Tim Farron says he regrets saying gay sex is not a sin

Original post by So-Sarah

the Lib Dems hate Ukip and Leave voters, hence Lib Dems should be banned - that just about sums up the snowflake left

So you want to ban a political party because they don't agree with your opinions?

You sound like a snowflake.

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Bang Outta Order

Original post by FriendlyPenguin

People with offensive views shouldn't be allowed to be MPs.

And do what? Give them a personality test or something? lmao everyone's "offensive" to someone. The real problem is not enforcing proper behavioural policies and penalties for these people.

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FriendlyPenguin

Original post by Bang Outta Order

And do what? Give them a personality test or something? lmao everyone's "offensive" to someone. The real problem is not enforcing proper behavioural policies and penalties for these people.

It isn't unreasonable.

Just have an audit of potential MPs' internet histories as a prerequisite of being a candidate. The audit should include one person from each minority group. If later it is revealed that there is an account they haven't disclosed, they pay a penalty (or are kicked out).

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Bang Outta Order

Original post by FriendlyPenguin

It isn't unreasonable.

Just have an audit of potential MPs' internet histories as a prerequisite of being a candidate. The audit should include one person from each minority group. If later it is revealed that there is an account they haven't disclosed, they pay a penalty (or are kicked out).

They already do that, release reports on what they spend, where they go etc as public officials, and on paper are penalised for not complying or a wrongdoing being exposed. So clearly it's not enough and those reports go through a time consuming process. There needs to be a more immediate approach to enforcing standards and intolerance of inappropriate conduct of pretty much everyone, not just this guy, but particularly a public official.

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FriendlyPenguin

Original post by Bang Outta Order

They already do that, release reports on what they spend, where they go etc as public officials, and on paper are penalised for not complying or a wrongdoing being exposed. So clearly it's not enough and those reports go through a time consuming process. There needs to be a more immediate approach to enforcing standards and intolerance of inappropriate conduct of pretty much everyone, not just this guy, but particularly a public official.

You need accountants, lawyers, and other specialists to determine if they've done something illegal, because there is a lot of technicality.

You don't need specialists to sift through their internet histories to see if they've been racist or homophobic. An algorithm could flag potentially offensive things that they've said, and the council of community volunteers would go over them.

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limetang

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Original post by Danny Dorito

Former leader of the Liberal Democrats Tim Farron has said that he was regrets saying that homosexuality isn't sinful. Speaking to Christian radio Premier Christian, Farron spoke of how he "foolishly" gave a response to the question of gay sex that was "not right"

You can read more on the story here.

What do you make of this? Should he have "bowed to pressure"? Is it a good thing he isn't the leader of the Lib Dems anymore? Is it good to have an MP who's religious beliefs could influence their behaviour in parliament?

Incorrect, he said that he regretted saying that gay sex was not sinful. Gay sex and homosexuality are not synonymous. You can be gay without having gay sex and it is possible (though maybe not likely) that you can have gay sex without being gay.

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Original post by FriendlyPenguin

People with offensive views shouldn't be allowed to be MPs.

I'm offended by that. So you should never be an MP.

Reply 32

I believe in freedom of conscience, and it's come under threat from those on the far left, far right and our centrist establishment who believe in dictating to people what they are allowed to think.

If someone has views that doesn't harm anyone but is the conclusion their conscience has led them to, why should others be able to declare their superiority by saying only what they think is acceptable. It was not hard to deduce what Tim Farron was doing at the time, but if he had conviction and was able to explain a clear answer first time he wouldn't have been in a difficult situation (just like Jacob Rees-Mogg did).

However, there will always be some who are ignorantly certain they know best and their minds bypass the actual point being made, if something is about homosexuality and sounds like it might be negative they will jump to the word homophobic.

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Original post by Napp

Possibly because that sort are beneath contempt.

Maybe to you, but UKIP are one of only three parties to have won a national election in the past hundred years. I think the whole message from this thread is that people have different views, the world could become better if we all were less judgemental and more accepting

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username3700584

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Was it necessary to mention gay sex oml idk seems uneccesaey

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Napp

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Original post by Hatter_2

Maybe to you, but UKIP are one of only three parties to have won a national election in the past hundred years. I think the whole message from this thread is that people have different views, the world could become better if we all were less judgemental and more accepting

UKIP have never won a national election...?

Maybe it would, maybe it wouldnt. Alas we shall never know.

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