Gay cake row and freedom of speech

You're not answering though? If someone believed that black people were inferior and wouldn't serve to them, it would be fine for you? This is an identical proposition on different issues. If your answer is, however, different, it would be quite hypocritical, might I say.

You're making them seem like the victims. Lol. So, you think religious people generally imposing their beliefs on others is fine? Cause I'm sure as hell not.

But on topic, they didn't sue for that reason. They sued for sexual discrimination (ie that they were treated differently than a heterosexual couple would). Of course the fact that the owners are Christians here is relevant, but it's not due to the religion per se. It would apply even if it were a Muslim, a Buddhist or something unrelated to a religion altogether.

They are not obliged to agree with everything, but they may not discriminate unless the appeal is successful. Don't see any issue here...

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Did you read anything I said?


I am aware of all this, I want an environment where homophobes are run into the dirt, even if they're not being actively homophobic.


Honestly, I would be happy if Churches would double up as gay strip clubs.

I'll answer when you read what I said to Lady Comstock.

How is it an imposition of beliefs? If anything suing! is imposing!

You may as well direct me there because I'm already taking time away from my study...

I have already explained the first part.

Wot mate? Suing is imposing? We live in a democratic society governed by the rule of law. You can sue for whatever the heck you like.

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Did you read anything I said?

No one was being homophobic. They weren't turned away for being gay. Their message was refused because it's stupid and inappropriate. Now you're being obtuse. As long as you keep quoting me to repeat yourself I will do the same:
if skinheads came in and asked for white power on their cake in a Muslim bakery or a black bakery or just any bakery, they can easily and rightfully go against putting it.

I'm SO SICK of anything that doesn't bootlick gays and their antics (this is a huge antic), it's suddenly homophobic.

You really don't get it, I know the bakery didn't refuse them for being gay, they refused only to write a message.


This case is like taking a naughty little religious bigot and rubbing his nose in a big pile of piss to teach him a lesson, it's a good thing.

Excuse me but suing to try to show that "we are here" for being turned away for a cake is imposing gays on society. Now you can't even refuse to do the smallest thing without being persecuted.

Once again I ask you: would you like to be sued for your beliefs?

If I reported you for the post I am responding to right now, and it got taken down, would you want to **** me up?
Yes you would.

And I won't redirect you anywhere, you're the one begging to argue apples and oranges with racism. If you want to see what I think go find my response to Lady Com because it's only two pages long thread mate No excuses.

lmao at me not getting it. No I get it, I don't agree. Don't tell me I don't get anything little man. And oh ok an Atheist. Surprising.

Now step aside from your thoughts and if I reported you for this post, and you got penalized for it, you'd be pissed off.

Right?

Right!

yea

so understand the rage behind being sued for your beliefs.

People's beliefs don't actually deserve to be respected or protected if their beliefs are a load of damaging BS.

Even human rights are a fairly nonsense social construct.


I think protecting gay people/women/ethnic minorities in generally a good thing, I am aware of the hypocrisy of a liberal nation persecuting these homophobes for refusing to have a political message on their product, but I still think the outcome is good.

okay lets try again


No idea is above scrutiny, no people are beneath dignity

They were fined, it's not like we took them to a gulag

Wot?

No, which is why I would not discriminate others on the basis of my beliefs when I own a place which I know may have to deal with such clients.

I wouldn't actually. Mostly because I know it won't be taken down - I didn't break any rules. If I were being an idiot and insulted you then it's something I'd expect.

I won't. If you want me to read it, simply quote it. I still asked you two questions which you evaded, so...

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I'm not talking about this particular post. I'm talking any post you felt was fine that got reported. Don't tell me you don't get agitated when someone vindictively reports you.

I don't want you to read anything. You asked me what I felt about black rights and I told you to go find it yourself, since you're dying to know what I already said, and you keep bringing it up when I keep telling you it's irrelevant. It's irrelevant because discussing analogies is not only digressive, it's also a sign that you don't know what you're talking about "so let's take a detour." Which I won't do. Figure a way out to articulate yourself without bringing in outside subjects.

Lol who discriminated against who? So we're back to square one.