Question for Atheists

Original post by Mahbuba1997

Ok I have nothing against your beliefs

I don't have beliefs, I have knowledge.

Original post by Mahbuba1997

I was wondering do you guys think about what happens after death?

Your body rots. That's all.

Original post by Mahbuba1997

Also was there a particular reason why you became Atheist (assuming you were brought up with religion)

Working out organised religion was a means of controlling society + realising there are hundreds of religions saying all the others are wrong + learning how scriptures vary over time + discovering there is no evidence that any gods exist.

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Original post by ImNotMe

I like to think of The Quran as the computer manual and prayer is like talking directly to the Manufacturer.

and yet no matter how hard you bang on the keys, bugger all comes up on the screen.

Crap analogy.

Original post by kaiwid23

one cannot be 100% sure if there is a supernatural deity or not.

I am 100% sure there is no supernatural deity.

Original post by I Procrastinate

Atheism is a belief. You BELIEVE that God doesn't exist.

Boring. There is no evidence of the gods that live on Olympus, nor any of the other thousands of invisible sky-daddies people have made up.

You may as well claim that "some people do not believe there is an invisible giant yellow unicorn that created everything, therefore it exists" - that is no argument there is one of those either.

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Original post by rachelc142

I think as a non atheist you shouldn't be dictating what it is that we believe hahaha
I wouldn't try and describe you as "somebody that believes in a non- existing deity " because it's not my place to. :smile:

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No, you got me wrong. I said that "atheists don't believe in god", whereas you then said that there is atheists don't even acknowledge that he exists. Well then according to your statement, i can say that atheists don't beleive in god, because i believe that god does exists. Do you get what i mean? :smile:

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Original post by I Procrastinate

Well, since i believe that there is a God, then i can state that atheists believe that God doesn't exist, right?

That's a misleading description of atheism.

Atheists have no belief in god(s), they don't believe there is no god.

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Original post by Simes

Boring. There is no evidence of the gods that live on Olympus, nor any of the other thousands of invisible sky-daddies people have made up.

You may as well claim that "some people do not believe there is an invisible giant yellow unicorn that created everything, therefore it exists" - that is no argument there is one of those either.

Boring? LOL :rolleyes:

The person who i was answering to said that Atheism isn't a belief, when it clearly is. You just don't believe there is a God.
"Atheists are people who believe that god or gods (or other supernatural beings) are man-made constructs, myths and legends or who believe that these concepts are not meaningful."

When it comes to the question whether God exists or not, then that is completely subjective.
The Qur'an to muslims is evidence that Allah exists, the Bible to Christians is proof that God exists, the Torah to Jews is the evidence that God exists.
In addition, miracles and religious places can also be examples as to why one believes there is a God.

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Original post by I Procrastinate

"Atheists are people who believe that god or gods (or other supernatural beings) are man-made constructs, myths and legends or who believe that these concepts are not meaningful."

That quote comes from Atheism & Islam at a Glance; By Ijaz Chaudry; Difference between Atheism and Islam, Islamic point of view which is hardly an atheist's opinion, is it? Very impartial. Not.

Original post by I Procrastinate

When it comes to the question whether God exists or not, then that is completely subjective.

That's not accurate. If you choose to believe in something made up, then it is subjective.

I have decided to only acknowledge that for which there is evidence. There is no evidence for there being any gods.

Original post by I Procrastinate

The Qur'an to muslims is evidence that Allah exists, the Bible to Christians is proof that God exists, the Torah to Jews is the evidence that God exists.

So there are three cases of religions which disagree with each other. The odds are that believing in one means it is 2 to 1 against that you picked the right one. Except there are thousands of different religions all with conflicting stories.

Original post by I Procrastinate

In addition, miracles and religious places can also be examples as to why one believes there is a God.

They are not evidence; miracles are in self-referencing scripture and religious places are merely referred to in that scripture. That is not evidence of anything. You may as well claim every place and event in every other work of fiction is real too.

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Mahbuba1997

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Woah woah woah guys this was not meant to start a debate. Calm yourselves!

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Original post by morgan8002

Nothing happens after death. Neurones cease to function and hence conciousness cannot continue.
I became an atheist because that is the most logical explanation of everything. When there is a lack of data, go for the most feasible and logical theory.
My family and pretty much everyone I know now are atheist, but my primary school was religious. By the age of 5 I had dismissed their views.

Original post by Drunk Punx

I came to the personal conclusion long ago that most people are scared of death and welcome the concept of an afterlife because they're unwilling to accept "nothingness". The hierarchical pyramid of power that is organised religion exploited this, and threw in a load of stuff about "God" (amongst a load of "rules" to live your life by) in a bid to control people.

That being said, it's also important to see the distinction between spirituality and religion; to say that you can't have one without the other is erroneous. The paragraph above applies specifically to organised religion.

Ok I understand both of you and I get where you're coming from. Logically it does make sense, I am not going to deny that like a lot of believing do :indiff:

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Original post by Simes

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That quote comes from Atheism & Islam at a Glance; By Ijaz Chaudry; Difference between Atheism and Islam, Islamic point of view which is hardly an atheist's opinion, is it? Very impartial. Not.

I got that quote from BBC Religion. It's hardly "impartial".

That's not accurate. If you choose to believe in something made up, then it is subjective.

I have decided to only acknowledge that for which there is evidence. There is no evidence for there being any gods.
R: I believe that God does exist.-Subjective.
(Well to me, it's like a fact, because i believe in it 100%, but obviously to others that's not the case.)

A: I believe that God doesn't exist/rejects the thought of their being a God-pick whatever you want. subjective.

So there are three cases of religions which disagree with each other. The odds are that believing in one means it is 2 to 1 against that you picked the right one. Except there are thousands of different religions all with conflicting stories.

They are not evidence; miracles are in self-referencing scripture and religious places are merely referred to in that scripture. That is not evidence of anything. You may as well claim every place and event in every other work of fiction is real too.

Actually, there are similarities between some religions. For example, christians and muslims have similarities between them, but there is the major difference about the Prophet Muhammed PBUH being the last messenger and also the point that christians believe in the holy trinity.
There is another point i would have liked to add, but i'm going to double check it before i make any claims.
Every religion believes that there is a God(s) or an omnipotent sovereign. Is there a religion that doesn't believe in this? Perhaps, i should have put "Most". Anyway, my point is that all religious people believe in there being something supreme.

Well, what other explanation is there of the Ka'bah? i only know of one.....

I thought i lost what i typed for a second.

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Original post by Mahbuba1997

Woah woah woah guys this was not meant to start a debate. Calm yourselves!

Apparently this started by my "misinterpretation" of the meaning of Atheism. Wow. Really.

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Original post by Simes

You may as well claim that "some people do not believe there is an invisible giant yellow unicorn that created everything, therefore it exists" - that is no argument there is one of those either.

But yellow things can't be invisible, because they're yellow.

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Original post by Simes

and yet no matter how hard you bang on the keys, bugger all comes up on the screen.

Crap analogy.

I am 100% sure there is no supernatural deity.

Boring. There is no evidence of the gods that live on Olympus, nor any of the other thousands of invisible sky-daddies people have made up.

You may as well claim that "some people do not believe there is an invisible giant yellow unicorn that created everything, therefore it exists" - that is no argument there is one of those either.

My 100% sentence was referencing the origins of our universe and the cause of its existence. We don't know how it came about and it may well have been due to some weird force some people would call God. I'm not talking about the God of modern (or historic) religions when I say "supernatural deity".

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Original post by Mahbuba1997

Woah woah woah guys this was not meant to start a debate. Calm yourselves!

Those religionistas can't stop themselves preaching.

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