Has there been any legal cases regarding student maintenance?

Not that I've seen. I think it'd make for a pretty interesting case though, especially if the parent presented their income but that they were unable to support the child because of their outgoing expenses or something.

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Original post by balotelli12

Because parental support is a mere recommendation.
There is no right to fully funded higher education maintenance off the taxpayer.
Any case on such terms would fail, absolutely.

Then why on earth do people who's parents earn below a certain amount get extra, essentially free (ie they don't have to repay it) at the cost of the taxpayer?
There is clearly is a right, just for certain people.

Reply 5

alapa

I'm sorry if you are going through this. I think that student finance should be far more flexible for people who are in your situation.
I will be entitled to absolutely everything (and I couldn't go uni without it) but there are situations where someone gets absolutely everything and they can afford uni completely. For example a millionaires daughter who lives with her poor mother (under 25k) would be entitled to the full whammy even if her father gave her 10k a month to splash out at harrods.

Sorry that I can't be more help I haven't heard of any legal cases. Maybe you should write to your MP? Or start a petition.

Reply 6

alapa

Original post by joker12345

Then why on earth do people who's parents earn below a certain amount get extra, essentially free (ie they don't have to repay it) at the cost of the taxpayer?
There is clearly is a right, just for certain people.

Because their parents aren't capable of supporting them (most of the time) There are loopholes in the system though. Where people who are rich on paper only or have Unsupportive parents do not get the help they need.

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Original post by alapa

Because their parents aren't capable of supporting them (most of the time) There are loopholes in the system though. Where people who are rich on paper only or have Unsupportive parents do not get the help they need.

But that's my point - the other poster was saying parental support is a mere recommendation, but I was explaining that it isn't.

Reply 8

tania<3

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I think it's just because they can't give everyone the full amount... Too much money otherwise, so they have to draw boundaries somewhere. I certainly couldn't go to uni and do my degree on just my parent's income alone, so I do understand where they're coming from; however, I do think that its the people in the middle who end up losing out and something should be done about it.

Reply 9

alapa

Original post by joker12345

But that's my point - the other poster was saying parental support is a mere recommendation, but I was explaining that it isn't.

I agree, student finance actually expects parental support. If parental support isn't given then that's tough for the student. It's not fair.

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sachinisgod

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They really cant assume that parents can contribute. For example true the family might earn £75K for example and might have 3/4 kids, mortgage, bills. How on earth to support thier child as much as Student Finance EXPECT them too. at the end of the day if the loan has to be paid back its up to the student if they want to take out an optional amount but they have to pay it back with interest.

But obv the government has messed up the idea totally, when they have to give loans out to EU students who may/may not pay it back, there is little amount left to loan to Home students.. unfair IMO

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Hedgeman49

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Original post by sachinisgod

But obv the government has messed up the idea totally, when they have to give loans out to EU students who may/may not pay it back, there is little amount left to loan to Home students.. unfair IMO

Lol hi Nigel

Have you got any idea how much of the debt home students have racked up will never be recovered?

Answer: ****loads.

Reply 12

sachinisgod

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Original post by Hedgeman49

Lol hi Nigel

Have you got any idea how much of the debt home students have racked up will never be recovered?

Answer: ****loads.

well maybe thats the fault of the higher education system that gives out degrees to students who will not even find a job worth 21K a year to actually start paying back their loans. When the representative from SF herself says that they know majority of people will never pay it back, thats the amount of faith they have in their own education system :rolleyes:

Reply 13

Hedgeman49

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Original post by sachinisgod

well maybe thats the fault of the higher education system that gives out degrees to students who will not even find a job worth 21K a year to actually start paying back their loans. When the representative from SF herself says that they know majority of people will never pay it back, thats the amount of faith they have in their own education system :rolleyes:

Okay, so don't blame the EU students for it!

The majority of people will pay some, but not all of it back. I imagine the number who never make a repayment will be pretty low overall

Reply 14

balotelli12

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Original post by joker12345

But that's my point - the other poster was saying parental support is a mere recommendation, but I was explaining that it isn't.

What a ridiculous assertion!

Where is the contractual obligation for parents who are wealthy to support their children?
There isn't one!

It is merely an expectation that rich parents will support their children. If they mismanage their finances through lack of planning, over borrowing or spending on fripperies that's their lookout!

This thread beggars belief in its stupidity.
The OP wasn't about the relative unfairness of it all but about the ludicrous notion of suing SFE because mummy and daddy won't stump up!

(edited 9 years ago)

Reply 15

Tiger Rag

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But if a legal case was won, then what's going to stop everyone who'd currently receive the minimum, saying their parents won't support them for whatever reason? Where will the extra money come from?

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sachinisgod

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Original post by Hedgeman49

Okay, so don't blame the EU students for it!

The majority of people will pay some, but not all of it back. I imagine the number who never make a repayment will be pretty low overall

Well there is less money in the pot then because of that

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Original post by balotelli12

What a ridiculous assertion!

Where is the contractual obligation for parents who are wealthy to support their children?
There isn't one!

It is merely an expectation that rich parents will support their children. If they mismanage their finances through lack of planning, over borrowing or spending on fripperies that's their lookout!

This thread beggars belief in its stupidity.
The OP wasn't about the relative unfairness of it all but about the ludicrous notion of suing SFE because mummy and daddy won't stump up!

It's not contractual, but it's certainly an implied expectation that's ingrained into the system.
The OP is not about suing anyone. It's about applying for full SFE on the basis that parental income is not applicable so should not be assessed. Which, by the way, can be the case. If someone's married they get assessed based on their partner and parents are ignored, and if they claim no contact/relationship with parents they get assessed individually.

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Knalchemist