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Would you guys act this way towards your female friends?

This is a weird one and it might very easily be in my head. I've got a boyfriend of 2 years now, and this year I've become friends with this guy who stays at my bf's accommodation. Initially I was distant because the last guy friend I made didn't go well, and after a while this guy and I have become close, in fact he's been close with the whole group including my boyfriend. I feel like he's very supportive and we connect emotionally in the sense that we both romanticise pain and sadness to get through stuff from our childhood (and I know that sounds depressing but he's understanding and so is my boyfriend but this guy has been through similar stuff).

Now recently, my boyfriend's been away and I've been feeling really lonely and hanging out with all our friends but many of them also moved away for the summer, and we've been spending a lot of time together. He's consoled me through a hard time with my abusive parents recently and he stays up through the night with me just drinking and talking and its been nice not being alone. A couple nights ago, we both got really drunk and on our way back I broke down crying about my life being pathetic and he hugged me which is not out of the ordinary because I like hugging my close friends, but this time he kissed my forehead a couple times and I think later the walk he kissed my hand. I know he was really drunk and I know he's done this before with a close friend of his from back home of 5 years who he sees as a little sister. But that kind of raised thoughts in my head about whether he likes me as more than friends, and it might just be in my head because I'm extra sensitive to looking for signs because of how the last few male friendships turned out.

But would you guys ever do that? Kiss the forehead or hand of your female friends (knowing they are dating someone you consider a friend too), even if its just consoling?
Reply 1
im not a guy but i am into girls too and i don't think, knowing she's in a relationship with a close friend, that i would ever try something like that but then again he was really really drunk like you said. maybe try to keep a bit of a distance between you and you should probably tell your boyfriend.
Reply 2
If your "friend" is going through extreme lengths by taking his time to comfort you, then it is clear that he is trying to get with you. No guy would do this unless they are trying to be your boyfriend. You appear naive that you are enabling this type of behaviour from him, but I will say that things will escalate quickly.
Reply 3
Hay! Just had a read through your situation and thought I'd mention my thoughts :smile:. Of course, I'm sure there's even more to the situation (especially with trauma in the mix) but my immediate impression is that perhaps he's just being affectionate and trying to comfort you. Mostly just because you mentioned that he did something similar with the girl he sees as a younger sister. Having been in quite a few similar situations (what you said about getting close to guys as a friend and then having it just absolutely backfires on you), this seems more brotherly than romantic.

And as you mentioned, you both experienced similar trauma and this could also be his way of showing you support while also dealing with potential triggers on his side. Perhaps he couldn't quite use words and wanted to show his feelings instead. However, always remember that you know best! Follow your gut instinct. If you feel like you really treasure him as a friend and don't want to lose him because of being (rightfully so) uncertain due to past experiences, would it be possible to talk to him about it? Or even perhaps to your boyfriend?

Hope you are doing okay and that you find a way to work through this that is healthy for you!
Reply 4
Original post by Anonymous
im not a guy but i am into girls too and i don't think, knowing she's in a relationship with a close friend, that i would ever try something like that but then again he was really really drunk like you said. maybe try to keep a bit of a distance between you and you should probably tell your boyfriend.


yea that's what i'm worried about but he was really drunk and i don't want to ruin what we've all got because i overanalysed something he did or didn't mean to do especially as he's not always the best with words but he does act brotherly in this sense with other close long term female friends of his. I don't want my boyfriend to freak out especially since he's not here. the friend in question has also been a bit distant for the last two days after this incident so i think that is his way of not being alone with me drunk.

Original post by Good Advice
If your "friend" is going through extreme lengths by taking his time to comfort you, then it is clear that he is trying to get with you. No guy would do this unless they are trying to be your boyfriend. You appear naive that you are enabling this type of behaviour from him, but I will say that things will escalate quickly.


yea i'm just not sure what extreme lengths here would be because i feel like i'm biased in both ways - wanting to stay friends and treasure what we've got but also not wanting to look past red flags and end up in the same situation i've been in before with men wanting to sleep with me and not drawing proper boundaries or getting the wrong image. i am naive and i don't want him to be on the wrong end of it either. how would you draw the line between friendly consoling and going through extreme lengths?

