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im good at english
like history
dont mind biology
dont mind french
hate maths
dislike physics and chemistry

SORRY BUT WHAT CAREERS ARE OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME!

MY TEACHERS SEEM TO THINK THAT UNLESS YOU BECOME A DOCTOR OR LAWYER YOU'RE A FAILURE IN LIFE!

ARE THERE NO OTHER CAREERS WHICH MAKE A DECENT AMOUNT OF MONEY!
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im good at english
like history
dont mind biology
dont mind french
hate maths
dislike physics and chemistry

SORRY BUT WHAT CAREERS ARE OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME!
I'm doing a psychology degree and I have the same subject interests as you, except I'm not so keen on history!

English is definitely useful, lots of reports and essays to write, and althought not required, biology is really helpful for the neuroscience side of the course. There is some maths, but we use a statistics package that does all the numbers for us. You only have to have GCSE at grade B/C for most courses.

There's no physics or chemistry involved.

Psychologists aren't as well paid as doctors or lawyers, but occupational psychologists working in the private sector can get up to £25,000 a year.
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SORRY BUT WHAT CAREERS ARE OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME!

MY TEACHERS SEEM TO THINK THAT UNLESS YOU BECOME A DOCTOR OR LAWYER YOU'RE A FAILURE IN LIFE!

ARE THERE NO OTHER CAREERS WHICH MAKE A DECENT AMOUNT OF MONEY!
geeze,do you actually aim for cash only when choosing the appropriate course??
i dontk now about you man but im more into personal interest
and yeah,who ever said that doctors and lawyers made the most money among the other courses?is it cause you saw the glamarous life as a doctor at TV programmes or is it a trend to think that doctors and lawyers earn a lot...and even if you make it as a doctor,it`ll take you almost 10-15 years to earn a very good income...do you actually think its worth it...where your other friends who did business studies and all already established a very stable life...
and yeah,tell your teachers who think that doctors and lawyers are the only successful job that they were very mistaken and you can give them a whole list of other applications which are by far more successful than medicine and law..

and yeah,there seems to be lots of other choices to choose from judging from your interest
such as pharmacy,engineering.food science,bio tech etc.
make a very choice at choosing what kind of job suites you best by making researchs about the job...i would recommend doing a hospital attachment and learn about how these jobs affcts the lives of the people taking it..
im sure you`ll see what you`re made for after the research
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malaysian dude- you are seriously missing my point! and dont try to psychoanalyze me!:- "is it cause you saw the glamarous life as a doctor at TV programmes or is it a trend to think that doctors and lawyers earn a lot".
my use of a rhetorical question in the original post was to show my annoyance as to the fact that people seem to think that if your not going to do law or medicine you're a failure
and also why would i choose pharmacy or engineering when i don't like maths n chem, as was stated in my original post?!
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(Original post by viciouscircle)
im good at english
like history
dont mind biology
dont mind french
hate maths
dislike physics and chemistry

SORRY BUT WHAT CAREERS ARE OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME!

MY TEACHERS SEEM TO THINK THAT UNLESS YOU BECOME A DOCTOR OR LAWYER YOU'RE A FAILURE IN LIFE!

ARE THERE NO OTHER CAREERS WHICH MAKE A DECENT AMOUNT OF MONEY!
i did spanish, eng, chem and history A-levels and now i'm doing a language degree. There are so many things you can do after you graduate and for me there are almost too many possibilites. I'm thinking of journalism though
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malaysian dude- you are seriously missing my point! and dont try to psychoanalyze me!:- "is it cause you saw the glamarous life as a doctor at TV programmes or is it a trend to think that doctors and lawyers earn a lot".
my use of a rhetorical question in the original post was to show my annoyance as to the fact that people seem to think that if your not going to do law or medicine you're a failure
and also why would i choose pharmacy or engineering when i don't like maths n chem, as was stated in my original post?!
no no...in my post..i said that there were more than medicine and law that could turn you successful such as pharmacy,biotech etc.
but since you enjoy bio very much..how bout inching a mere C grade for chem and get into Biotech..what kind of biotech??why not try genetics,food sci. etc.im very sure that you can pick a suitable one there
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Medicine and Law are pretty unique because once you are qualified the chances are you will end up in a job / career that is:

Stable
Well paid
Respected

The problem with working in "business" is that if a company starts doing badly cutbacks follow and there is no guarantee of a new job, atleast with Law and Medicine you have a fallback.
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Medicine and Law are pretty unique because once you are qualified the chances are you will end up in a job / career that is:

Stable
Well paid
Respected

The problem with working in "business" is that if a company starts doing badly cutbacks follow and there is no guarantee of a new job, atleast with Law and Medicine you have a fallback.
there are loads of degrees that one can do, which will have good job prospects.
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Medicine and Law are pretty unique because once you are qualified the chances are you will end up in a job / career that is:

Stable
Well paid
Respected

The problem with working in "business" is that if a company starts doing badly cutbacks follow and there is no guarantee of a new job, atleast with Law and Medicine you have a fallback.
Not law though. I know some people who after graduation are in Italy in a large law firm earning about twice as much as what SHO earns. But others are stuck in Britain earning really low salaries. You only earn loads of money if you work in London/private.
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Not law though. I know some people who after graduation are in Italy in a large law firm earning about twice as much as what SHO earns. But others are stuck in Britain earning really low salaries. You only earn loads of money if you work in London/private.
It is even harder to get into Law in Italy then here...cant remember why but I was speaking to someone last week about this.
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there are loads of degrees that one can do, which will have good job prospects.
My point is that with Medicine / Law you kinda have a "profession". With Business Studies, Managment, Media Studies, History etc... you dont.

