Why do many students live disgustingly?
I was at a student house yesterday and it was a complete tip. Mess everywhere on the floor, the bin was overflowing and rubbish was being purposely put around it, the bathroom was dirty, the kitchen was filthy was washing up and old food everywhere, the bedroom I went in had laundry everywhere and pizza boxes and beer bottles strewn across the floor, everywhere needed hoovering and parts of the house were damp.
Why do students choose to live like this? Do they want to get sick and/or live in chaos and mess? I'm 16 but I couldn't live like that at ll; if something needs cleaning or doing no matter how big or small, I just get on and do it. It disgusts me how people live everyday like this; I was told seven people live in that house, I don't see how none of them can be bothered to look after where they live.
Why do students choose to live like this? Do they want to get sick and/or live in chaos and mess? I'm 16 but I couldn't live like that at ll; if something needs cleaning or doing no matter how big or small, I just get on and do it. It disgusts me how people live everyday like this; I was told seven people live in that house, I don't see how none of them can be bothered to look after where they live.
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A lot of people aren't used to having to clean up after themselves. It's a big transition going from living with your parents to being somewhat independent. Even those who feel they do a lot around the house probably don't realise quite how much it is that their parents do for them. Stocking the things needed to keep a place clean is also quite pricey when you're living on a budget - especially if not everyone is chipping in. And if you leave them out in the common area expect things to vanish so rapidly you wonder why it was even worth paying for it in the first place.
I lived in halls at 18-19 and then again at 22-23. In the latter I ended up doing most of the cleaning in the communal areas because I just couldn't stand the smell or the sight of the place. I tried ignoring it a few times when I got fed-up cleaning up after everyone else but it just became unbearable as no one else was willing to pick up the slack. I stayed more weekends than anyone else so I was just making myself suffer by doing that anyway.
I lived in halls at 18-19 and then again at 22-23. In the latter I ended up doing most of the cleaning in the communal areas because I just couldn't stand the smell or the sight of the place. I tried ignoring it a few times when I got fed-up cleaning up after everyone else but it just became unbearable as no one else was willing to pick up the slack. I stayed more weekends than anyone else so I was just making myself suffer by doing that anyway.
People that rely on their parents to do everything tend to do this.
Original post by sinfonietta
A lot of people aren't used to having to clean up after themselves. It's a big transition going from living with your parents to being somewhat independent. Even those who feel they do a lot around the house probably don't realise quite how much it is that their parents do for them. Stocking the things needed to keep a place clean is also quite pricey when you're living on a budget - especially if not everyone is chipping in. And if you leave them out in the common area expect things to vanish so rapidly you wonder why it was even worth paying for it in the first place.
I lived in halls at 18-19 and then again at 22-23. In the latter I ended up doing most of the cleaning in the communal areas because I just couldn't stand the smell or the sight of the place. I tried ignoring it a few times when I got fed-up cleaning up after everyone else but it just became unbearable as no one else was willing to pick up the slack. I stayed more weekends than anyone else so I was just making myself suffer by doing that anyway.
I lived in halls at 18-19 and then again at 22-23. In the latter I ended up doing most of the cleaning in the communal areas because I just couldn't stand the smell or the sight of the place. I tried ignoring it a few times when I got fed-up cleaning up after everyone else but it just became unbearable as no one else was willing to pick up the slack. I stayed more weekends than anyone else so I was just making myself suffer by doing that anyway.
I see what you're saying, but I still don't understand how just seeing the mess everyday doesn't hit people's minds, and they don't think they should do something about it. II don't see why people wouldn't just buy their own cleaning stuff if they don't want to rely on other people's money; Poundland has everything someone on a budget would need to keep everything clean.
It fascinates me how people moan that their house is dirty, person X hasn't taken the bin out and person Y has left their washing in the sink; just do it. Students usually have the time between lectures and socialising to sort out their living conditions.
1. Students are often used to their parents doing the cleaning for them, so they can't be bothered.
2. In a house share, no-one takes responsibility for cleaning. Everyone waits for someone else to do it. And if you do do it, you will probably get fed up of having to always do it while your housemates don't bother.
2. In a house share, no-one takes responsibility for cleaning. Everyone waits for someone else to do it. And if you do do it, you will probably get fed up of having to always do it while your housemates don't bother.
Original post by Yaboi
Got bigger things to worry about.
Like what? Being late to your media studies lecture or arranging a time to go the pub? I don't see how people don't have time to live cleanly.
Original post by Glassapple
Like what? Being late to your media studies lecture or arranging a time to go the pub? I don't see how people don't have time to live cleanly.
People are stressed out with work, revision, yes classes, prepping meals, doing washing etc
yh it might seem small but going from having everything given to you to such a life is very hard. If having a messy room is the biggest issue you have as a student then you're doing pretty good imo.
Original post by Glassapple
...I don't see why people wouldn't just buy their own cleaning stuff if they don't want to rely on other people's money...
