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Muslims currently at uni, what is your honest opinion of the culture?

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Ex Muslim, and I find the drinking and clubbing culture at uni to be meaningless and cringe. It leaves you feeling empty and cold. But I'm extremely introverted so I probably can't speak for everyone.
Original post by Josb
Do you like feminism?


What does this have to do with anything? I am not a feminist...
Original post by Josb
Do you like feminism?


Why do you care lol
I don't party/drink/smoke/do drugs/act like a slut, I am not Muslim, and I have a large group of friends at uni. You don't need to do any of those things to have a social life and to have fun.

I seriously don't understand people freaking out about not being able to go through uni without doing all those "immoral" things, all this crap about temptations and pressure. Not a single person tried to pressure me into anything, and I don't see why something you don't want to do would tempt you. And if something did actually for some reason tempt you then you could like... I don't know, have self control?

Anyway, the main purpose of university is for you to learn and at the end to get your degree. You don't have to do anything else, people really need to understand that.

As for living with a muslim, as long as you don't get in my way or try to change the way I live to suit you better, I don't care what you are/do.
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Original post by AishaGirl
Salams.

Muslims who are currently at uni or who have been at uni, what is your honest review / opinion of the lifestyle there? Did you find it very difficult to avoid haram situations?

I have this weird view in my head of there being fitnah around every corner you turn and pressure from the people in your halls to "socialise" when there is alcohol and music every time.

Would you say that it's easy to just mind your own business and study or is it really distracting with all the temptations around? If you had to give some important advice for a muslim going to uni, what advice would you give?

My dad is already freaking out about me going because he thinks it's going to be like a brothel... he said students don't always go out and they have parties inside most of the time.

Non Muslims, would you be bothered if a practising Muslim was in your hall? Someone who wears the hijab, prays, fasts etc?


Original post by AishaGirl
Salams.

Muslims who are currently at uni or who have been at uni, what is your honest review / opinion of the lifestyle there? Did you find it very difficult to avoid haram situations?

I have this weird view in my head of there being fitnah around every corner you turn and pressure from the people in your halls to "socialise" when there is alcohol and music every time.

Would you say that it's easy to just mind your own business and study or is it really distracting with all the temptations around? If you had to give some important advice for a muslim going to uni, what advice would you give?

My dad is already freaking out about me going because he thinks it's going to be like a brothel... he said students don't always go out and they have parties inside most of the time.

Non Muslims, would you be bothered if a practising Muslim was in your hall? Someone who wears the hijab, prays, fasts etc?


Original post by AishaGirl
Salams.

Muslims who are currently at uni or who have been at uni, what is your honest review / opinion of the lifestyle there? Did you find it very difficult to avoid haram situations?

I have this weird view in my head of there being fitnah around every corner you turn and pressure from the people in your halls to "socialise" when there is alcohol and music every time.

Would you say that it's easy to just mind your own business and study or is it really distracting with all the temptations around? If you had to give some important advice for a muslim going to uni, what advice would you give?

My dad is already freaking out about me going because he thinks it's going to be like a brothel... he said students don't always go out and they have parties inside most of the time.

Non Muslims, would you be bothered if a practising Muslim was in your hall? Someone who wears the hijab, prays, fasts etc?


I hope you and your family are not typical Muslims. You seem to be living in some sort of parallel country out of touch with the rest of Britain when you believe such nonsense about universities and the way non Muslims behave.

I suppose you are educated in terms of being able to do whatever subjects you are studying but wholly uneducated as to the country you live in and the people you share a country with.
Original post by Maker
I hope you and your family are not typical Muslims. You seem to be living in some sort of parallel country out of touch with the rest of Britain when you believe such nonsense about universities and the way non Muslims behave.

I suppose you are educated in terms of being able to do whatever subjects you are studying but wholly uneducated as to the country you live in and the people you share a country with.


I live in London, around every corner there is a pub or nightclub, every weekend I hear drunk people shouting and causing a fuss. I have a pretty good understanding of how typical people act when drunk.

I'm simply trying to educate myself and get an idea of what it will be like before I show up. I was basically asking Muslims for a review... yet most peopled who replied where not even Muslim.

If you were going to visit an Islamic country where you have no idea what to expect, would you also want to educate yourself and find out what you're getting into before turning up?

Don't take it personally :h:
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Original post by AishaGirl
I live in London, around every corner there is a pub or nightclub, every weekend I hear drunk people shouting and causing a fuss. I have a pretty good understanding of how typical people act when drunk.

I'm simply trying to educate myself and get an idea of what it will be like before I show up. I was basically asking Muslims for a review... yet most peopled who replied where not even Muslim.

If you were going to visit an Islamic country where you have no idea what to expect, would you also want to educate yourself and find out what you're getting into before turning up?

Don't take it personally :h:


How long have you lived in Britain?
Original post by AishaGirl
I was basically asking Muslims for a review... yet most peopled who replied where not even Muslim.


Your OP also asked for non-Muslims to reply:

Original post by AishaGirl
Non Muslims, would you be bothered if a practising Muslim was in your hall? Someone who wears the hijab, prays, fasts etc?


Even if you hadn't, most replies on almost any thread on TSR will be from non-Muslims because it isn't a Muslim site like UF, which would perhaps have been a better place to ask if you only wanted to hear from Muslims (which you didn't, as explained).