Original post by Charizard96
Hay! Just had a read through your situation and thought I'd mention my thoughts :smile:. Of course, I'm sure there's even more to the situation (especially with trauma in the mix) but my immediate impression is that perhaps he's just being affectionate and trying to comfort you. Mostly just because you mentioned that he did something similar with the girl he sees as a younger sister. Having been in quite a few similar situations (what you said about getting close to guys as a friend and then having it just absolutely backfires on you), this seems more brotherly than romantic.

And as you mentioned, you both experienced similar trauma and this could also be his way of showing you support while also dealing with potential triggers on his side. Perhaps he couldn't quite use words and wanted to show his feelings instead. However, always remember that you know best! Follow your gut instinct. If you feel like you really treasure him as a friend and don't want to lose him because of being (rightfully so) uncertain due to past experiences, would it be possible to talk to him about it? Or even perhaps to your boyfriend?

Hope you are doing okay and that you find a way to work through this that is healthy for you!

yea that's what i want to believe, but i also don't want to gaslight myself into thinking its that way and it give the wrong idea. i don't want to scare him away by talking to him about it, but i also don't want my boyfriend to freak and have things become awkward in the friend group? which would you suggest? and thank you for replying.
Reply 5
also for more context, we have more meaningful conversations drunk rather than sober because its easy to open up about things, he is very supportive and understanding, but not always the best with words or messaging back on time, so we talk when we talk but otherwise we just don't. i know he's searching for a girlfriend and he's made out with girls during nights out with the friend group and stuff, he is thankful for being a part of the group and close with my boyfriend and me. when i overthink about my boyfriend and i, he reassures me and reminds me that it is a healthy relationship and is supportive of us. he does give me big brother protective vibes sometimes, from moments he'd show me affection by telling me he'd torture the guy who raped me before, or how he doesn't want me upset and what's to know what's wrong because i don't know the things he'd do for me. but he's also sarcastic in his humour and tells me i'm annoying and childish, and he knows i see him as a big brother and he's told me he'd never get with me when we first became friends after i told him about my previous experiences. he's given up a night with a women he really liked (even though he just met her) to take me to my favourite spot in town after a night out because i was upset, and my boyfriend wasn't there and likes bringing it up randomly. he's one of my closest friends, and he's also joining the military in another year and a half, i'm not going to be in the country next year and after the next couple months, i wouldn't see him for years on end. i don't want to ruin things, should i just pretend to be oblivious of whatever is happening and hope it doesn't escalate?
Original post by Anonymous
also for more context, we have more meaningful conversations drunk rather than sober because its easy to open up about things, he is very supportive and understanding, but not always the best with words or messaging back on time, so we talk when we talk but otherwise we just don't. i know he's searching for a girlfriend and he's made out with girls during nights out with the friend group and stuff, he is thankful for being a part of the group and close with my boyfriend and me. when i overthink about my boyfriend and i, he reassures me and reminds me that it is a healthy relationship and is supportive of us. he does give me big brother protective vibes sometimes, from moments he'd show me affection by telling me he'd torture the guy who raped me before, or how he doesn't want me upset and what's to know what's wrong because i don't know the things he'd do for me. but he's also sarcastic in his humour and tells me i'm annoying and childish, and he knows i see him as a big brother and he's told me he'd never get with me when we first became friends after i told him about my previous experiences. he's given up a night with a women he really liked (even though he just met her) to take me to my favourite spot in town after a night out because i was upset, and my boyfriend wasn't there and likes bringing it up randomly. he's one of my closest friends, and he's also joining the military in another year and a half, i'm not going to be in the country next year and after the next couple months, i wouldn't see him for years on end. i don't want to ruin things, should i just pretend to be oblivious of whatever is happening and hope it doesn't escalate?


Some people say guys and girls can't ever be "just friends" in the strictly platonic sense... they believe at least one party typically has an ulterior motive (N.B. This what some people think, it's not my personal belief... to me, it depends).

