Guys : ONS with a virgin ?

sex is for losers

but you said 'Anyone who bases their decision on whether someone is or isn't a virgin is a bit stupid IMO.'

Your virginity status at a certain age says a lot about your behaviour, in terms of impulsiveness, attractiveness, moral beliefs, and use of alcohol and drugs.

It's one of the better things people use to decide how to behave. There are a lot of far more crap ones, like what kind of shoes someone wears.

I'd be in two minds whether to feel guilty about deflowering her in such an unloving way or to punch the air and go YES, JCC SMASH!

I completely disagree. You can tell from someone's general character what type of person they are, whether they have had sex or not is kind of irrelevant. I agree that the shoes thing is crap, but I think this about pretty much all the weird dating 'rules' some people have. Date who you are attracted to and have a good time with. Age, virginity, smoker or not etc doesn't need to come into it.

What is ONS?

Well would you want to lose it to someone who cared.

I find it so sad that people go "I'm 17 and STILL a virgin...it just hasn't happened yet". Look its your life and your body so if its your prerogative but I don't understand why people think 17 is so old to be a virgin. many pf my friends were in their 20s and not one regrets waiting. don't be in such a rush. I think the attitude of "I want to just get it over and have fun" is quite immature really but as i said that's my belief and its your decision and you know what right for you

Remember the first time often hurts and if he doesn't know he might be a bit fast and rough and then it will be very painful.

That takes an extremely long time. People tend to present their best face to you for a while and later let loose their true self. It's best to pick up as many hints about whoever you are with's true nature as you can.

You may be attracted to hidden things about a person. If you're attracted to sexual experience, virginity may not be the way to go. If you're attracted to people without emotional baggage, someone who's had twenty boyfriends and sex with all of them isn't the way to go.

Age and smoker status are very important. Age determines how attracted you are to a person, likewise with smoking. Your looks and appearance tend to get less as you age, past a certain point, more below a certain point. Plus, older guys tend to be more experienced and dominant, and have more money and tend to get girls pregnant more often.

And virginity does that how? Hypothetically, if I was in a loving relationship and lost my virginity at 14, how would that mean I have lax morals or whatever you're implying? Similarly, just because someone hasn't had sex at 18 doesn't mean they're purer than the virgin Mary. I just don't see what virginity has to do with it. You can tell from how people look...even when they try to act, you can still see what they're like. For example, if a chavvy guy tries to act like a sophisticated individual, it won't go too well.

But that's assuming things. Someone who's had sex with all of her exes may not have any emotional baggage at all.

Why? I tend to like older men, but I don't have set age parameters. If I liked someone and they were a lot older than me, it wouldn't change how I feel about them. And why does being a smoker affect it? I don't smoke myself but if my partner smoked I wouldn't mind. All that matters is whether you like the person and have a 'spark'.

If you had sex at 14, you probably have poor impulse control. Morally, you're willing to break the law for sex. If you had sex at 18, you have good impulse control, and were less willing to break the law. This would depend on how attractive you were, which is easy to judge.

People are very good at hiding things. With obvious examples you can tell, but not always.

It's likely. Sex is intense. It forms bonds. You are assuming that because you don't definitely know the information is useless. If you know there's a 80% chance that after you have sex she's going to think about her ex or a 20% chance she's going to cheat on you that's helpful information

Well, you should know there's a higher chance of one impregnating you, and take precautions. You should know you'll have different experiences which may be a barrier.

Well, they smell and they're gonna die sooner. Their teeth will rot. The future matters. They have less money too, and poor impulse control.

No, it means that you loved someone and felt that as the owner of your body, you could do as you pleased with it. It is not the state's business to dictate what one can do with one's own body. Oh and by the way, the age of consent is only there to stop paedophiles. Hence why people rarely get convicted for having sex with their partners when they're under 16.

And where did you get those statistics from? You can't generalise everyone.

WHy exactly is there a higher chance of me becoming pregnant if I date men who are older than me? Surely that depends on a lot of things, such as the fertility of both parties, contraception used, whether or not their having sexual relations etc.

I play a dangerous sport. There's a chance I could be injured badly. Is someone going to not date me because of it? I highly doubt it. You could die crossing the road tomorrow. Everything is risky. Oh and not all smokers smell. Some of my closest friends smoke and unless you know them well, you wouldn't be able to tell as they don't smell at all.

I would be happy and dance about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chQP6Q5FO5s&feature=related

This tune would then play in my head.

I'd be in two minds whether to feel guilty about deflowering her in such an unloving way or to punch the air and go YES, JCC SMASH!