next person. And the next person. I learned this lesson the hard way at uni.


Its a lifestyle choice, perhaps one made unknowingly.

If you make the effort to go out and socialise between the ages of 16 and 22, you will find that friends and partners come very easily. There is no need for any rejection at all.

If you don't, then they won't. If you're happy with this then fine.

But what I don't like to see is people who make that lifestyle choice that they're going to be insular and anti-social, but then complain when they don't have any friends or have never had a girlfriend.
Original post by cole-slaw
anger leads to fear, fear leads to hatred, hatred leads to the dark side.


You watch Star Wars? What a loser. How do you ever find time to socialize and watch films?

I see you have moved on from 'those who don't drink will never have friends or a partner' to 'those who play video games will never have friends or a partner' both of which are moronic statements :confused:

Video games are a bigger industry than films. Looks like the human race will die out as all these people are obviously socially inept virgins.
Original post by ChaoticButterfly
You watch Star Wars? What a loser. How do you ever find time to socialize and watch films?

I see you have moved on from 'those who don't drink will never have friends or a partner' to 'those who play video games will never have friends or a partner' both of which are moronic statements :confused:

Video games are a bigger industry than films. Looks like the human race will die out as all these people are obviously socially inept virgins.


Are you this aggressive and antagonistic on dates?
Original post by cole-slaw
Are you this aggressive and antagonistic on dates?


Nope. Anyway I thought dates were for teenagers? :confused: If I get antagonistic it is normally because I was poked first :dontknow:

Just pointing out the flaw in your view. Loads of people play video games. It is entirely possible to partake in a solitary hobby (reading being an example) and have a social life. Why is this so hard to understand?

I get defensive at the assumption that if you play even a single video game you are by definition a social loser. I'm not saying being sat in front of a screen all the time is good for you (it obviously isn't) but if some people do find socializing harder than others what exactly is wrong with them having something they can do on their own?

Whatever the reasons some people develop social phobias that become debilitating. If someone had depression or agoraphobia or another mental health problem would your solution just be to call them pampered lazy cowards?

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/social-anxiety/Pages/Social-anxiety.aspx - it's a recognized thing

I know I need to socialize more, I know I like socializing and I know it makes me miserable when I don't do enough of it. Poeple with depression often know what they need to do to make themselves feel better, but they don't carry it out as that is the nature of the illness. Well bad social anxiety is similar. You can get stuck in horrible negative feedback loops. You know you should go out more and meet new people. But you are scared so you don't. This makes the problem worse and you become more apprehensive to go out until eventually the thought of going out is so bad that you just can't bring yourself to do it and you just hide away feeling awful about it. Then some tit calls you a lazy coward which makes you feel utterly worthless and a waste of space of a person.
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Original post by ChaoticButterfly
Nope. Anyway I thought dates were for teenagers? :confused:

Just pointing out the flaw in your view. Loads of people play video games. It is entirely possible to partake in a solitary hobby (reading being an example) and have a social life. Why is this so hard to understand?

I get defensive at the assumption that if you play even a single video game you are by definition a social loser. I'm not saying being sat in front of a screen all the time is good for you (it obviously isn't) but if some people do find socializing harder than others what exactly is wrong with them having something they can do on their own?

Whatever the reasons some people develop social phobias that become debilitating. If someone had depression or agoraphobia or another mental health problem would your solution just be to call them pampered lazy cowards?

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/social-anxiety/Pages/Social-anxiety.aspx - it's a recognized thing

I know I need to socialize more, I know I like socializing and I know it makes me miserable when I don't do enough of it. Poeple with depression often know what they need to do to make themselves feel better, but they don't carry it out as that is the nature of the illness. Well bad social anxiety is similar. You can get stuck in horrible negative feedback loops. You know you should go out more and meet new people. But you are scared so you don't. This makes the problem worse and you become more apprehensive to go out until eventually the thought of going out is so bad that you just can't bring yourself to do it and you just hide away feeling awful about it. Then some tit calls you a lazy coward which makes you feel utterly worthless and a waste of space of a person.



It is a recognised thing, sure, but 90% of the people on TSR who claim to have it, don't.

You describe the usual stress and turmoil involved with socialising as if you think other people don't go through this as well.

We do. Sometimes I don't want to go out. But guess what, I go anyway, because doing things you don't really want to do is part of life, and having the mental strength to do them even when you really, really, really don't want to is what separates adults from children.

Children make excuses. Adults just get on with it.



I watch maybe 1-2 films a week. That's 5 hours, and I probably watch about the same amount of tv. 10 hours a week.

Note that I have a girlfriend, so have no need to go out and look for one, otherwise I actually would probably spend significantly less time in the house.

You're not a waste of space, you seem to be an intelligent, articulate reasonably pleasant chap. You just need to stop making excuses before its too late.

22 is a fantastic age, sometimes I wish I was 22 again. You should be knee deep in guts every weekend.
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Reply 68
same here. some people are meant to be alone forever. no onse wants us, no one likes us, we just have to accept it and get on with life, you cant blame people for your situation.
Reply 69
Original post by SebCross
Couldn't agree more. Keeping even a committed relationship on an even path is bloody hard work...


Exactly, it really is hard work especially when one loves the other more. Learn how to be happy alone and not defined by someone else, and when you reach that point that's when you'll find someone special, when you aren't searching so hard for just anyone.
Original post by Anonymous
I don't think you'd be interested if you actually met me. People tell me I am weird. Why haven't you had a girlfriend though? I mean, guys may not like what I'm going to say but I really think it's easier for guys. Guys think any girl can get a bf and it is just not true. I am proof of that.


Why is it easier for guys?
Why do you think that is?
Original post by bloomblaze
Why is it easier for guys?


So many guys are sexists or weirdos that if you're just a normal lad you're instantly like top 10%. Women are generally more normal, so its harder to stand out.
I'm 25 and have never had a boyfriend. It seems to bother other people more than it does me...
What about children that have died?
Reply 75
Work on your self-confidence, broaden your social circles that's about it tbh. Work on your appearance if it bothers you too.
Original post by OU Student
I'm 25 and have never had a boyfriend. It seems to bother other people more than it does me...


...but... but why???
Original post by hellodave5
...but... but why???


Which part? Relationships doesn't interest me in the slightest and never had done. No idea why it bothers other people though. When I was at uni, I got a very odd lecture on how if I don't have a boyfriend now (I was 20 / 21) I won't be able to have children, because time is running out. Due to my current health, children are a no even if I was with someone.
Original post by OU Student
Which part? Relationships doesn't interest me in the slightest and never had done. No idea why it bothers other people though. When I was at uni, I got a very odd lecture on how if I don't have a boyfriend now (I was 20 / 21) I won't be able to have children, because time is running out. Due to my current health, children are a no even if I was with someone.


That's strange. Why don't you want one? Health problems?
Reply 79
I think unless you are above average attractiveness dating is hard work and its easy to go for long periods without success. Everyone trys to play above their league. So it takes tenacity and patience to hit success. 23 is probably not exceptional.

I reckon on balance it is equal difficulty for girls and guys. I think girls have more ways to enhance attractiveness, accentuate femininity to attract a mate. Guys have the advantage that it accepted to take the lead and so they can be more proactive in seeking a partner.

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