Explain why someone should go to work and earn what they could get on benefits?

Because I've never really understood why so many workers get angry when they hear about people who arent looking for work and claiming benefits.

And so long as there are a great many people such as SR90 who clearly suffer if they don't have meaningful employment then surely it's incumbent on people like me to not compete?

I don't know what your living situation is, but even if you live alone I'm sure you can imagine a hypothetical scenario of you sharing living arrangements with another person. Now let us say you wash the dishes. The other person comes along, uses some of them after you've done the work to wash them. They then put them back and leave them with the expectation of you washing them again after them.

The dishes need washing and you continue to do that work otherwise, you don't have clean dishes yourself, but that other person has no inclination to contribute in any meaningful way because they know you are there picking up their slack.

Is that an acceptable arrangement to you or are the other person's actions selfish, lazy, and antisocial?

Because that is what a person who chooses to live on benefit is doing to productive people who pay tax into our social system. Benefits are meant to be there for when they are needed, not for people who choose to take them because it's preferable to working. When a person needs benefits we as a society are enriched morally by having the compassion to support them. When a person takes benefits through choice they are a drain with no net benefit to society. I wouldn't want to be a person who made the world a worse place by existing.



Yeah, unless you have a mental illness I don't believe you sincerely believe that rationale. You're either simply trolling the conversation or deriding a perverse pleasure at mocking the people who provide the support infrastructure you are dependent on.

I genuinely see no problem at all with people choos9ng not to work in a rich country.

Because benefits should be for those who are actually in need and not those who can't be bothered to do any job for a pay. Maybe if we had less people abusing the system, those who are in need could maybe even get a bit more money than they currently get.

It's just annoying when people brag about how cool they are and that changing bed sheets in a hotel for a minimum wage is way below their league, yet they are the ones who actually are below anything because they refuse to work and instead choose to put a bad name onto those genuine human beings.

You should be thankful more people don't have your mindset otherwise people like you would not be able to survive.





Agreed. I have a thousand times more respect for a toilet cleaner then I do a benefits scrounger.

I genuinely see no problem at all with people choos9ng not to work in a rich country.

You should be thankful more people don't have your mindset otherwise people like you would not be able to survive.





Agreed. I have a thousand times more respect for a toilet cleaner then I do a benefits scrounger.

isnt there always somewhere to house them though?
I've never heard of a family living on the streets. It's usually a single person or a couple with no children

How much respect would you give to a toilet cleaner who used to be a benefits scrounger?

Have you ever heard of the housing crisis?

Does that go for who are in ESA or pensioners?

isnt there always somewhere to house them though?
I've never heard of a family living on the streets. It's usually a single person or a couple with no children

Tell me please, Im seeing no value in employment anymore on a grad salary that isnt that less than a non grad salary. To earn 30k these days you gotta be a rocket scientist, the jobs I see on indeed want you to have experience in this and that and have a degree and then want to pay you 20k??


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What housing crisis?

The respect they deserve. They got off their bottoms and work, they contribute to the society they live in.

There is absolutely nothing shameful about cleaning toilets or picking up litter for a job, there is everything shameful about choosing not to work because you're too lazy and you have no problem spending other peoples money.





What housing crisis?




What is ESA? Is that disability benefit? Then no of course not... if they are too old to work or are disabled then they should of course receive help from the government.

How much respect would you give to a toilet cleaner who used to be a benefits scrounger?

Personal pride and prospects of doing better for themselves.

Dear me. I didn't mean that toilet cleaners don't deserve respect.

Jeez,I can list at least 100 jobs that I have less respect for than toilet cleaner apart from anything else. Obviously lawyer would be top.

No ,the point I was making was that today's benefits scrounger is tomorrow's toilet cleaner.

And so when you said you have 1000 x more respect for toilet cleaners I wondered if you realised that some of them are ex benefits scroungers

Or even crims!

Have you ever heard of the housing crisis?