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    (Original post by Rusty33)
    I lol'd at the first quote. And, as for the last quote, that usually stems from having your heart broken too many times before. I am a perfect example. It's almost impossible for me to open up to ANY girl, and it's not because I don't want to. Believe me, I used to be the nice guy. Then, I fell for someone, wanted to spend the rest of my life with them, and BAM. Door.

    From there on out, it's almost impossible. They say not to take it out on the next girl, but it's a lot easier to just close up than it is to deal with that all over again.

    Girls don't like callous guys, but what they don't realize is that they are the ones who make us this way.
    Yeah - guys don't like girls with emotional baggage but it's because of guys that they're so emotional-baggage-y.

    As for my own take on nice/sweet guys, I am currently developing a crush on the nicest, sweetest guy ever ... but he's not a walkover. He's the perfect mix of charming and caring. Awww ...
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    but when he turns out to be everything you ever wanted... you wont want him anymore.
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    Ha! Careful, you almost sounded bitter there.
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    That's not bitterness, that's textbook.
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    You always hear girls taking about how they want a geniune nice guy, but my rant is this: Why do I never find these girls??????

    Lol.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    what do you girls think of nice and sweet guys?
    That they're nice and sweet?
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    (Original post by Talon)
    You always hear girls taking about how they want a geniune nice guy, but my rant is this: Why do I never find these girls??????

    Lol.
    You probably know plenty of these girls, but you're too timid to approach them with confidence and ask them out.

    That would be my guess, at any rate.
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    (Original post by minimo)
    Just my sort, espesh if they are a leetle geeky too. Oh and rosy-cheeked. :love:
    Mine too!
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    (Original post by Squelchy)
    You probably know plenty of these girls, but you're too timid to approach them with confidence and ask them out.

    That would be my guess, at any rate.
    Sometimes you talk a lot of sense (actually most of what i've seen).

    But it's true, you can still be a nice guy and state your intentions with girls. One can be as much of a nice guy as possible, but if they wait around for a girl to approach them; it just won't happen. Then that leads to sentiments that girls don't want nice guys. Just got to stick your foot in the deep end and then after you can be a nice guy.
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    (Original post by Carl1982)
    I think alot of girls would crave a geniune nice guy.
    oooooooo no it's all about the bad boys. See that's attractive. I don't want some guy licking the ground I walk on, smiling at me continuosly and spending all his money on me, and then saying "oh, it's ok I'm broke....because I love you." It takes away anything special. It's nice to sometimes work for what you want.

    I am not saying, that nice and sweet guys, aren't cool sometimes. I just couldn't marry one, that's all.
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    (Original post by Rusty33)
    That's not bitterness, that's textbook.
    Nope, it was bitterness ... Sucks for him that something like this happened to him though. Sorry Jimmy, she probably wasn't worth it, hey!
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    Do genuinely nice guys exist? the ones who worship girls, buy them stuff all the time and proclaim their love only do it out of desperation - not to be genuinely nice. I'd like to think I'm a good guy but to be nice all the time is impossible.
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    (Original post by General Mullet)
    Do genuinely nice guys exist? the ones who worship girls, buy them stuff all the time and proclaim their love only do it out of desperation - not to be genuinely nice. I'd like to think I'm a good guy but to be nice all the time is impossible.
    It's funny how when you ask any guy, he says "I'm a nice guy!"

    It's not as if it's a dichotomy of bad boys and nice guys. It's not black and white, it's a scale, and most people are grey. There's a lot of guys out there who are nice, considerate people, yet have the capacity to be absolute ********s under the right circumstances.

    I would consider myself to be one of those guys. I try to be decent to other people and treat people with respect, and I definitely have no problem showing affection to women, but sometimes I'm a bit too quick to snap at people, sometimes I overreact and am unnecessarily harsh, and sometimes I'm just plain selfish.

    I imagine the majority of guys are not unlike me.
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    good post squelchy

    I'm also suspicious of any male who self titles himself a "nice guy", normally means there's some deceit underneath it

    personally I would rather men tried to be "good men" than "nice men", nice sounds a bit wimpy and subservient....good men = strong men with ethics, morals, integrity. Thats what you want if you're a woman, or what you want to be if you're a man.
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    (Original post by Rusty33)
    Girls don't like callous guys, but what they don't realize is that they are the ones who make us this way.
    You say girls make men that way. Not every lass is like that though. I realise life experience can make people some what cynical towards future partners, but in an ideal world everyone should be given an equal chance!
    It's a viscious circle as the innocent lass or lad that gets into a relationship with these callous people, will get hurt, which breeds yet more people who think, "all lasses/lads are the same!"


    ...my post didn't really go anywhere... but hey, that's life!
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    (Original post by MagicNMedicine)
    good post squelchy

    I'm also suspicious of any male who self titles himself a "nice guy", normally means there's some deceit underneath it

    personally I would rather men tried to be "good men" than "nice men", nice sounds a bit wimpy and subservient....good men = strong men with ethics, morals, integrity. Thats what you want if you're a woman, or what you want to be if you're a man.
    Concur wholeheartedly. I tend to use 'nice' as a synonym for 'sweet' - and that's a plus.
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    haha it was bitterness, but also realism.

    (Original post by General Mullet)
    Do genuinely nice guys exist? the ones who worship girls, buy them stuff all the time and proclaim their love only do it out of desperation - not to be genuinely nice. I'd like to think I'm a good guy but to be nice all the time is impossible.
    its not desperation. being in (the big L word) you do anything and everything for that person. although it usually/always involved one being in it more than another- which will end in the former suffocating the latter.

    people change.

    nice guys exist. but its not what women want- i really believe this. girls have been socialised into thinking guys are moody, like to fight and treat women as 2nd class- and satisfaction comes out of fulfilling those roles, thats my theory.

    thats my nice theory, my not-so-nice theory is that all women are manipulating soul destroying monsters who care only about their accumulation of waelth and commodities.

    im waiting for someone to change my mind.
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    (Original post by Squelchy)
    Same (although nice girls rather than nice guys).

    I've always wanted to like those girls who are basically like bubblegum, always sweet and bubbly, but I just can't handle it. I find the passion comes from a little bit of friction. A woman with her own mind who will tell me to shut up when I need telling, who will call me a **** when I'm acting one, and who isn't shy about saying why she disagrees with me when I say something she does disagree with, is much, much more attractive than a yes woman.
    The idea of nice guys always seems good and they are better for relationships, but I hate the ones that just do what ever you say. Give me someone that's going to argue about what you're going to watch on tv or who's going to cook anyday.
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    nice and sweet guys are the best! i understand the initial attraction of the "bad boy" but after sampling both hehe...I can say that I prefer the nice and sweet much more...plus its been my experience that they treat you a little better
 
 
 
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