It's kind of the opposite. People want their flatmates to buy the cleaning products so they don't have to spend their own money on it. And when they run out people just wait for someone else to cave and go buy more.
It's why I hoarded mine in my room.
Are most people in halls like this then? If they are I think I'm just going to live on my own (I can afford to), as I don't think I could stand living in fear of mess and noise. Just before students went university I had assumed their parents would give them a crash course in how to keep a house/flat clean and how to do basic life jobs, like washing and vacuuming.
Do you not get freaked out if you have to prepare meals and have your stuff in a messy kitchen, when it's still dirty from other people's stuff? I know I would; even when my own stuff was clean and put away I'd be paranoid about contamination from the air and physical things around me.
Do you not get freaked out if you have to prepare meals and have your stuff in a messy kitchen, when it's still dirty from other people's stuff? I know I would; even when my own stuff was clean and put away I'd be paranoid about contamination from the air and physical things around me.
Most people aren't as bad as that, obviously, but it's mostly because we've got more important stuff to do, or we've got so much more important stuff to do that we need a break and can't afford the time. When you're working 10-5 or sometimes 9-12 or 9-4 when **** hits the fan for 7 days a week for 2 months straight you don't really prioritise washing dishes.
As for the overflowing bins they might not have a choice, it's pretty easy for stuff to pile up if you miss a collection and it's pretty easy to miss a collection over the holidays because you can't really put your bin out or you'll get fined for leaving it on the pavement for a couple weeks.
As for the overflowing bins they might not have a choice, it's pretty easy for stuff to pile up if you miss a collection and it's pretty easy to miss a collection over the holidays because you can't really put your bin out or you'll get fined for leaving it on the pavement for a couple weeks.
Mummy is not there to clean up the mess.
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Lack of responsibility
Rooms or flat in a poor condition to begin with
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Original post by Helloworld_95
Most people aren't as bad as that, obviously, but it's mostly because we've got more important stuff to do, or we've got so much more important stuff to do that we need a break and can't afford the time. When you're working 10-5 or sometimes 9-12 or 9-4 when **** hits the fan for 7 days a week for 2 months straight you don't really prioritise washing dishes.
As for the overflowing bins they might not have a choice, it's pretty easy for stuff to pile up if you miss a collection and it's pretty easy to miss a collection over the holidays because you can't really put your bin out or you'll get fined for leaving it on the pavement for a couple weeks.
As for the overflowing bins they might not have a choice, it's pretty easy for stuff to pile up if you miss a collection and it's pretty easy to miss a collection over the holidays because you can't really put your bin out or you'll get fined for leaving it on the pavement for a couple weeks.
There is always time to do the dishes. My sister who's a nurse works 07:30-20:00 four to five days a week has a spotless house with clean dishes, etc. How can you wake up and think you don't have two minutes to take a bin out or wash a cup, or fifteen minutes after work to wash-up stuff you've left in the sink? How do you physically live with dirty stuff, or stuff you can't use?
If you miss a collection take it to the tip yourself. If you're working then part of having a healthy and productive work life is to have a decent, clean home life. I wouldn't want to come home to a house overflowing with dirt and mess; I'd rather stay at work.
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It's reading stuff like this that makes me glad that my parents gave me chores to do growing up. I know people who are going to university and they don't even know how to put the washing on.
Original post by Glassapple
Are most people in halls like this then? If they are I think I'm just going to live on my own (I can afford to), as I don't think I could stand living in fear of mess and noise. Just before students went university I had assumed their parents would give them a crash course in how to keep a house/flat clean and how to do basic life jobs, like washing and vacuuming.
Do you not get freaked out if you have to prepare meals and have your stuff in a messy kitchen, when it's still dirty from other people's stuff? I know I would; even when my own stuff was clean and put away I'd be paranoid about contamination from the air and physical things around me.
Do you not get freaked out if you have to prepare meals and have your stuff in a messy kitchen, when it's still dirty from other people's stuff? I know I would; even when my own stuff was clean and put away I'd be paranoid about contamination from the air and physical things around me.
In halls there is usually a cleaner, so it won't be a bad as a house, but there will be certain things that they won't do, such as taking out bins and washing dishes so it still will be messier than living with your parents.
Original post by Glassapple
There is always time to do the dishes. My sister who's a nurse works 07:30-20:00 four to five days a week has a spotless house with clean dishes, etc. How can you wake up and think you don't have two minutes to take a bin out or wash a cup, or fifteen minutes after work to wash-up stuff you've left in the sink? How do you physically live with dirty stuff, or stuff you can't use?
If you miss a collection take it to the tip yourself. If you're working then part of having a healthy and productive work life is to have a decent, clean home life. I wouldn't want to come home to a house overflowing with dirt and mess; I'd rather stay at work.
If you miss a collection take it to the tip yourself. If you're working then part of having a healthy and productive work life is to have a decent, clean home life. I wouldn't want to come home to a house overflowing with dirt and mess; I'd rather stay at work.
