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Original post by sunny.side.up
Your aware we can tell your the thread starter right?

I stand by that. You do not understand the culture surrounding our families. Informing your parents of what time you are coming home is a huge deal. Now if I did want to bash western values, I would have placed emphasis on the drinking and working in a pub. I didn't because I am accepting of that so really dont get your pount
Original post by Anonymous
How so? Our cultures are completely different when it comes to family values and I'm not going to apologise for that. I have not once bashed western culture.


No, we are all people at the end to the day, and there will be a vast difference in how things work in different families, both Asian and white (need I emphasise that "white" is not one homogenous group and that there are people from very different backgrounds who happen to be white - including muslims?). You haven't bashed western culture but you have made generalisations, which just comes across as a bit narrow-minded.
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Original post by Anonymous
I stand by that. You do not understand the culture surrounding our families. Informing your parents of what time you are coming home is a huge deal. Now if I did want to bash western values, I would have placed emphasis on the drinking and working in a pub. I didn't because I am accepting of that so really dont get your pount


Ohhh I apoligize. I thought you were trying to act as if you were another person.
Original post by black tea
No, we are all people at the end to the day, and there will be a vast difference in how things work in different families, both Asian and white (need I emphasise that "white" is not one homogenous group and that there are people from very different backgrounds who happen to be white - including muslims?). You haven't bashed wested culture but you have made generalisations, which just comes across as a bit narrow-minded.

Right. Enjoy being pedantic. I think you can derive exactly what I meant. To clarify, a British family will not have the same family structure as a first generation Pakistani family. Argue with the wall if you think differently.
Original post by sunny.side.up
Ohhh I apoligize. I thought you were trying to act as if you were another person.

Lol no. I was just posting a view point without responding to anyone
Original post by Anonymous
Right. Enjoy being pedantic. I think you can derive exactly what I meant. To clarify, a British family will not have the same family structure as a first generation Pakistani family. Argue with the wall if you think differently.

I gather you live with your sister and mum? How is that different to a single parent English household?
Original post by black tea
I gather you live with your sister and mum? How is that different to a single parent English household?

Sorry, family values as opposed to structure.
Original post by Anonymous
Sorry, family values as opposed to structure.

Your sister and mother are the only normal ones there! You are paranoid and make your sister feel uncomfortable, no wonder she tries to avoid you by staying out late.
Original post by Anonymous
Your sister and mother are the only normal ones there! You are paranoid and make your sister feel uncomfortable, no wonder she tries to avoid you by staying out late.

are you being serious?? she can do what she wants idc. im the one who has to put up with my mum staying up late at night worrying and i used this thread to vent. That is genuinely it.
Original post by Anonymous
are you being serious?? she can do what she wants idc. im the one who has to put up with my mum staying up late at night worrying and i used this thread to vent. That is genuinely it.

So you despise her because she is acting like an English person and not an immigrant? Mothers tend to worry about their children when they go out. Maybe you should get a social life yourself instead of gossiping like a jealous girl.
Original post by Anonymous
Sorry, family values as opposed to structure.

I stand by my point that family values are different in different families and aren't necessarily influenced by ethnicity.
Original post by weightlifting98
yeah geez these people think they can come to the UK and judge people for living life like a normal person here!


Listen you racist ****, she’s asking for advice, not insensitive comments from a dipshit like yourself :smile:
Original post by weightlifting98
shes just being judgemental like a lot of muslims are to people that live regular lives in the UK

How can you group an entire religion because of one person’s comment? Are you mentally deranged😂 she’s complaining about the worry her sister is causing and has asked for genuine advice, not insensitive comments from a racist fxck like yourself.
Original post by Anonymous
Long story short, i come from a traditional pakistani family. My mum raised us alone in an inner city area.

My sister is younger than me (22) and she recently got a job in a pub. She secretly drinks, dresses not very islamically and takes weed. Her shift's finish at 10pm but she does not come home until half 1 in the morning and claims she is talking to her co workers.

My mum is a push over. She thinks my sister is working in a restaurant. I had an argument with my sister recently and told her to get a grip but her response was she's an adult and can do whatever the hell she wants.

