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      (Original post by AishaGirl)
      I did already ask on UF but I wanted a bit of a broader scope of answers. Not the university, the environment inside is completely foreign to me. I just want to know what to expect. Have you ever been inside a mosque? Do you know what to expect? Probably not.
      The Muslims here aren't all that different to the ones on UF - I looked at your UF thread and you got pretty much the same answers (from Muslims) here as you did there. :dontknow:

      No, but I spent my formative years in the ME, so I doubt anything that goes on inside a mosque would come as a complete surprise to me. (Even without that, this again is not the best analogy because you don't need to have been in one to figure out that the main purpose of a mosque is worship.)

      It's a shame so many people have taken this so personally, I just wanted to educate myself and calm my nerves / reassure myself. Seems like whenever you ask a question about a fundamental aspect of British culture you're shamed for not knowing about it because "you're British you should know these things" well I'm sorry I do not know...
      That's fair enough, but surely you knew that some of the things you said about non-Muslims were inflammatory - you can't blame uni students for taking it personally when you referred to them as 'drunks falling all over each other while partying to Rihanna and sucking the saliva out of each others mouths.' It's a reasonable assumption that someone who lives in the UK would know that something so absurd is not a fundamental part of British culture.
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      (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
      I said decent jobs. Not any job.

      Erm yes it is. It's not a problem if you're aspiring to be a breeding machine who stays at home after university. For someone who wants a high flying career and a good graduate job? It's a problem.
      TBH a Muslim's aim shouldn't be to have a high flying career, its to please Allah
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      (Original post by AishaGirl)
      Seems like whenever you ask a question about a fundamental aspect of British culture you're shamed for not knowing about it because "you're British you should know these things" well I'm sorry I do not know...
      The same situation applies to people with Asperger syndrome even if they are as British as the bulldog. They are just expected to know XYZ about British culture - including unwritten rules - by default. If they ask certain questions about British culture then it provokes anger and bewilderment for not knowing it.

      I have also wondered if people who rarely watch social type TV programmes are likely to end up socially deprived or have weaker social skills than people who watch them. Does Eastenders teach pub etiquette?
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      (Original post by desaf1)
      TBH a Muslim's aim shouldn't be to have a high flying career, its to please Allah
      It may be your aim. But to any normal person they'd pick a high flying career over a non existent being
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      (Original post by AishaGirl)
      Salams.

      Muslims who are currently at uni or who have been at uni, what is your honest review / opinion of the lifestyle there? Did you find it very difficult to avoid haram situations?

      I have this weird view in my head of there being fitnah around every corner you turn and pressure from the people in your halls to "socialise" when there is alcohol and music every time.

      Would you say that it's easy to just mind your own business and study or is it really distracting with all the temptations around? If you had to give some important advice for a muslim going to uni, what advice would you give?

      My dad is already freaking out about me going because he thinks it's going to be like a brothel... he said students don't always go out and they have parties inside most of the time.

      Non Muslims, would you be bothered if a practising Muslim was in your hall? Someone who wears the hijab, prays, fasts etc?
      If you go to University in the UK, there will be other muslims. Sure there can be a drinking culture, but not everyone is interested in that, and I'm sure you will meet people who share the same interests as you. I think it can be the case that often muslims make friends with muslims, and non-muslims, make friends with non-muslims. That doesn't need to be so.

      Although I don't believe any of the major religions are beneficial to human kind, that does not mean I would treat you any different as my neighbour, I would want to get to know you as a person. The question is however, would you allow yourself to get to know me, or am I as a male non-believer, off limits?
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      (Original post by desaf1)
      TBH a Muslim's aim shouldn't be to have a high flying career, its to please Allah
      Imagine reaching death having never really lived. I'm sorry for you and the millions of others who believe in life after death, rather than life before death.
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      (Original post by robbo3045)
      If you go to University in the UK, there will be other muslims. Sure there can be a drinking culture, but not everyone is interested in that, and I'm sure you will meet people who share the same interests as you. I think it can be the case that often muslims make friends with muslims, and non-muslims, make friends with non-muslims. That doesn't need to be so.