If you were going to visit an Islamic country where you have no idea what to expect, would you also want to educate yourself and find out what you're getting into before turning up?


A London university is the equivalent of a foreign country for someone who already lives in London? :rolleyes:
People underestimate how much experience varies depending on accommodation.

I have one friend who chose a campus to stay at with a quiet reputation. Their flat doesn't like to go partying and stuff. Neither does he. They usually chill together and play games and watch movies.

There's my flat who have alcohol and go out about once per week.

There's another friend who chose the really social accommodation who are constantly partying or doing drugs. But he doesn't mind cause they're his type of people anyway.

Basically the point I'm getting at is no answer will be that useful to you. If you're that concerned then just google the accommodation you're looking to go into.

If you're not moving out, the point is moot cause you'll only hang out with people you have similar interests with anyway. It's not like staying in halls where you're forced to be near them.
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Original post by Maker
How long have you lived in Britain?


I was born here.

Original post by Hydeman
Your OP also asked for non-Muslims to reply:
A London university is the equivalent of a foreign country for someone who already lives in London? :rolleyes:


I did already ask on UF but I wanted a bit of a broader scope of answers. Not the university, the environment inside is completely foreign to me. I just want to know what to expect. Have you ever been inside a mosque? Do you know what to expect? Probably not.

It's a shame so many people have taken this so personally, I just wanted to educate myself and calm my nerves / reassure myself. Seems like whenever you ask a question about a fundamental aspect of British culture you're shamed for not knowing about it because "you're British you should know these things" well I'm sorry I do not know...
Wouldn't bother me one bit so long as they didn't trash the kitchen, respected that I do not believe in religion as there is no scientific proof, or get angry if I ate bacon... no one tells me what I can or cannot eat
Original post by pairofjeans
Basically the point I'm getting at is no answer will be that useful to you. If you're that concerned then just google the accommodation you're looking to go into.


Yeah I watched some vlogging style videos yesterday, gave some a nice little insight. Imperial has ensuit too which I never knew about :smile:
Original post by Nadile
I don't party/drink/smoke/do drugs/act like a slut, I am not Muslim, and I have a large group of friends at uni. You don't need to do any of those things to have a social life and to have fun.

I seriously don't understand people freaking out about not being able to go through uni without doing all those "immoral" things, all this crap about temptations and pressure. Not a single person tried to pressure me into anything, and I don't see why something you don't want to do would tempt you. And if something did actually for some reason tempt you then you could like... I don't know, have self control?

Anyway, the main purpose of university is for you to learn and at the end to get your degree. You don't have to do anything else, people really need to understand that.

As for living with a muslim, as long as you don't get in my way or try to change the way I live to suit you better, I don't care what you are/do.


Exactly!x :biggrin:
Original post by Josb
Do you like feminism?


The better question is do you like feminism?
Original post by AishaGirl
I live in London, around every corner there is a pub or nightclub, every weekend I hear drunk people shouting and causing a fuss. I have a pretty good understanding of how typical people act when drunk.


No you don't.

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Original post by AishaGirl
I did already ask on UF but I wanted a bit of a broader scope of answers. Not the university, the environment inside is completely foreign to me. I just want to know what to expect. Have you ever been inside a mosque? Do you know what to expect? Probably not.


The Muslims here aren't all that different to the ones on UF - I looked at your UF thread and you got pretty much the same answers (from Muslims) here as you did there. :dontknow:

No, but I spent my formative years in the ME, so I doubt anything that goes on inside a mosque would come as a complete surprise to me. (Even without that, this again is not the best analogy because you don't need to have been in one to figure out that the main purpose of a mosque is worship.)

It's a shame so many people have taken this so personally, I just wanted to educate myself and calm my nerves / reassure myself. Seems like whenever you ask a question about a fundamental aspect of British culture you're shamed for not knowing about it because "you're British you should know these things" well I'm sorry I do not know...


That's fair enough, but surely you knew that some of the things you said about non-Muslims were inflammatory - you can't blame uni students for taking it personally when you referred to them as 'drunks falling all over each other while partying to Rihanna and sucking the saliva out of each others mouths.' It's a reasonable assumption that someone who lives in the UK would know that something so absurd is not a fundamental part of British culture.
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Original post by MrsSheldonCooper
I said decent jobs. Not any job.

Erm yes it is. It's not a problem if you're aspiring to be a breeding machine who stays at home after university. For someone who wants a high flying career and a good graduate job? It's a problem.


TBH a Muslim's aim shouldn't be to have a high flying career, its to please Allah
Original post by AishaGirl
Seems like whenever you ask a question about a fundamental aspect of British culture you're shamed for not knowing about it because "you're British you should know these things" well I'm sorry I do not know...


The same situation applies to people with Asperger syndrome even if they are as British as the bulldog. They are just expected to know XYZ about British culture - including unwritten rules - by default. If they ask certain questions about British culture then it provokes anger and bewilderment for not knowing it.

I have also wondered if people who rarely watch social type TV programmes are likely to end up socially deprived or have weaker social skills than people who watch them. Does Eastenders teach pub etiquette?
Original post by desaf1
TBH a Muslim's aim shouldn't be to have a high flying career, its to please Allah


It may be your aim. But to any normal person they'd pick a high flying career over a non existent being :smile:

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