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I really want to phone up St. Andrews on results day since they had initially rejected me and ask them if perchance someone missed out on their offer or what have you and could offer me a space?
My teacher said it's worth a try, but that was before I told him I could not find anything that suggests they do clearing, and I was starting to get my hopes up.
He still thinks I should try but ... I don't know ... what do you think?
I really want to phone up St. Andrews on results day since they had initially rejected me and ask them if perchance someone missed out on their offer or what have you and could offer me a space?
My teacher said it's worth a try, but that was before I told him I could not find anything that suggests they do clearing, and I was starting to get my hopes up.
He still thinks I should try but ... I don't know ... what do you think?
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(Original post by DrSebWilkes)
Hi everyone
I really want to phone up St. Andrews hat initially rejected me on results day and ask them if perchance someone missed out on their offer or what have you and could offer me a space?
My teacher said it's worth a try, but that was before I told him I could not find anything that suggests they do clearing, and I was starting to get my hopes up.
He still thinks I should try but ... I don't know ... what do you think?
Hi everyone
I really want to phone up St. Andrews hat initially rejected me on results day and ask them if perchance someone missed out on their offer or what have you and could offer me a space?
My teacher said it's worth a try, but that was before I told him I could not find anything that suggests they do clearing, and I was starting to get my hopes up.
He still thinks I should try but ... I don't know ... what do you think?
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(Original post by swanseajack1)
You would be wasting your time. If they have rejected you already they are highly unlikely to change because of your sob story
You would be wasting your time. If they have rejected you already they are highly unlikely to change because of your sob story
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Normally I'd agree, but in those places that do clearing and whatnot, adjustment does allow candidates to do things like I'm suggesting (at least that's what my teacher implied).
Normally I'd agree, but in those places that do clearing and whatnot, adjustment does allow candidates to do things like I'm suggesting (at least that's what my teacher implied).
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(Original post by DrSebWilkes)
Hi everyone
I really want to phone up St. Andrews hat initially rejected me on results day and ask them if perchance someone missed out on their offer or what have you and could offer me a space?
My teacher said it's worth a try, but that was before I told him I could not find anything that suggests they do clearing, and I was starting to get my hopes up.
He still thinks I should try but ... I don't know ... what do you think?
Hi everyone
I really want to phone up St. Andrews hat initially rejected me on results day and ask them if perchance someone missed out on their offer or what have you and could offer me a space?
My teacher said it's worth a try, but that was before I told him I could not find anything that suggests they do clearing, and I was starting to get my hopes up.
He still thinks I should try but ... I don't know ... what do you think?
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(Original post by DrSebWilkes)
Normally I'd agree, but in those places that do clearing and whatnot, adjustment does allow candidates to do things like I'm suggesting (at least that's what my teacher implied).
Normally I'd agree, but in those places that do clearing and whatnot, adjustment does allow candidates to do things like I'm suggesting (at least that's what my teacher implied).
As St Andrews are not in clearing, it's very likely the course is full, and they are even less likely to change their minds.
However, if you've got a place at your insurance and you're not wasting time you should be using to call other unis to find a clearing space, then I guess you have nothing to lose by trying- and I suppose it might make you feel you have done everything you can.
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(Original post by DrSebWilkes)
Hi everyone
I really want to phone up St. Andrews hat initially rejected me on results day and ask them if perchance someone missed out on their offer or what have you and could offer me a space?
My teacher said it's worth a try, but that was before I told him I could not find anything that suggests they do clearing, and I was starting to get my hopes up.
He still thinks I should try but ... I don't know ... what do you think?
Hi everyone
I really want to phone up St. Andrews hat initially rejected me on results day and ask them if perchance someone missed out on their offer or what have you and could offer me a space?
My teacher said it's worth a try, but that was before I told him I could not find anything that suggests they do clearing, and I was starting to get my hopes up.
He still thinks I should try but ... I don't know ... what do you think?
(Original post by DrSebWilkes)
Normally I'd agree, but in those places that do clearing and whatnot, adjustment does allow candidates to do things like I'm suggesting (at least that's what my teacher implied).
Normally I'd agree, but in those places that do clearing and whatnot, adjustment does allow candidates to do things like I'm suggesting (at least that's what my teacher implied).
The only situation when a call is worthwhile is if no decision is showing. That means they are still thinking about it - and if you are a near-miss it may be worth calling with your raw or UMS marks.
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(Original post by Doonesbury)
They will have had your (and everybody else's) results for some days prior to results day and have had plenty of time to consider their decision. If that decision is a no they won't be changing their mind on the back of a phone call.
The only situation when a call is worthwhile is if no decision is showing. That means they are still thinking about it - and if you are a near-miss it may be worth calling with your raw or UMS marks.
They will have had your (and everybody else's) results for some days prior to results day and have had plenty of time to consider their decision. If that decision is a no they won't be changing their mind on the back of a phone call.
The only situation when a call is worthwhile is if no decision is showing. That means they are still thinking about it - and if you are a near-miss it may be worth calling with your raw or UMS marks.
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(Original post by DrSebWilkes)
Yeah I think I see - I guess there was always the hope that someone'd miss the grades and there'd be a space available if I am proactive enough to ask for it.
Yeah I think I see - I guess there was always the hope that someone'd miss the grades and there'd be a space available if I am proactive enough to ask for it.
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(Original post by DrSebWilkes)
Yeah I think I see - I guess there was always the hope that someone'd miss the grades and there'd be a space available if I am proactive enough to ask for it.
Yeah I think I see - I guess there was always the hope that someone'd miss the grades and there'd be a space available if I am proactive enough to ask for it.