      Although I don't believe any of the major religions are beneficial to human kind, that does not mean I would treat you any different as my neighbour, I would want to get to know you as a person. The question is however, would you allow yourself to get to know me, or am I as a male non-believer, off limits?
      No you're not "off limits" lol. It depends on the person. Will I sit down and have a chat with you? Sure. Will I go clubbing and get wasted with you? Of course not...
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      I attended King's College London for my undergrad degree. When I was there I stuck with the Islamic society from day 1. I learned about my faith too while chilling with them. When I wasn't with them I never saw sources of fitnah nor did I partake in anything like clubbing though I knew about the club down the road from the campus, i stuck with the right crowd I guess and so I ended up just doing charity stuff with the ISoc while away from studies. I guess it depends on who you stick with. There'll be temptations and stuff but you have to accept that.
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      Id quite like a practicing Muslim to be in my halls, learning about a different theology different to yours is always refreshing.


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      (Original post by robbo3045)
      Imagine reaching death having never really lived. I'm sorry for you and the millions of others who believe in life after death, rather than life before death.
      This is the most intelligent thing I've read in these type of threads for a while...

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      Love a good house party 🎉

      Are they brothels on the whole? No
      Do people care if you drink? No
      Do they care if you're Muslim on the whole? No
      Do they care if you force your views on them (about alcohol, sex, partying, hating gay people etc) - (I've experienced this from a Muslim) Yes - duh
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      (Original post by MeYou2Night)
      Love a good house party 🎉

      Are they brothels on the whole? No
      Do people care if you drink? No
      Do they care if you're Muslim on the whole? No
      Do they care if you force your views on them (about alcohol, sex, partying, hating gay people etc) - (I've experienced this from a Muslim) Yes - duh
      No brothels in unis? Seems like there's a gap in the market
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      (Original post by samrichardsonn)
      Id quite like a practicing Muslim to be in my halls, learning about a different theology different to yours is always refreshing.


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      thats a refreshing statement, rare to see on TSR

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      According to most there's only two type of muslims: you're either so religious you hate everyone else or you dont take your religion 'seriously' or at least that's the vibe I got from lurking in some of the threads
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      (Original post by robbo3045)
      Imagine reaching death having never really lived. I'm sorry for you and the millions of others who believe in life after death, rather than life before death.
      Try telling someone living in a slum they should be living their life now rather than waiting for the afterlife all the whole doing nothing to actually making it possible for them to live their life now. These kind of atheistic world views are really easy to hold when you are a young educated first worlder.

      It's almost like there is a reason humans cling to comforting notions that address the injustices of life.
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      (Original post by AishaGirl)
      No haram loans, mummy and daddy will pay Alhamdulillah
      Hey, what do you mean by that? I heard other Muslims talking about how loans are haram and I was confused.
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      (Original post by Carthaginian)
      It doesn't take a genius to figure out that Christians are treated as second rate citizens.

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng...be-a-christian

      Oh right, most of these countries listed are Muslim majority.
      LOL wut, Saudi arabia and Sudan have christians populations well over a miliion almost 2 million I doubt this is true
      There are many churches in Islamic countries

      https://www.christiantoday.com/artic...vers/56767.htm

      Your argument doesn't make sense either because muslims are also treated as second class citizens here. Especially if they're brown/black
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      (Original post by MeYou2Night)
      Love a good house party 🎉

      Are they brothels on the whole? No
      Do people care if you drink? No
      Do they care if you're Muslim on the whole? No
      Do they care if you force your views on them (about alcohol, sex, partying, hating gay people etc) - (I've experienced this from a Muslim) Yes - duh
      Out of all the muslims you have met, how many have done this? Very few I presume
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      (Original post by YouMeAt6)
      Out of all the muslims you have met, how many have done this? Very few I presume
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      (Original post by MeYou2Night)
      8 out of 10
      I doubt this is true, what exactly did they say to you? because there is a difference in expressing an opinion as a part of freedom of speech and radical preaching
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      (Original post by YouMeAt6)
      I doubt this is true, what exactly did they say to you? because there is a difference in expressing an opinion as a part of freedom of speech and radical preaching
      Been told I'll go to hell for drinking, having pre-marital sex, supporting gay marriage unless I change those. Being told I must not eat bacon/pork etc, saying having an Israeli friend is a sin, having a pen with the union flag on it offended them and must not use it in a lecture they're in. There's more but that should be enough.
     
     
     
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