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Original post by fat_hobbit
TBH I wish women on TSR will help the OP by posting.
This thread has turned into a cockfest, which ironically mirrors his life to date.
This thread has turned into a cockfest, which ironically mirrors his life to date.
I guess girls don't respond well to being called hypergamous shallow sluts, and the fact he thinks that is what they are is probably not helping him.
Original post by what is this
What's his looks rating/10?
Not surprised if he's anything at a 7 or above.
Not surprised if he's anything at a 7 or above.
Knowing how good looking he is , won't help you pull.
Stop comparing yourself to others.
Play the ugly man game. Tom ford has family members who are ugly and play the ugly man game successfully.
Original post by lucaf
I guess girls don't respond well to being called hypergamous shallow sluts, and the fact he thinks that is what they are is probably not helping him.
True. I like women tbh, they are nicer to me than men are.
Original post by fat_hobbit
You have to play the ugly man game, I play it , because I am ugly. Hence why I am called fat hobbit on here.
Tried tested.
Make friends.
Meet a lot of women.
Use your charm, charisma.
Date one.
BUT to do that, YOU NEED TO GO OUT AND MAKE FRIENDS.
Tried tested.
Make friends.
Meet a lot of women.
Use your charm, charisma.
Date one.
BUT to do that, YOU NEED TO GO OUT AND MAKE FRIENDS.
But what happens when there are good looking guys in the social circle. Why should she stay with you and not the 8/10 guy?
Original post by Tom_Ford
True. I like women tbh, they are nicer to me than men are.
Confirmed you are 7+/10 then.
Women are really caring towards such guys. Dirty ugly ethnikcels like me are subhuman thrash to women, even ethnic women.
**** this world.
I don't need women or anyone to succeed. MY only goal in life now is to make money and fly off to a poor country a live like a king in a mansion.
Original post by what is this
But what happens when there are good looking guys in the social circle. Why should she stay with you and not the 8/10 guy?
You need value, and need to create an emotional dependency based on that.
Tom Ford's relative does this through money. He is basically the ugly version of Patrick Bateman.
Original post by fat_hobbit
You have to play the ugly man game, I play it , because I am ugly. Hence why I am called fat hobbit on here.
Tried tested.
Make friends.
Meet a lot of women.
Use your charm, charisma.
Date one.
BUT to do that, YOU NEED TO GO OUT AND MAKE FRIENDS.
Tried tested.
Make friends.
Meet a lot of women.
Use your charm, charisma.
Date one.
BUT to do that, YOU NEED TO GO OUT AND MAKE FRIENDS.
Yeah, and you were dating a hot Russian redhead. Who turned out to be a ****, but, still, you were ****ing a Ruski lol.
Original post by fat_hobbit
Tom Ford does pull. It's true.
And the worse thing is, he hasnt got a grad job yet.
And the worse thing is, he hasnt got a grad job yet.
Tom Ford, know his ****, certain things you can't BS. You only get those experiences from actually doing it. I feel for the husband (not) haha.
Original post by what is this
Confirmed you are 7+/10 then.
Women are really caring towards such guys. Dirty ugly ethnikcels like me are subhuman thrash to women, even ethnic women.
**** this world.
I don't need women or anyone to succeed. MY only goal in life now is to make money and fly off to a poor country a live like a king in a mansion.
Women are really caring towards such guys. Dirty ugly ethnikcels like me are subhuman thrash to women, even ethnic women.
**** this world.
I don't need women or anyone to succeed. MY only goal in life now is to make money and fly off to a poor country a live like a king in a mansion.
You can do that in eastern europe without having to go far, start off with these places not enough men to marry women. Its like slave pickings, best places, ukraine, romania, hungary and russia ofc.
Original post by what is this
But what happens when there are good looking guys in the social circle. Why should she stay with you and not the 8/10 guy?
he has already has a girlfriend, you asked and he didn't.
Or just she gets on with you better, women are not mindless sex bots.
Original post by Tom_Ford
True. I like women tbh, they are nicer to me than men are.
Yep, my course at uni is mostly women so most of my friends there are women. And surprisingly they are basically people too!
Original post by Tom_Ford
Yeah, and you were dating a hot Russian redhead. Who turned out to be a ****, but, still, you were ****ing a Ruski lol.
It's funny when I was dating her, she used to tell me in private:
"there was this ugly brown man chasing me around the club"
Thats what the OP does not get, if you are unattractive, the only way you are going to make these girls (especially with prejudices like that) to be into you, is only after they get to know you. I'm quite charming when I am given an inch.
If I had met her in a club, I probably would have been that guy for her. "the ugly brown man"
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Original post by SloaneRanger
You can do that in eastern europe without having to go far, start off with these places not enough men to marry women. Its like slave pickings, best places, ukraine, romania, hungary and russia ofc.
