Sister caught on speed camera and has no license. What will happen?

She is insured.

Are you wanting to take the fall for her? She knew what she was doing, she deserves the charges she faces.


i'd imagine she'd be required to return to the UK for the court summon, they're not going to be like "oh well, she's abroad so we'll just forget about it"

i'd imagine she'd be required to return to the UK for the court summon, they're not going to be like "oh well, she's abroad so we'll just forget about it"

Thanks for the help. Apparently I think its best to wait and decide, if I get the photographic evidence, and it seems acceptable, I will **assume that I must have been speeding and not realised I got flashed and pay my fine**.

What if no one replies and we are both not in the UK (if it takes really long this could happen)?

She's not going to be 'required' by extradition to return to the UK. But when she lands at the airport her passport may be flagged and she may be arrested at this point.

You mean that Canada would remove her to the UK for a traffic violation. And what if we are both not there and no longer have a residence in the UK.

So if both of us aren't there and don't respond to the letter, they will assume I was speeding and she can go back but not me if I understand well?

My sister was driving my car and she says she thinks a camera flashed as she passed and she was above the limit. She currently has no license but is going for a test soon.

What will happen from now on? Will I have to pay the fine?

I've already had motor related trouble myself and currently have 4 points for speeding and following an accident I got "Driving without due care and attention" but that was removed after a court battle.

So will I get a fixed penalty notice by mail and have to pay that?

Thanks for the help. Apparently I think its best to wait and decide, if I get the photographic evidence, and it seems acceptable, I will **assume that I must have been speeding and not realised I got flashed and pay my fine**.

What if no one replies and we are both not in the UK (if it takes really long this could happen)?

They won't dispute the picture unless you ask them to. They will assume it was you, unless you request a picture of the camera so you can say it was my husband driving etc.

You can't just pay your fine, you're going to lose your license as you'll have another 3 points + the fine for speeding.

OR, your sister gets a load of fines and a ban.

I don't mind taking the ban in that case, then my sister can drive me. And I won't need a UK license by then anyways if I'm in Canada.

I don't mind taking the ban in that case

She won't be able to drive you ****ing hell You won't have a valid licence and you haven't been driving for 3 years/over 21. She would still be illegally driving.

I disagree with quite a lot of that. You wont receive a ticket for £60 and 3 points without admitting liability for either you or your sister first. So point 2 is invalid.

And you wont get a summons for allowing someone to drive without insurance. That's not your concern. You gave her consent to drive your vehicle, whether she does so legally or illegally is not within your power or control. You know she is able to drive the car legally, if she is with a valid passenger, as far as that goes, whether she opts to drive with such passenger isn't your concern (legally).

You can just say you gave her permission to drive the car, and whether she does so legally or illegally is not you problem. You've given consent and that's that.

The ticket goes to the registered keeper. She either pays the fine, or says who was driving. So I don't see what you're getting at here.

And I'm afraid it is. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/143

The onus is on the registered keeper in this case to prove that while she gave permission, she took reasonable steps to ensure that it would be insured in the proper way.

I assume she means once she's passed her test.

Considering how stupid her and her sister come across then I wouldn't be surprised to see her posting another thread in the very near future about her sister being caught again.

But she would not be served with a £60 and 3 points, without admitting liability first.



To your other point, liability would be admitted under S.143(3)(c)
that he neither knew nor had reason to believe that there was not in force in relation to the vehicle such a policy of insurance or security as is mentioned in subsection (1) above.

Meh. I don't see why everyone is taking the moral high ground. I've done worse in the past... Nobody is an angel.

Meh. I don't see why everyone is taking the moral high ground. I've done worse in the past... Nobody is an angel.