Why do people dislike the left?

Can you give me an example of ideas and belief that are inconsistent and contain double standards?
(Lol this sounds rude but I just want to have some sort of evaluation for the leftists)

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Racism is viewed as a thing that happens directed by a white person towards a non-white person. I think this is a toxic thing to carry forward, it is not difficult to just condemn all racial prejudice (which is synonymous with racism despite attempts to rewrite the definition) equally.

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It is viewed as acceptable for women to hold negative attitudes towards men due to negative experiences with men, (this fuels some internalised biphobia, etc.) but unacceptable for men to hold negative attitudes towards women due to negative experiences with women. (they may be branded an incel, etc.) I don't think the fact that more/most women have had negative experiences with men changes anything, and frankly for a movement meant to champion minorities I'm shocked that "yeah but that doesn't happen nearly as often" is considered a valid argument.

Stuff like that.

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Malaysia_

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Original post by Stark°3000

First of all, who are the left?/What makes someone a leftist?

Because the lefts are a bunch of sensitive snowflakes.

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So from what I gathered, leftist- people who believe that there is a ruling class in society and the free market exploits them, they want gender equality, support LGBTQ community, want more progressive taxes and government intervention?

Liberal- they support LGBTQ community, want gender equality, but do think that there are benefits to keeping capatilst markets/free markets and don't want as much government intervention as leftists?

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Wanttobreakfree

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Original post by Malaysia_

Because the lefts are a bunch of sensitive snowflakes.

What does that even mean outside of an objective logically fallacious ad-hominem and false dichotomy attack? Come on friend at least let's have a good faith dialogue here. You've seen Q-anon right?

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vapordave

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Percieved hypocrisy.

I think it's a shame that these views represent such a diverse group of ideologies, so I hope we can move past them soon.

Original post by Stark°3000

So from what I gathered, leftist- people who believe that there is a ruling class in society and the free market exploits them, they want gender equality, support LGBTQ community, want more progressive taxes and government intervention?

Liberal- they support LGBTQ community, want gender equality, but do think that there are benefits to keeping capatilst markets/free markets and aren't too keen on Government intervention?

Basically yes

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Original post by Vapordave

Because

Basically yes

Aaaaaaye! Thank you so much 😊

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Original post by _gcx

Sure:

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Racism is viewed as a thing that happens directed by a white person towards a non-white person. I think this is a toxic thing to carry forward, it is not difficult to just condemn all racial prejudice (which is synonymous with racism despite attempts to rewrite the definition) equally.

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It is viewed as acceptable for women to hold negative attitudes towards men due to negative experiences with men, (this fuels some internalised biphobia, etc.) but not as acceptable for men to hold negative attitudes towards women due to negative experiences with women. (they may be branded an incel, etc.) I don't think the fact that more/most women have had negative experiences with men changes anything, and frankly for a movement meant to champion minorities I'm shocked that "yeah but that doesn't happen nearly as often" is considered a valid argument.

Stuff like that.

Aaaah, I see! Fair enough 😁

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no? people with left-handed can have many friends as well, I am left-handed but people do not dislike me...

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Original post by _gcx

Sure:

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Racism is viewed as a thing that happens directed by a white person towards a non-white person. I think this is a toxic thing to carry forward, it is not difficult to just condemn all racial prejudice (which is synonymous with racism despite attempts to rewrite the definition) equally.

•

It is viewed as acceptable for women to hold negative attitudes towards men due to negative experiences with men, (this fuels some internalised biphobia, etc.) but not as acceptable for men to hold negative attitudes towards women due to negative experiences with women. (they may be branded an incel, etc.) I don't think the fact that more/most women have had negative experiences with men changes anything, and frankly for a movement meant to champion minorities I'm shocked that "yeah but that doesn't happen nearly as often" is considered a valid argument.

Stuff like that.

You don't understand racism or sexism then.

I'm not particularly left leaning politically. The above is not about left or right - its about you not understanding when skin colour is considered more important than other characteristics. Have you not ever wondered that?