I agree with some of the other posts that suggest that his behaviour is going beyond what a mate would do (even a caring one). Granted, he may not be actively trying to seduce you... but (IMHO) it sounds like he's definitely loading the decks. What I mean is he's possibly showing you what a great boyfriend he'd make if you were ever to split up from your current partner.

If it's something you're potentially open to, then by all means bide your time and play it by ear. However; if you're 100% committed to your current boyfriend and will never see him as anything more than a "big-brother" , then you may need to make that perfectly clear, in order to avoid potential complications later on.

So you say this guy is your "friend"... be honest with yourself, is he in the "Friends, maybe more" camp or the "JUST friends" one (friend-zoned lol)
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Original post by Old Skool Freak
Some people say guys and girls can't ever be "just friends" in the strictly platonic sense... they believe at least one party typically has an ulterior motive (N.B. This what some people think, it's not my personal belief... to me, it depends).

I agree with some of the other posts that suggest that his behaviour is going beyond what a mate would do (even a caring one). Granted, he may not be actively trying to seduce you... but (IMHO) it sounds like he's definitely loading the decks. What I mean is he's possibly showing you what a great boyfriend he'd make if you were ever to split up from your current partner.

If it's something you're potentially open to, then by all means bide your time and play it by ear. However; if you're 100% committed to your current boyfriend and will never see him as anything more than a "big-brother" , then you may need to make that perfectly clear, in order to avoid potential complications later on.

So you say this guy is your "friend"... be honest with yourself, is he in the "Friends, maybe more" camp or the "JUST friends" one (friend-zoned lol)


Okay that helps actually, I think he's attractive yes but he is younger than me, I think he's an amazing person but his lack of communication would freak me out and I don't see us dating. I didn't think he was actively trying to seduce me and that just confused me more in why he was treating me the way he was, because I've got other guy friends and I don't get as confused with them, and I wasn't sure if it was just because I am closer with him and we talk more but then again I used to with them as well. I think for the moment I'll pretend i didn't pick up on anything weird and stay friends non-complicated but next time we get drunk and its easier to speak to him, i'll tell him that i don't see him as being more. thank you x
Reply 8
Original post by Anonymous
yea that's what i'm worried about but he was really drunk and i don't want to ruin what we've all got because i overanalysed something he did or didn't mean to do especially as he's not always the best with words but he does act brotherly in this sense with other close long term female friends of his. I don't want my boyfriend to freak out especially since he's not here. the friend in question has also been a bit distant for the last two days after this incident so i think that is his way of not being alone with me drunk.



yea i'm just not sure what extreme lengths here would be because i feel like i'm biased in both ways - wanting to stay friends and treasure what we've got but also not wanting to look past red flags and end up in the same situation i've been in before with men wanting to sleep with me and not drawing proper boundaries or getting the wrong image. i am naive and i don't want him to be on the wrong end of it either. how would you draw the line between friendly consoling and going through extreme lengths?


yea that's what i want to believe, but i also don't want to gaslight myself into thinking its that way and it give the wrong idea. i don't want to scare him away by talking to him about it, but i also don't want my boyfriend to freak and have things become awkward in the friend group? which would you suggest? and thank you for replying.


I totally get that yeah. I mean, we want to see the best people especially when we treasure them. And I can understand why you don't want to bring it up, just in case he reacts badly to it but honestly, I feel like the only reason he'd respond badly rather than having an open conversation about it is because you've hit the nail on the head. If he truly values your friendship, this wouldn't scare him off.

I see a lot of people posting here that men and women can't be friends and although I do think it becomes more difficult when you're older, I don't wholly believe it's true. I have a guy friend who I consider to be one of my best friends of over 8 years. I made it clear early on that although I truly appreciate his friendship, that's all it would ever be. And he respected it without questions asked. He got married a few months go- so proof that he can have female friends and a healthy relationship.