Lol so basically one of the most racist places on Earth? They'll treat me worse than here.
although I have heard about how Polish women really like Southern European/Middle East guys and my skin colour is like that just darker. Maybe that game can work in some Eastern European countries where the population is very homogeneous. Still that could have been a possibility if I looked average, I'm not even average FML.
Original post by SloaneRanger
You can do that in eastern europe without having to go far, start off with these places not enough men to marry women. Its like slave pickings, best places, ukraine, romania, hungary and russia ofc.
What is it with brown guys and eastern europeans.
always find they are more receptive towards me too.
Original post by what is this
Lol so basically one of the most racist places on Earth? They'll treat me worse than here.
although I have heard about how Polish women really like Southern European/Middle East guys and my skin colour is like that just darker. Maybe that game can work in some Eastern European countries where the population is very homogeneous. Still that could have been a possibility if I looked average, I'm not even average FML.
although I have heard about how Polish women really like Southern European/Middle East guys and my skin colour is like that just darker. Maybe that game can work in some Eastern European countries where the population is very homogeneous. Still that could have been a possibility if I looked average, I'm not even average FML.
Staying at home and posting on TSR won't get any Polish girl into you.
Original post by fat_hobbit
TBH I wish women on TSR will help the OP by posting.
This thread has turned into a cockfest, which ironically mirrors his life to date.
This thread has turned into a cockfest, which ironically mirrors his life to date.
I think they tried at the start and were basically told they were lying, shallow bitches, and that apparently 99% of us are massive slags. Can't imagine why that might put anyone off.
I think one key sentence the OP missed from one of the article he linked to in the first post is "Across all three levels of requestor attractiveness, men were more likely to go out, go to their apartment and go to bed with them than were women." So it's not just that women are being pickier about looks, it's that women are less interested in sex with strangers full stop. If men want casual sex more than women, some of them are going to be disappointed. This is not the fault of men for wanting it, but nor is it the fault of women for not wanting it. Sex should be something mutual that both parties want, it's not a "favour" bestowed by women on men.
khalmi
If social change happens that would make things like 50+ years ago, then it will all change, 1 man for 1 women kinda thing, people would settle for their looks grade and marry. Now because of the difference in sexuality between genders, women have a far easier time in the dating scene. If 80% of men like thy claim(yeah that is pretty inflated) are deprived of sex, trust me something will happen.
First of all, that isn't what the OP wants, he wants to have sex with lots of women. And the fact they don't want to makes THEM the ones with the problem, obviously.
Secondly, people still had affairs 50 years ago, especially men. And women were the ones who had to settle, particularly as the young male population had been decimated 10 years previously by WW2.
Thirdly, again, how on earth is shooting people going to make women want to have sex with men?
Original post by fat_hobbit
It's funny when I was dating her, she used to tell me in private:
"there was this ugly brown man chasing me around the club"
Thats what the OP does not get, if you are unattractive, the only way you are going to make these girls (especially with prejudices like that) to be into you, is only after they get to know you. I'm quite charming when I am given an inch.
If I had met her in a club, I probably would have been that guy for her. "the ugly brown man"
"there was this ugly brown man chasing me around the club"
Thats what the OP does not get, if you are unattractive, the only way you are going to make these girls (especially with prejudices like that) to be into you, is only after they get to know you. I'm quite charming when I am given an inch.
If I had met her in a club, I probably would have been that guy for her. "the ugly brown man"
Yeah, that type of quote shows the dehumanisation of the 'ugly' ethnic. You are not given human treatment. If you are in such a position you have to show her you are a respectable human being first because these prejudices are from negative assumptions. It's sad really.
Original post by Tom_Ford
Yeah, that type of quote shows the dehumanisation of the 'ugly' ethnic. You are not given human treatment. If you are in such a position you have to show her you are a respectable human being first because these prejudices are from negative assumptions. It's sad really.
Yeah, that;s why I can understand the OP's frustration to some degree.
It almost feels like we have to overcompensate because we are not the right race/face does not fit.
The things these girls say in private is shocking.
Also have heard girls in private tell me, how they put guys in a ranking order by desirability.
Italians, French, Spanish etc at the top, with generally indians being at the bottom.
Of course they won't admit it publicly on here, but when you sleep with them and are chatting to them in private you hear it.
BUT WITH ALL THAT SAID OP.
IT DIDN'T HOLD ME BACK. So there is hope for you.
Original post by what is this
Lol so basically one of the most racist places on Earth? They'll treat me worse than here.
although I have heard about how Polish women really like Southern European/Middle East guys and my skin colour is like that just darker. Maybe that game can work in some Eastern European countries where the population is very homogeneous. Still that could have been a possibility if I looked average, I'm not even average FML.
although I have heard about how Polish women really like Southern European/Middle East guys and my skin colour is like that just darker. Maybe that game can work in some Eastern European countries where the population is very homogeneous. Still that could have been a possibility if I looked average, I'm not even average FML.
