Guys who don't go to the gym - is it a turn off for you?

Read my reply like 2 posts up. I don't juice, but none of the guys I know who juice have had long lasting problems. (and some of them are on 50/100 x normal testosterone levels)

If he did go to the gym, I would feel paranoid that he was secretly judging my flabby bits. I suppose it's not too bad because I do walk quite a distance everyday, and I'm by no means fat, but there are certain areas that could be a bit more toned.

EDIT: Really don't understand the negs here... Am I not allowed to have insecurities about my body?

If his body looks okay, then I really don't care whether or not he's had his flipping protein shakes.

It wouldn't be a particular turn off.

But it would definitely have plus points if he did! I'm a relatively active person myself. I go to the gym very often and I take good care of my body, so I'm attracted to guys who do the same.

This however, is not attractive. There's a difference between taking care of one's self and being 'built'

I wouldn't mind if they went gym or not. He just hasn't got to be fat, that's all.

Because they've taken so much steroids from an external source (something which is used to make testosterone, which is a steriod sex hormone) their body's start to drastically reduce the amount of testosterone it produces, (hence the noticably small penis in comparison to the whole body).
In addition, the whole endocrine system (which results in problems in androgen production). All in all, this causes severe and often permanent erectile dysfunction.

Moral of the story: Don't take steriods kids, makes you hench but useless else where.

Bit stereotypical. I don't have protein shakes,but I do have a lot of milk, but that's more out of habit, instead of saying "I need it"

I'd prefer not to be really built, but more to get toned

Yeah it's a good response. I was explaining from an endocriniology background. Leutinizing hormone is responsible for the production of testosterone so it's interesting to see that this too is changed.

dedication = obsessed in your opinion, ok thats you. Some people have drive and ambitions in life though.

You've just done the typical "women's logic" thing of thinking a general point (and a flippant one to boot) refers to what you do.

quite obviously not. The poster talked about obsession you replied saying "no its not obsession its dedication you wouldn't think anyone was "obsessed" with piano. YOU were the one who linked the two together about a post that was nothing about dedication but was about obsession. So I was talking about obsession. There is a line and many people do cross it.

Because they've taken so much steroids from an external source (something which is used to make testosterone, which is a steriod sex hormone) their body's start to drastically reduce the amount of testosterone it produces, (hence the noticably small penis in comparison to the whole body).
In addition, the whole endocrine system (which results in problems in androgen production). All in all, this causes severe and often permanent erectile dysfunction.

Moral of the story: Don't take steriods kids, makes you hench but useless else where.

She implied that any guys who are dedicated to the gym are obsessed whereas she wouldnt say the same about someone who studied hard for exampe.

There are no guys who are obsessed with the gym because anyone with any knowledge only goes there for like 5 hours a week.

obsessed was said with negative connotations in my opinion

i just think people are more biased because looks are involved, something to think about anyway.

she said its bad to be obsessed. it is. you are the one who linked it to thinking anyone with any dedication is obsessed. I think you have a chip on your shoulder and are getting defensive for no reason.

"because anyone with any knowedge" doesn't follow as a reason to support "there are no guys who are obsessed" plenty of people have little to no knowlage

and yes of course obsessed was used with negative connotations it generally is.

I don't care what someone is obsessed with if I think they cross the line from being dedicated to it to being obsessed with it then I will find that an unattractive trait.

the penis doesnt shrink

it would looks smaller because their bodies are twice the size as a normal guy *facepalm*

wow, what a fail of logic.

Let me guess you've never been in a gym and are very insecure about your body?

yes looking better is one of the perks of gaining muscle but thats not its sole purpose.

People go to the gym to build up their body or gain strength, how is that different than playing good music? people have a goal of having the best body they can get or as big as they can get and dont care if people think it looks or not.

so someone doing something they enjoy = vain.

dont be biased just because looks comes into the equation.

thats the same reason why fat people arent looked down upon as the same as smokers. in the end you are the one who is placing so much value on looks.

if you arent dedicated at what you do then dont bother doing them, going to the gym and half assing it achieves nothing.

edit: 1 more point... i want the best car i can get

i want the best body i can get ... how are these different?

As title says. I was just wondering about this and I thought it would be good to ask TSR.

I'm not being biased about anything. This question is asking about looks, so I gave an opinion. I happen not to be attracted to vain guys...guys who constantly check their hair and - in this context - always talk about muscle building programs and are constantly going to the gym.

Perhaps you go to the gym and really enjoy it - that's great. Maybe that's why you're going on at me about it.
I don't have a problem if people want to be fitter etc. and I understand it takes dedication. However, this question wasn't asking about people's hobbies and the person wasn't expressing any desire to become fitter. He was asking if people would find him unattractive if he didn't go to the gym...To me if someone who was only going to the gym to 'get the ladies' then I would find that unattractive as he is only doing it for his looks - which could (depending on the degree) be described as vain.
If someone enjoys going to the gym, and wants to become more muscular, then I'm all for it! That will require dedication.