But, and again, you know best. You know this friend and your boyfriend best. However, either way, there will have to be some direct communication. Either to set boundaries or to be completely transparent.
Reply 9
Original post by Charizard96
I totally get that yeah. I mean, we want to see the best people especially when we treasure them. And I can understand why you don't want to bring it up, just in case he reacts badly to it but honestly, I feel like the only reason he'd respond badly rather than having an open conversation about it is because you've hit the nail on the head. If he truly values your friendship, this wouldn't scare him off.

I see a lot of people posting here that men and women can't be friends and although I do think it becomes more difficult when you're older, I don't wholly believe it's true. I have a guy friend who I consider to be one of my best friends of over 8 years. I made it clear early on that although I truly appreciate his friendship, that's all it would ever be. And he respected it without questions asked. He got married a few months go- so proof that he can have female friends and a healthy relationship.

But, and again, you know best. You know this friend and your boyfriend best. However, either way, there will have to be some direct communication. Either to set boundaries or to be completely transparent.


yea that makes sense. early on in our friendship i did tell him that i was tired of having male friends who would end up having ulterior motives, and he told me that i would never have to worry about that because he doesnt want to get with me, and we laughed it off. he could just be brotherly, i also do know that feelings could develop over time and while that was his initial stance, if it changed. did you notice that in your 8 year friendship? just any point where you worried if the dynamic had shifted?

but thank you and i'll bring it up next time we're drunk so it doesn't end up as harsh, and he'd be more honest
Original post by Anonymous
yea that makes sense. early on in our friendship i did tell him that i was tired of having male friends who would end up having ulterior motives, and he told me that i would never have to worry about that because he doesnt want to get with me, and we laughed it off. he could just be brotherly, i also do know that feelings could develop over time and while that was his initial stance, if it changed. did you notice that in your 8 year friendship? just any point where you worried if the dynamic had shifted?

but thank you and i'll bring it up next time we're drunk so it doesn't end up as harsh, and he'd be more honest

I mean, I think there were some feelings on his side when our friendship started. But I think that proves the point even more because, despite that, he respected my wanting to just be friends. I never had to tell him outright either. But, of course, I'll also add that we were never as close as you and your friend are at the start of our friendship. But he also came to realise that if he wanted to keep me in his life, he needed to accept that we would never be a couple. But as I said, this was something he did by himself- I didn't need to intervene as perhaps you might need to.

It's also very possible that perhaps your friend isn't simply 'trying to get with you.' Trauma bonding can be a very powerful thing as I'm sure you've already realised. It may also be difficult for him to separate his feelings as, just like for you, he's now met someone who understands what he's going through and feeling. Those feelings may be difficult and perhaps the only way for him to translate them is to see them as romantic feelings? I'm just spitballing of course but it could be worth considering.
Reply 11
Original post by Charizard96
I mean, I think there were some feelings on his side when our friendship started. But I think that proves the point even more because, despite that, he respected my wanting to just be friends. I never had to tell him outright either. But, of course, I'll also add that we were never as close as you and your friend are at the start of our friendship. But he also came to realise that if he wanted to keep me in his life, he needed to accept that we would never be a couple. But as I said, this was something he did by himself- I didn't need to intervene as perhaps you might need to.

It's also very possible that perhaps your friend isn't simply 'trying to get with you.' Trauma bonding can be a very powerful thing as I'm sure you've already realised. It may also be difficult for him to separate his feelings as, just like for you, he's now met someone who understands what he's going through and feeling. Those feelings may be difficult and perhaps the only way for him to translate them is to see them as romantic feelings? I'm just spitballing of course but it could be worth considering.


yea i get that and thank you for elaborating. yea i know its different and that is why it scares me because it is genuine emotional connection and i feel that towards him too, but at the same time the last time i trauma bonded with a guy i considered a close male friend, he r*aped me and i'm still in therapy for it, which is one of the things i recently told this friend (like he knew it ended badly but i didn't tell him what till a couple days ago) which is also one of the things i broke down about, and he told me how he would torture him if he laid his hand on him. i still think he sees me in a sister-ly way and i'm overanalysing it because of the last incident spiraling out of control?

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