Smoking weed

tis_me_lord

Ok I'm actually going to give a proper response instead of a biased "yeah its fine."

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It's just a natural leaf afterall it isnt like solvents which can drop you dead anytime you do it...

While i agree that it's not going to make you instantly drop dead, "it's just a natural leaf" is the most ridiculous argument you could present. There are vast amounts of natural leaves/flowers/bulbs etc that are all very poisonous - potnetially fatal - being natural does not imply it is not bad for you in any sense at all. Likewise there are countless synthetic substances that aren't bad for you, or are even good for you...

On a different note, does anyone happen to know; if you are predisposed to certain psychological conditions, smoking weed can bring them on. But is it the case that you probably have to smoke quite a lot of weed, or smoke it quite regularl for that to happen, or can it literally turn you the first time you try it? Informed answered appreciated.

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groovy_moose

While i agree that it's not going to make you instantly drop dead, "it's just a natural leaf" is the most ridiculous argument you could present. There are vast amounts of natural leaves/flowers/bulbs etc that are all very poisonous - potnetially fatal - being natural does not imply it is not bad for you in any sense at all. Likewise there are countless synthetic substances that aren't bad for you, or are even good for you...

On a different note, does anyone happen to know; if you are predisposed to certain psychological conditions, smoking weed can bring them on. But is it the case that you probably have to smoke quite a lot of weed, or smoke it quite regularl for that to happen, or can it literally turn you the first time you try it? Informed answered appreciated.

Ok well, maybe some natural stuff can kill you. But weed doesn't... so there is still no case here for the anti-drugs people. I just need to change the wording of my previous post slightly and my other points still stand.

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matt@internet

12

crazyabzyd

Most people (my age) I know do it. I think its pathetic to be honest. It ostracises those who don't, not to mention the long term side affects it gives those who use it.

I'd have to disagree there, I've found people have no problem if I want to enjoy a joint around them, they don't care. Obviously, I don't breathe it their faces or anything though.
And I hang around with my flatmate in his room, talking and playing XBOX and we both smoke weed and sometimes another flatmate who doesn't joins us. He's one of the aformentioned people who don't seem to give a toss if people around him are smoking joints.
So I suspect yeah, some zealots become ostracized, but the majority don't seem to give a crap.

Reply 84

quadruple_twist

2

Both times I did it, it just made me tired and hungry. It kinda feels like being drunk without motivation. I couldn't see what the fuss is about :s-smilie:

Reply 85

Dissey

quadruple_twist

Both times I did it, it just made me tired and hungry. It kinda feels like being drunk without motivation. I couldn't see what the fuss is about :s-smilie:

those DAMNED munchies... :mad:

Reply 86

Dissey

those DAMNED munchies... :mad:

Munchies are awesome! You think it's good when you're drunk and you bite into that greasy kebab? Being stoned takes it to a new level.

I think it's funny how in Amsterdam where it's obviously legal to smoke weed - they have LOADS of places where you can quench munchies. All these stalls for slices of pizza, doughnuts, cakes etc... they must make such good business. :biggrin:

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Dissey

tis_me_lord

Munchies are awesome! You think it's good when you're drunk and you bite into that greasy kebab? Being stoned takes it to a new level.

I think it's funny how in Amsterdam where it's obviously legal to smoke weed - they have LOADS of places where you can quench munchies. All these stalls for slices of pizza, doughnuts, cakes etc... they must make such good business. :biggrin:

munchies are not awesome when you're a vegan weight conscious freak. not awesome at all! Never been to amsterdam, but someone brought me back a shroom bar from there;o

Reply 88

YAP

groovy_moose

On a different note, does anyone happen to know; if you are predisposed to certain psychological conditions, smoking weed can bring them on. But is it the case that you probably have to smoke quite a lot of weed, or smoke it quite regularl for that to happen, or can it literally turn you the first time you try it? Informed answered appreciated.

It's a complicated problem, that can be summarised as 'often, the people who smoke weed are those who shouldn't'.