Not at all, ive only date eastern europeans recent, they treat me like god. You have more then them , its about positioning value, your and asset. They are a liability, its about working out what someone wants. Many of these families just want financial stability in the west. Ive been to so many deprived places across eastern europe, " people buy from people". If your able to relate to people you can change them to your way of thinking. Ive been to a few Cluj football games in the ultra end, nothing happened to me. Good experience, but you have a brain and education, use it to your advantage. Facebook is one way of talking to new people, i know so many social media sites from other countries and i only speak english fluently,lol. PM for links.
Original post by fat_hobbit
Yeah, that;s why I can understand the OP's frustration to some degree.
It almost feels like we have to overcompensate because we are not the right race/face does not fit.
The things these girls say in private is shocking.
Also have heard girls in private tell me, how they put guys in a ranking order by desirability.
Italians, French, Spanish etc at the top, with generally indians being at the bottom.
Of course they won't admit it publicly on here, but when you sleep with them and are chatting to them in private you hear it.
BUT WITH ALL THAT SAID OP.
IT DIDN'T HOLD ME BACK. So there is hope for you.
It almost feels like we have to overcompensate because we are not the right race/face does not fit.
The things these girls say in private is shocking.
Also have heard girls in private tell me, how they put guys in a ranking order by desirability.
Italians, French, Spanish etc at the top, with generally indians being at the bottom.
Of course they won't admit it publicly on here, but when you sleep with them and are chatting to them in private you hear it.
BUT WITH ALL THAT SAID OP.
IT DIDN'T HOLD ME BACK. So there is hope for you.
hehehe that is good news
although when they say that they tend to be forgetting how short us italians normally are 
Original post by what is this
Well yeah they're quite good looking but nothing extraordinary. I think the only ethnic group of men who can have large success are black guys; they basically need to be big and ripped and just run BBC game
Well yeah they're quite good looking but nothing extraordinary. I think the only ethnic group of men who can have large success are black guys; they basically need to be big and ripped and just run BBC game
Ah, black men. Top of the chain, every time... are they a symbol of rebellion or something? I keep seeing girls falling head over feet over heels over pavement for my brother. Like, holy hell.
Completely agree with you on the ethnic front though. The results in the American study are truly shocking IMO ($240k extra a year for being east asian? What in the...) and so often I hear from girls "I'm not attracted to guys of my own race. I like white guys. What about you? Do you agree? Do you like white or black guys?" Yes dearie, because the world only exists in black/your own ethnicity and white. Please.
You see, once you say that I instantly think you're holding out for the perfect looking white guy, who's 6'0''+ tall, makes good money etc.
Not at all - in fact I'm very particular about personality. Probably more so than others. If there's a slight flaw that stands out to me, even if everyone else thinks it's a minor issue, it's a deal breaker to me. I hate to comprimise. I actually care little about money (or material possessions in general) and what I consider "perfect" looking (or close) is pretty subjective. For me, Taboo from BEP is close. Many, many other girls will beg to differ. Personality, belief system, the way he treats other people, whether or not he bad mouths people often, generosity/charitability, reliability, loyalty, interest in the arts and academia, fashion sense, those are all important in a relationship.
Now in a club, obviously you know nothing of the other person's character at all. So if I'm going to hook up with them, they better have the face of Zeus.
I've already accepted my place as genetic thrash. I don't harbour any bitterness towards women or the guys getting women [although I know it does come across like that in my posts but most of the time I'm just venting for the sake of it]. In fact the past year [my last year of uni] I had already given up finding a woman and didn't spend much time socialising with anyone. I now just like my own free time spent in the gym, reading books [huge fan of literature], researching history [I have a huge fascination with antiquity history and all the great men it fostered] amongst a few other hobbies I have time for. So as you can see I'm pretty cultured and have a wide array of knowledge in science [STEM graduate from a top 5 uni].
At least, it's good that you're not bitter.
From what I see you're happy with where you are now, you have a range of interests, and your life doesn't revolve around women. Do remember though that not all of us will have been hooking up constantly by the age of 25+, so don't assume so straight away on first appearances. That being said, if I were in your position, I wouldn't settle for anything less than what I thought I was worth, only go with a girl who's intentions are genuine, one who doesn't feel like she is settling just so she can have a stable emotional relationship through marriage. I can't give you any advice on how to actually get a relationhip cause, well, I haven't been in one either
What I have noticed though, strangely, is that all the pretty female celebrities you see have really rocky relationships. Even the beauty idols, will experience some sort of crushing heartbreak. Beauty doesn't buy you happiness, eh. It's the average couples who marry for life.
Out of interest, what do you consider a 5/10 girl to look like? I've always wondered what average truly was.
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