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Original post by Wanttobreakfree

Oh I don't mean to say you're Conservative. I'm just more pointing that this mindset can make people susceptible to right wing propaganda. I've talked to people on various political Discords where they've experienced this. Although I'd say that the Liberal Democrats are soft Tories whereas the new crop of Tories are Paleoconservative. Probably not all, but they're clearly trying to copy out of Trump's play-book. I don't see the point of the Liberal Democrats under FPTP their goose will always be cooked and they've done a lot to mutually screw over students helping Tories put tuition fees on higher educational institutions. Of course though if they're the most likely to win in your area via way of polls then that's understandable. Also you'll find a lot of lefties don't like how Keir Starmer is managing Labour. He's fractured the base.

My friend described Keir Starmer as secretly a Tory, would you agree with this statement?
My teacher also said that blue (conservative) is the new red (labour), would you also agree with this statement?
Who do you think should be in charge of the labour party and why do you think it's less appealing nowadays?

Sorry I find you interesting so I wanna know what u think 😁✌️

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Original post by Wanttobreakfree

Oh I don't mean to say you're Conservative. I'm just more pointing that this mindset can make people susceptible to right wing propaganda. I've talked to people on various political Discords where they've experienced this. Although I'd say that the Liberal Democrats are soft Tories whereas the new crop of Tories are Paleoconservative. Probably not all, but they're clearly trying to copy out of Trump's play-book. I don't see the point of the Liberal Democrats under FPTP their goose will always be cooked and they've done a lot to mutually screw over students helping Tories put tuition fees on higher educational institutions. Of course though if they're the most likely to win in your area via way of polls then that's understandable. Also you'll find a lot of lefties don't like how Keir Starmer is managing Labour. He's fractured the base.

I'd vote for libdems mainly because I'm repelled so much by Starmer and a lot of labour voters (seems silly to say considering it's like half the country), and because they're the only party brave enough to actively push for drug reforms.

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Original post by Malaysia_

Because the lefts are a bunch of sensitive snowflakes.

And the right aren't? Seriously, the amount of times I've seen people cry over boys wearing dresses, gay people being in a happy relationship, BLM, pronouns and any other form of social progression is laughable.

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Original post by finlay291202

And the right aren't? Seriously, the amount of times I've seen people cry over boys wearing dresses, gay people being in a happy relationship, BLM, pronouns and any other form of social progression is laughable.

I can't lie that is true 😭👀

Original post by nexttime

You don't understand racism or sexism then.

I'm not particularly left leaning politically. The above is not about left or right - its about you not understanding when skin colour is considered more important than other characteristics. Have you not ever wondered that?

Elaborate. I understand racism as prejudice based on race, and sexism as prejudice based on sex/gender identity. My post does not contradict that.

Claiming I'm less educated/aware because I disagree with you is one of the characteristics that annoy me I did not mention, for what it's worth. I have not seen as many on the right do that.

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Original post by finlay291202

And the right aren't? Seriously, the amount of times I've seen people cry over boys wearing dresses, gay people being in a happy relationship, BLM, pronouns and any other form of social progression is laughable.

don't forget vegan sausage rolls

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Original post by Wanttobreakfree

What does that even mean outside of an objective logically fallacious ad-hominem and false dichotomy attack? Come on friend at least let's have a good faith dialogue here. You've seen Q-anon right?

well the left is the authority on logically fallacious ad-hominems, but go off.

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Wanttobreakfree

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Original post by Stark°3000

My friend described Keir Starmer as secretly a Tory, would you agree with this statement?
My teacher also said that blue (conservative) is the new red (labour), would you also agree with this statement?
Who do you think should be in charge of the labour party and why do you think it's less appealing nowadays?

Sorry I find you interesting so I wanna know what u think 😁✌️

He's most certainly someone (expected from someone of knighted status under the most corrupt monarchies on Earth in the so called: 'first world') that has no interest in attacking the power structures that ensure both his and Tories donors are happy. I think we need to change Labour from the outside and by that I mean we need young people to get into union positions then use those union institutions to peer-pressure Labour on electoral grounds. If youth can get the message out on how Labour is neglecting its duties - watch them U-turn faster than The Tories.

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Original post by Vapordave

don't forget vegan sausage rolls

No one on the right was even upset about sausage rolls. Piers Morgan’s personality is an ITV puppet used to generate controversy in order to attract views and have something to talk about, and does not really represent most “right wing” people’s views. I don’t think he believed half of what he’s said, and long term acquaintances of his have said the same.