As an example, if one has anxious tendencies, one is more likely to smoke weed to try and quell them somewhat - drugs can seem like a good idea if one is anxious. However, if one has anxious tendencies, one is more likely to develop full-blown paranoia/psychosis/schizophrenia after a few months of smoking weed. Psychiatric units have many ex-marijuana users amongst their patients because they used it to try and control their relatively minor problem, but ended up with a bigger problem instead.

Of course, this doesn't mean that anyone who doesn't have signs of having a propensity to developing mental health probs can smoke weed with impunity: there will still be a good number of people who show no initial signs and appear totally level-headed, but will get truly obsessive about smoking it and develop serious mental health problems as a result.

To answer your 'will one spliff do it?' question - as I understand it, no. Some people can experience paranoia etc after their first time, but it goes away. For long-term problems, it takes more than one spliff; but the risk, of course, is that one spliff is the gateway to more spliffs.

Speaking of gateways, I don't buy the marijuana is a gateway drug thing anyhow, cigarettes and alcohol are the gateway drugs. For cigarettes, it plants the idea of 'smoke this and feel better' and then smoking something else to feel even better doesn't seem as distant an idea, especially given people tend to add cannabis to tobacco so it just seems like having an extra-fun roll-up. For alcohol, the idea that a chemical can have such an obvious mind-numbing effect on the body does a good job of advertising the potential that other things could do that too; and if they're illegal, hell that must mean they're really good. Anyhow, that was a tangent and a half. I think there's an answer to your question somewhere in all of this lot.

Reply 89

lolilady---O

To me smoking weed is no worse than binge drinking. I wouldn't smoke weed because I don't smoke atall. But i don't think it's some sort of "sin" like some make out it is.

Reply 90

tis_me_lord

Munchies are awesome! You think it's good when you're drunk and you bite into that greasy kebab? Being stoned takes it to a new level.

I think it's funny how in Amsterdam where it's obviously legal to smoke weed - they have LOADS of places where you can quench munchies. All these stalls for slices of pizza, doughnuts, cakes etc... they must make such good business. :biggrin:

It's not legal in Amsterdam, it's just tolerated in designated places and in people's homes. Yes, I know I'm a pedant :wink:

Reply 91

Dissey

Milk

It's not legal in Amsterdam, it's just tolerated in designated places and in people's homes. Yes, I know I'm a pedant :wink:

it's VERY legal in Amsterdam! They get so much tourism from it, it's welcomed, if anything!

Reply 92

redluc

8

It is not legal. There are restrictions on purchase and sale.

Reply 93

Dissey

it's VERY legal in Amsterdam! They get so much tourism from it, it's welcomed, if anything!

Trust me, it's not legal, which is why your not supposed to smoke it on the street.

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But there are restrictions on purchase and sale of petrol in England - is petrol illegal here?

In my opinion if I can walk into a coffee shop, ask for some weed, get served it. Take it outside and have a nice smoke in front of a bunch of policemen, it's legal.

Not so sure on the technical aspects of it, but effectively it's legal.

Reply 95

crema

Milk

Trust me, it's not legal, which is why your not supposed to smoke it on the street.

But alcohol in UK, you are not supposed to drink it in street (may get fined in certain places), and there are restrictions on its sale and purchase. That doesn't make it illegal though. So you can't really use that to prove it's illegal status. I would be quite interested though if you could give some other reasons though...

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tis_me_lord

But there are restrictions on purchase and sale of petrol in England - is petrol illegal here?

In my opinion if I can walk into a coffee shop, ask for some weed, get served it. Take it outside and have a nice smoke in front of a bunch of policemen, it's legal.

Not so sure on the technical aspects of it, but effectively it's legal.

Effectively, yes :wink:

But you're not supposed to smoke it in public places, though, so smoking it outside the coffee shop in front of some policeman might not be a good idea. They might turn a blind eye to it, though :smile:

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http://www.thesite.org/travelandfreetime/travel/beingthere/amsterdamdruglaws

crema

But alcohol in UK, you are not supposed to drink it in street (may get fined in certain places), and there are restrictions on its sale and purchase. That doesn't make it illegal though. So you can't really use that to prove it's illegal status. I would be quite interested though if you could give some other reasons though...

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