I'm sick and tired of her crap. My mum won't sleep until she gets back home because she's worried and I'm just so angry. Who tf spends 3 hours socialising after there shift???? I hate her so much for the stress she causes this family


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Reply 74
Original post by Anonymous
I think TSR isn't the best place to vent. You will never understand our culture.

It isn't a cultural thing. Many parents are over-protective worriers. It is entirely understandable behaviour for any parent.
It sound like there is a bit of circular cause and effect going on. Your sister resents the interference and reacts by shutting off communication. You and your mother react to the lack of communication by interfering more. Minimal compromise on both sides would probably see a marked improvement in relations.
Reply 75
Original post by Anonymous
Not once is stoning mentioned in the Qur’an and as for the driving that’s a rule Saudi Arabia made. Just because it’s an Islamic country doesn’t mean everything they do is what Islam says

You should be aware that much of Islamic practice comes via the sunnah, which is where all the references to stoning come from. Flogging, dismemberment, and execution by torture for non-crimes are in the Quran though.
In Saudi Arabia, women were prohibited from driving because it was considered that it could lead to situations of them being alone with non-mahram men - which is prohibited in Islam. It wasn't that women driving specifically was considered unIslamic, just the potential consequences.
Do you know that the constitution of Saudi Arabia is the Quran and sunnah?
Reply 76
Original post by Anonymous
Sorry, family values as opposed to structure.

So your "Pakistani culture" does not include children loving their parents and vice versa? Parents worrying over their children, often to the point of intrusion and interference? Parents wanting the best for their children and being willing to make sacrifices for them? Children wanting to please their parents and make them proud and being prepared to make sacrifices to achieve it, but also wanting personal freedom once they get into their teens and beyond?

Or is it pretty much the same?
Reply 77
Original post by Anonymous
Long story short, i come from a traditional pakistani family. My mum raised us alone in an inner city area.

My sister is younger than me (22) and she recently got a job in a pub. She secretly drinks, dresses not very islamically and takes weed. Her shift's finish at 10pm but she does not come home until half 1 in the morning and claims she is talking to her co workers.

My mum is a push over. She thinks my sister is working in a restaurant. I had an argument with my sister recently and told her to get a grip but her response was she's an adult and can do whatever the hell she wants.

I'm sick and tired of her crap. My mum won't sleep until she gets back home because she's worried and I'm just so angry. Who tf spends 3 hours socialising after there shift???? I hate her so much for the stress she causes this family

why does that even matter lol
Original post by black tea
I mean, you live in the UK - you have to accept that it is totally normal for your sister to be influenced by and want to be part of that culture. If you chose to be more conservative and stick to traditional Pakistani values, that's fine, but it doesn't mean your sister has to.


Taking feelings of others into consideration is not traditional pakistan value, that should be basic human decency. The OP is angry because their mom is suffering. Sister needs to take into consideration what she causes to her mother and try to lessen her worry somehow. The least she could do is aswer to phone call, or at least text. The sister is absolutely selfish and behaves like 14 year old. One phone call a night never killed anybody. Or a freaking text. And i am saying this as a European.

Original post by black tea
Sure, we don't understand. Respecting parents and parents doing the best for their children is exclusive to your culture :rolleyes:

Well you apparently don't... Or at least not in this context. The mother is worried because her kid is not picking up the phone. And the OP is angry because they don't want their mom to suffer and to be disrespected that way. Child which respects their parents would at least pick up the phone and say "hi! I am okay, i will get home around one in the morning"
Original post by Anonymous
are you being serious?? she can do what she wants idc. im the one who has to put up with my mum staying up late at night worrying and i used this thread to vent. That is genuinely it.

Honestly, i am sorry how these people are behaving towards you. They are obviously operating with a mindset that you are trying to destroy your sister's happines and fun and that you despise her having fun and drinking and staying up late when the only thing you really want is to lessen you mother's worry. Just know that i understand you even though i am an european, and that not all Europeans think that disrespecting parents by making them worry enough to stay up is okay. It is not.

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