Ooh your sister has a weekend, lucky her, that actually gives her a couple days when she doesn't have work to do so no it's not really more difficult for her to prioritise as such. Additionally it's a lot easier to clean up for yourself when there's one or two of you than when there's 5 or so of you, and if she's out 7.30-20.00 she's pretty unlikely to make any mess anyway.
It's pretty easy to think that way, you get up as late as you can, or as late as you can while giving yourself time to make sure you're not rushed and then you just don't have the time to do anything extra in the morning or it screws up your schedule. Equally if you're just getting back from work you're not going to be in the mood to spend 15 minutes doing more work. You clean stuff as you need it or when you have a rare moment where you can spare the time to do a clean.
Taking a collection to the tip requires a car and money, it costs quite a bit to drop something off at the tip. Both are things that most students don't really have.
You're coming from the point of view of someone who has only been at school and has had other people in the house who are more responsible for keeping it clean. Once you experience the life of a university student which quickly becomes very 24/7 and comes with the variety that living with other people does you'll quickly realise that keeping your house spotless starts to drop on the priority list.
To me, this is absolutely fine.
This just looks like a bunch of people have had pre-s and then gone out. Very unlikely that they're going to clear up before they go, but when they get round to it, it looks like less than 5 minutes work to chuck everything out (except that last Koppaberg and the 2 fingers of JD) and wipe up the work top. Nothing looks dirty really - there's just a lot of detritus.
This just looks like a bunch of people have had pre-s and then gone out. Very unlikely that they're going to clear up before they go, but when they get round to it, it looks like less than 5 minutes work to chuck everything out (except that last Koppaberg and the 2 fingers of JD) and wipe up the work top. Nothing looks dirty really - there's just a lot of detritus.
Original post by Helloworld_95
Ooh your sister has a weekend, lucky her, that actually gives her a couple days when she doesn't have work to do so no it's not really more difficult for her to prioritise as such. Additionally it's a lot easier to clean up for yourself when there's one or two of you than when there's 5 or so of you, and if she's out 7.30-20.00 she's pretty unlikely to make any mess anyway.
It's pretty easy to think that way, you get up as late as you can, or as late as you can while giving yourself time to make sure you're not rushed and then you just don't have the time to do anything extra in the morning or it screws up your schedule. Equally if you're just getting back from work you're not going to be in the mood to spend 15 minutes doing more work. You clean stuff as you need it or when you have a rare moment where you can spare the time to do a clean.
Taking a collection to the tip requires a car and money, it costs quite a bit to drop something off at the tip. Both are things that most students don't really have.
You're coming from the point of view of someone who has only been at school and has had other people in the house who are more responsible for keeping it clean. Once you experience the life of a university student which quickly becomes very 24/7 and comes with the variety that living with other people does you'll quickly realise that keeping your house spotless starts to drop on the priority list.
It's pretty easy to think that way, you get up as late as you can, or as late as you can while giving yourself time to make sure you're not rushed and then you just don't have the time to do anything extra in the morning or it screws up your schedule. Equally if you're just getting back from work you're not going to be in the mood to spend 15 minutes doing more work. You clean stuff as you need it or when you have a rare moment where you can spare the time to do a clean.
Taking a collection to the tip requires a car and money, it costs quite a bit to drop something off at the tip. Both are things that most students don't really have.
You're coming from the point of view of someone who has only been at school and has had other people in the house who are more responsible for keeping it clean. Once you experience the life of a university student which quickly becomes very 24/7 and comes with the variety that living with other people does you'll quickly realise that keeping your house spotless starts to drop on the priority list.
Original post by Trinculo
To me, this is absolutely fine.
This just looks like a bunch of people have had pre-s and then gone out. Very unlikely that they're going to clear up before they go, but when they get round to it, it looks like less than 5 minutes work to chuck everything out (except that last Koppaberg and the 2 fingers of JD) and wipe up the work top. Nothing looks dirty really - there's just a lot of detritus.
This just looks like a bunch of people have had pre-s and then gone out. Very unlikely that they're going to clear up before they go, but when they get round to it, it looks like less than 5 minutes work to chuck everything out (except that last Koppaberg and the 2 fingers of JD) and wipe up the work top. Nothing looks dirty really - there's just a lot of detritus.
There is absolutely no way I could live like that at all; I wouldn't be able to make anything in that kitchen in that state. I wouldn't like thinking about the amount of people who'd been in there and what they'd done in there. If that's the minimum that happens the maximum is just not an option for me; I've now ruled out halls in the future!
Regardless of how much work at university I'd have, it's never due the next day. I'd have time to have a spotless house with clean dishes and everything else. I plan my time well anyway; there's no way I wouldn't have half an hour or more to sort out the bin and the dishes, and do the rest.
My flat in halls is pretty clean and tidy - especially compared to some flats. We do have a cleaner that comes in every two weeks but we do most of the work through a rota. We also wash up our stuff after using it (or within a day at most) so nothing stacks up.
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