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    say I have offers from 2 universities
    birmingham - accounting and finance
    Southampton - accoutning and finance with a year in industry

    personally, Birmingham would be my number one choice taking the course, place..ect into account
    but, Southampton has a year in industry which may be more beneficial for me in the long run...
    what would you suggest??
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    Can't you just defer for a year to do a year in industry at Birmingham? That would also save you the tuition fee for that year.
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    (Original post by Student-95)
    Can't you just defer for a year to do a year in industry at Birmingham? That would also save you the tuition fee for that year.
    defer for a year? How does that work? is it after the first year/second year is finished?
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    defer for a year? How does that work? is it after the first year/second year is finished?
    Basically just take a year out and the uni will suspend your studies then you carry on at the start of the following year. Up to you when you do it, most people do a placement at the end of their penultimate year.
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    (Original post by Student-95)
    Can't you just defer for a year to do a year in industry at Birmingham? That would also save you the tuition fee for that year.
    You don't pay full fees for a placement year - just an amount to cover admin/visit.
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    (Original post by Muttley79)
    You don't pay full fees for a placement year - just an amount to cover admin/visit.
    Yes, so you still pay a tuition fee which would be avoided. (£1850 for Southampton)
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    (Original post by Student-95)
    Yes, so you still pay a tuition fee which would be avoided. (£1850 for Southampton)
    You are earning approx £18K though - the fee is much less at other unis.
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    (Original post by Muttley79)
    You are earning approx £18K though - the fee is much less at other unis.
    So? You're earning money either way... We are comparing paying money vs paying nothing. The latter is obviously better.
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    (Original post by Student-95)
    So? You're earning money either way... We are comparing paying money vs paying nothing. The latter is obviously better.
    Not necessarily. At Loughborough you get a qualification from your year in industry. Your year in industry is far more likely to be linked to your degree and feed into your dissertation.
    It's not that simple ...
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    (Original post by Muttley79)
    Not necessarily. At Loughborough you get a qualification from your year in industry. Your year in industry is far more likely to be linked to your degree and feed into your dissertation.
    It's not that simple ...
    Yes it is. The qualification is of very little value. The real value of the year in industry is the experience you gain which you get either way. It's not more likely to link to your degree at all. In either case, the placement you get will depend on what you were able to secure. If you find and are accepted on a super relevant placement, you can do that regardless of whether or not you're taking a year out or doing it as part of the course.
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    (Original post by Student-95)
    Yes it is. The qualification is of very little value. The real value of the year in industry is the experience you gain which you get either way. It's not more likely to link to your degree at all. In either case, the placement you get will depend on what you were able to secure. If you find and are accepted on a super relevant placement, you can do that regardless of whether or not you're taking a year out or doing it as part of the course.
    Sorry you are just wrong - the benefit from an official 'placement' year is far more than a random job. The best opportunities will be placements.

    I've seen many of my ex-students go through uni so I think I probably have a better graps on this.

    Not many unis are happy about a year's break that isn't 'official'.
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    (Original post by Muttley79)
    Sorry you are just wrong - the benefit from an official 'placement' year is far more than a random job. The best opportunities will be placements.

    I've seen many of my ex-students go through uni so I think I probably have a better graps on this.

    Not many unis are happy about a year's break that isn't 'official'.
    What are you talking about? Who said anything about a 'random job'? You are doing a placement year either way, either as part of the course or during a year out. The job itself will be exactly the same in either scenario.
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    (Original post by Student-95)
    What are you talking about? Who said anything about a 'random job'? You are doing a placement year either way, either as part of the course or during a year out. The job itself will be exactly the same in either scenario.
    That's where you are wrong - some opportunities are only available through official placements. Companies want people who are being partly 'looked' after by uni - for example, tutor visits during the year.
    Please don't mislead people .... the same sort of jobs will just NOT be available even if the uni agrees to a year off which most won't anyway.
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    (Original post by Muttley79)
    That's where you are wrong - some opportunities are only available through official placements. Companies want people who are being partly 'looked' after by uni - for example, tutor visits during the year.
    Please don't mislead people .... the same sort of jobs will just NOT be available even if the uni agrees to a year off which most won't anyway.
    I have not come across a single opportunity that will only accept people doing it as part of their course. If they exist they are definitely the minority and I would question the support the company provides if they insist on the uni looking after you.
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    (Original post by Student-95)
    I have not come across a single opportunity that will only accept people doing it as part of their course. If they exist they are definitely the minority and I would question the support the company provides if they insist on the uni looking after you.
    The placement opportunities JUST WILL NOT accept anyone else. They want references from uni etc. and ongoing support.

    Show me a placement that says you don't need to be on an 'official' placement .. if you want a job do that as a gap year.
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    (Original post by Muttley79)
    The placement opportunities JUST WILL NOT accept anyone else. They want references from uni etc. and ongoing support.

    Show me a placement that says you don't need to be on an 'official' placement .. if you want a job do that as a gap year.
    Lol, of course they will. You can get an academic reference either way... The 'ongoing support' will be minimal in most cases and only really useful if you're having problems and want the uni to liaise. I had 2 visits and a Skype call on my 12 month placement. That was the extent of this crucial 'support'.

    Show me one that does... Standard requirements will be a predicted grade of 2:1, some might specify the degree depending on the placement and the right to work in the UK. Also some might specify the number of years you've completed or that you're in your penultimate year.

    There is practically no difference between what you're calling an 'official' placement and doing as a year out. Someone from the uni will come and visit a couple of times lol, why would an employer consider that essential?
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