scientific reasons for believing in god?

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One should be quite careful when saying "everyone thinks" because not everyone does.
True it is established by most scientists that the universe had a beginning in time 14 odd billion years ago.

The causation argument States simply that everyone that exists has a cause for such existence, there was a time before that made that happen. Eg I was born because of my parents they were born because of theirs etc etc

Now the problem of that comes from the fact that nothing can logically go back forever right? This is the infinite regress. "What made the universe?" "God did" "What made God then?" By logic it would be the God of God
Theists don't like this at all, so they say God is a special exception and is a "uncaused cause" mostly justified by the idea that God is "outside" of time or the beginning of time itself from whence there was no time before God.

Here's the crutch, most scientists say that there was no time before the Big Bang, anything that came before was outside of time. The Big Bang is the moment time and the universe as we know it began. Therefore it can be concluded that the first cause for the universe is itself, there was no time for a creator or anything before the bang, the line ends there.

It's a philosophical argument and not a scientific one, there are instances of "uncaused" instances occurring such as nuclear decay.
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Yeah I was going to wrote most atheists instead of all but I find it annoying using g this site on mobile. Then again I have yet to meet one who doesn't believe in the big bang.
So time only existed after a big bang. But surely time is just a measure used by humans. Doesn't really make sense to me how it's treated like a physical object and saying how it came to be.
So the first cause of the big bang was itself... Doesn't that mean the big bang was eternal (hence going against the idea of the universe having a finite existence)? Or the other explanation is that the big bang came out of nothing, which again doesn't make sense. As you know science never seems to accept the ideology of anything appearing from nothing (e.g. energy). It's like saying 0+0 gives rise to 0 <...

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time only existing prior to the big bang isn't a stonewall theory yet. the multiverse theory could contradict it

but how do you know the qu'ran is true? don't you need proof for that too

Out of curiousity what does (SAW) mean? I've seen pbuh plenty of times which I know means "Peace Be Upon Him", I've never seen SAW before.

the self-awareness of existence, which i refer you're referring to, comes with intelligence. and although consciousnesses is very difficult to explain at the moment, there's no reason why we wouldn't be able to explain it in the future

Could you tell me about the multiverse. I heard Dawkins mention it once but never really understood.

You type fast and nice reply.
Yeah I was going to wrote most atheists instead of all but I find it annoying using g this site on mobile. Then again I have yet to meet one who doesn't believe in the big bang.
So time only existed after a big bang. But surely time is just a measure used by humans. Doesn't really make sense to me how it's treated like a physical object and saying how it came to be.
So the first cause of the big bang was itself... Doesn't that mean the big bang was eternal (hence going against the idea of the universe having a finite existence)? Or the other explanation is that the big bang came out of nothing, which again doesn't make sense. As you know science never seems to accept the ideology of anything appearing from nothing (e.g. energy). It's like saying 0+0 gives rise to 0 <...

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The multiverse is simply the notion that this universe isn't the only one, in fact there are many universes alongside our own universe that exist that arise and live their life, our universe is one of these seemingly infinite ones.

Now theoretically its provable, a scientist can write out all the formulas and prove it to you, however it lacks a practical and experimental piece of hard evidence to solidify the theory, although other pieces have been suggested that haven't yet convinced most or overwhelmingly proved it.

think why the things are so logical . Don't you smell something suspicious ? I don't say god but something complicated is happening in the background. ??? but I don't know what is it???

i did. they're implying that natural selection is a "random process" by saying that things an eye for example comes across by chance. they're being misleading about what evolution is in order to prove their point. an eye wouldn't come across in a single mutation, it happens gradually through natural selection

Thinking through a philosophical way based on this, for example an eye, it's so complex with each an every part of it having a purpose, surely it has to have a designer behind it?
Think about man made objects with complex features. It needs a superior intelligence behind it.

Well science will never be able to provide proof of God's existence, however we (Muslims) have our own proof- the Qur'an which was revealed to Prophet Muhammad (SAW).

It isn't a 'proof'. It's a centuries-old shared delusion, which was originally deliberately created and planned by some very manipulative people who wanted to control an empire in early medieval times.

scientific, logical evidence which points towards the existence of god

convert me from atheism

scientific, logical evidence which points towards the existence of god

convert me from atheism