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(Original post by SarcAndSpark)
But presumably you've missed the grades as well? So why should they give this theoretical space to you?
But presumably you've missed the grades as well? So why should they give this theoretical space to you?
EDIT: their offer is A*AA or something like that and I think I can get 3A*A this summer
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(Original post by DrSebWilkes)
No on the contrary, I would have surpassed my grades for adjustment?
EDIT: their offer is A*AA or something like that and I think I can get 3A*A this summer
No on the contrary, I would have surpassed my grades for adjustment?
EDIT: their offer is A*AA or something like that and I think I can get 3A*A this summer
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Oh hold on, so St Andrews already rejected you. And you want to reapply to St Andrews via adjustment if you exceed your firm offer at a different university.
Yes that's possible. But again no guarantee they will accept you. You have nothing to lose, you'd still have your Firm.
Edit: updated, no this isn't an option because St Andrews isn't in Adjustment this year.
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Yes that's possible. But again no guarantee they will accept you. You have nothing to lose, you'd still have your Firm.
Edit: updated, no this isn't an option because St Andrews isn't in Adjustment this year.
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(Original post by DrSebWilkes)
ahh ... I re-read the OP since it seems that you were not the only one with the wrong idea! Sorry I had done a dyslexic 'think of phraseology' which turned into text. Anyway I meant to say the rejected me on UCAS but I think I can go into adjustment this results day, and I want to try to speak to them.
ahh ... I re-read the OP since it seems that you were not the only one with the wrong idea! Sorry I had done a dyslexic 'think of phraseology' which turned into text. Anyway I meant to say the rejected me on UCAS but I think I can go into adjustment this results day, and I want to try to speak to them.
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Oh hold on, so St Andrews already rejected you. And you want to reapply to St Andrews via adjustment if you exceed your firm offer at a different university.
Yes that's possible. But again no guarantee they will accept you. You have nothing to lose, you'd still have your Firm.
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Oh hold on, so St Andrews already rejected you. And you want to reapply to St Andrews via adjustment if you exceed your firm offer at a different university.
Yes that's possible. But again no guarantee they will accept you. You have nothing to lose, you'd still have your Firm.
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So it won't be a waste of time to try to phone them up?
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(Original post by DrSebWilkes)
Yes, that's right. My bad sorry/
So it won't be a waste of time to try to phone them up?
Yes, that's right. My bad sorry/
So it won't be a waste of time to try to phone them up?
Is it guaranteed? No.
Is it a waste of time? No.
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(Original post by DrSebWilkes)
No on the contrary, I would have surpassed my grades for adjustment?
EDIT: their offer is A*AA or something like that and I think I can get 3A*A this summer
No on the contrary, I would have surpassed my grades for adjustment?
EDIT: their offer is A*AA or something like that and I think I can get 3A*A this summer
I think I now understand that they rejected you when you applied last Autumn and you now want to use adjustment to see if they will give you a place.
Adjustment is a separate process to clearing and unis may offer courses in adjustment that are not in clearing. If you exceed your firm offer, then you will be eligible for adjustment and can contact participating unis. If a uni is not participating in adjustment, you can still contact them, but obviously they won't offer you a place.
Unis probably won't make it clear if they're participating in adjustment or not until results day- so don't worry if they don't have courses in clearing yet- it's a separate process.
There aren't any guarantees- but if you do get A*A*A* and the uni is in adjustment, you have a good chance of getting a place.
When you're communicating with unis, try to make sure you're being really clear, instead of using flowery language but obscuring your meaning. If you had similar issues with your PS as you've caused with your initial post, that may have contributed to your initial rejection.
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Ok, your initial post was quite unclear, it made it sound like St Andrews had rejected you when they got your results, and you wanted them to reconsider.
I think I now understand that they rejected you when you applied last Autumn and you now want to use adjustment to see if they will give you a place.
Adjustment is a separate process to clearing and unis may offer courses in adjustment that are not in clearing. If you exceed your firm offer, then you will be eligible for adjustment and can contact participating unis. If a uni is not participating in adjustment, you can still contact them, but obviously they won't offer you a place.
Unis probably won't make it clear if they're participating in adjustment or not until results day- so don't worry if they don't have courses in clearing yet- it's a separate process.
There aren't any guarantees- but if you do get A*A*A* and the uni is in adjustment, you have a good chance of getting a place.
When you're communicating with unis, try to make sure you're being really clear, instead of using flowery language but obscuring your meaning. If you had similar issues with your PS as you've caused with your initial post, that may have contributed to your initial rejection.
Ok, your initial post was quite unclear, it made it sound like St Andrews had rejected you when they got your results, and you wanted them to reconsider.
I think I now understand that they rejected you when you applied last Autumn and you now want to use adjustment to see if they will give you a place.
Adjustment is a separate process to clearing and unis may offer courses in adjustment that are not in clearing. If you exceed your firm offer, then you will be eligible for adjustment and can contact participating unis. If a uni is not participating in adjustment, you can still contact them, but obviously they won't offer you a place.
Unis probably won't make it clear if they're participating in adjustment or not until results day- so don't worry if they don't have courses in clearing yet- it's a separate process.
There aren't any guarantees- but if you do get A*A*A* and the uni is in adjustment, you have a good chance of getting a place.
When you're communicating with unis, try to make sure you're being really clear, instead of using flowery language but obscuring your meaning. If you had similar issues with your PS as you've caused with your initial post, that may have contributed to your initial rejection.
Okay so it's interesting that the universities in clearing are not the same as those in adjustment. I guess I'll have some time to work on my pitch, so to speak.
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