Why are Muscular guys stereotyped as douchebags?

you look like someone I used to know

are you of eastern european origin?

nahh, I'm white british, sorry

also, this is a really old photo

The self obsessed, arrogant, generally narcissistic personality they have is really off putting.
Plus the body builder speak "bro", "alpha" etc is so lame and try-hard.

It's just what we use when talking to each other, no one is trying to act cool or hard.

Yeah il admit many bodybuilders are self-obsessed, but it is such a bad thing to want to really improve yourself .

Wanting to improve yourself and being self obsessed are very different things. If you want to improve yourself do it in a way that actually is interesting-something people want to hear about, something intelligent. Not just eating and drinking loads of protein and spending hours lifting metal up and down. To me, and others can disagree by all means, it is just brainless and not really bettering yourself at all.

As a girl going into the weight's area (which I do take seriously) some guys can be total idiots. There's a guy in my gym who wears an Olympic outfit which he wears 4 times a week and hogs the same machine for an hour and weirdly my mum has seen him strutting outside a Starbucks in his gear showing off. My quads are bigger than the guys that approach me wanting to use the weight rack I just got to so I can't help but roll my eyes at the douche bags.

It's just what we use when talking to each other, no one is trying to act cool or hard.

Yeah il admit many bodybuilders are self-obsessed, but it is such a bad thing to want to really improve yourself .

Wanting to improve yourself and being self obsessed are very different things. If you want to improve yourself do it in a way that actually is interesting-something people want to hear about, something intelligent. Not just eating and drinking loads of protein and spending hours lifting metal up and down. To me, and others can disagree by all means, it is just brainless and not really bettering yourself at all.

I would say that train of thought has more died out, and its more that the guys who are overly vain are seen as douchebags.

As in they just happen to work out, but in reality they often do minimal amounts of work out and take all those protein powders then do the minimal amount of work to have a six pack or what looks like one and act as if they are all bodybuilders.

I know guys who go to the gym every day, some are somewhat vain but none are the type that flaunt their bodies in minimal clothing just to get attention.

Muscles imply vanity, vanity implies narcissism, narcissism implies douchebag.

I think it's a phenomenon that has developed out of social media and the internet.

Most guys who train properly at the gym are good guys because any kind of activity like that which trains discipline and sacrifice builds character. You tend to find that they aren't guys who are out drinking all the time, they are usually humble and there's a good community spirit with guys helping each other out with routines and advice and stuff.

However there are some guys who work out who are loud, obnoxious and vain and the problem is these have a high profile on the internet they will be all over social media with topless selfies in the mirror showing off their generic tattoos, they go on bodybuilding.com and try to sound cool and fit in with all the brah lingo. They are also very active on dating sites and unfortunately part of the negative stereotype with women is that most women who have used dating sites have received messages from these kind of guy with their topless selfies, usually written in some kind of illiterate form like "hey baby, u ok lol? u wanna chat? wat u up2 lol". So girls go round saying guys that go to the gym are idiots etc.

The other guys who are serious trainers and decent guys aren't really high profile on the internet as they don't do that sort of stuff as much they just go about their normal lives and jobs without needing to put topless selfies everywhere. Probably most of them have wives or girlfriends anyway so they aren't on the dating sites either.

By lean, I mean not very big and by slightly muscular, I mean just toned. So they work out, eat right but not always in the gym.

Well dress sense is very important to me, it just means they look after the way they look. Idk, perhaps it's just irrational? Guys with very good bodies like Chris Evans or Henry Cavill have to train very hard and eat right all the time, which is different to dressing well imo. It's just something I really don't value and from my experience, guys like that tend to be arrogant and macho (which I dislike). That's just my perception and I'd ofc look over it if I am proven wrong.

When I say six pack I dont mean the stereotypical body builder type but the more mainstream ones that looks like just flat bodies with lumps on their stomach where a six pack would be and not noticable very much, sort of like the guys on Hollyoaks have or that you cant make out the lines where muscles would be.

Work hard could still be the minimal amount needed every day to reach it, then barely enough to maintain it since its just for looks, a real bodybuilder would maintain it.

I used to use weights every day when bored, not full on weight training but just a few hours a day using normal weights sitting on chair whilst watching a movie, not a huge effort just time consuming.