I am not slating any subjects, just saying that with Law / Medicine you are already on a career path.
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It is even harder to get into Law in Italy then here...cant remember why but I was speaking to someone last week about this.
Yes, the SHO was complaingin about her pay in relation to her friend in Italy, she got in I expect she deserved it (good degree, showed potential etc) But these cases are rare. What do you do?
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i dunno about you guys,but at my country,the doctors who work at govrnment firms arent paid very ewll even if its after their specialist course...i have so far encountered a doctor from my country which earned about 2000 pounds...thats the most i saw and he has a very good reputation...
how bout the trainees undergoing housemanship??They are just earning a mere 250 pounds....how could you consider that a stable income??
and yet people still take it...and i dont think that they did it out of the interest of money...but more on their personal interest..and i believe thats what finally counts
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i dunno about you guys,but at my country,the doctors who work at govrnment firms arent paid very ewll even if its after their specialist course...i have so far encountered a doctor from my country which earned about 2000 pounds...thats the most i saw and he has a very good reputation...
how bout the trainees undergoing housemanship??They are just earning a mere 250 pounds....how could you consider that a stable income??
and yet people still take it...and i dont think that they did it out of the interest of money...but more on their personal interest..and i believe thats what finally counts
If you are a doctor you will never be out of a job. The world will always need doctors, everywhere you go.

And if you work for about 10-20 years you might be earniong 150k per year, especially if going private.
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fare enough if you had said that a doctor would never be out of his/her job
but then again...whats the point when you`re still earning like 250m pounds per month no matter where you work at..do you think its worth it?
and also...a private hospital does not always accept you just because you`re a doctor...but more like if you`re a 'GOOD' doctor..

oh and yeah,about working for 10-20 years...think of this
5 years for medicine school,1-2 years for housemanship,1-3 years to get license or exposure to your life as a doctor...3 years for a degree at surgery,6-8 years to specialise in maybe cardiology,neurology etc.
now...maybe you can think of earning 120k pounds a year
and it took you almost 20 years to achieve..
now take a look at your friends...cause they might have already gotten into a very high rank in their,maybe CEOs manager,etc and started a family in about 10 years which seems logical...where you have just became a fresh specialist in 20 years...
that would be 2 times more time compared to your friend...
now,do you think thats worth it?
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fare enough if you had said that a doctor would never be out of his/her job
but then again...whats the point when you`re still earning like 250m pounds per month no matter where you work at..do you think its worth it?
and also...a private hospital does not always accept you just because you`re a doctor...but more like if you`re a 'GOOD' doctor..

oh and yeah,about working for 10-20 years...think of this
5 years for medicine school,1-2 years for housemanship,1-3 years to get license or exposure to your life as a doctor...3 years for a degree at surgery,6-8 years to specialise in maybe cardiology,neurology etc.
now...maybe you can think of earning 120k pounds a year
and it took you almost 20 years to achieve..
now take a look at your friends...cause they might have already gotten into a very high rank in their,maybe CEOs manager,etc and started a family in about 10 years which seems logical...where you have just became a fresh specialist in 20 years...
that would be 2 times more time compared to your friend...
now,do you think thats worth it?
Point is that you will never be out of a job. And after 20 years you have a respectable reputation to show for it. Being a manager is not very good as you are under the influence of market forces. and also you can be fired easily. It would take you about 20 years to reach CEO status anyway. If you are lucky.
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My point is that with Medicine / Law you kinda have a "profession". With Business Studies, Managment, Media Studies, History etc... you dont.

I am not slating any subjects, just saying that with Law / Medicine you are already on a career path.
whats wrong with a Physics Degree?
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whats wrong with a Physics Degree?
Um he hasn't said anything about a physics degree
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look malaysian dude obviously things are very different in your country. THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF DOCTORS HERE! - AND THEY *ARE* WELL PAID!! so i have no idea what your ramblin on about how they earn only bla bla bla. and while it might take them so many years to achieve specialist consultant rank they are earning a significant amount of money in the process. And who said doctors can't have families in the mean time just like those in other professions. In fact, I have no idea what you are contributing to this topic- e.g. you keep telling us how much they are in malaysia - it means nothing to us i.e. *uk*-learning.net
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look malaysian dude obviously things are very different in your country. THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF DOCTORS HERE! - AND THEY *ARE* WELL PAID!! so i have no idea what your ramblin on about how they earn only bla bla bla. and while it might take them so many years to achieve specialist consultant rank they are earning a significant amount of money in the process. And who said doctors can't have families in the mean time just like those in other professions. In fact, I have no idea what you are contributing to this topic- e.g. you keep telling us how much they are in malaysia - it means nothing to us i.e. *uk*-learning.net
"when you point out someone else's flaws, you're only ignoring your own"

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