Why are a lot of remainers online rude, vulgar and aggressive?

They think they know better, and also that to vote leave you must be stupid so they feel superior to you.

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Burton Bridge

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It's simply the case that stupid people exist, unfortunately remain has become the resting place for the bigoted intellectual snobs.

It's not just remain that has rude, vulgar and aggressive people both sides have their share of idiots. Just remain seem to have more of these so-called liberal, educated, middle class pseudo socialists than leave.

Which is hilarious when you break it down to definition

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Reply 3

OP

Original post by Burton Bridge

It's simply the case that stupid people exist, unfortunately remain has become the resting place for the bigoted intellectual snobs.

It's not just remain that has rude, vulgar and aggressive people both sides have their share of idiots. Just remain seem to have more of these so-called liberal, educated, middle class pseudo socialists than leave.

Which is hilarious when you break it down to definition

It also seems like a particularly London thing. People who have London, capital of spoilt entitlement and disproportionate funding, and Europe as reference points and no investment in the rest of the country. You can also pin it down to people who are not upper class or working class(and hate both) probably if anything lower middles who want to aspire to being above the herd... Thus European is a high class identity. I think we'd be much happier and mutually respectful as Europeans with sovereignty and delineation, but they hate this logic. In their minds, only little Englandees oppose a more homogenized European federal identity. But this is nonsense. I want the best of both world. British sovereignty , power and democracy close to home, and a global connection with the right immigration policy. They are bigoted against these views but I believe narcissism and identity feature more than interest in logic or nuance. They are in fact vulgar rude and entitled in their rejection of logic and nuance. They are also utterly blind to the problems caused to millions of Europeans all over the South, by the EU and the Euro, this dispels the notion it is all about solidarity or altruism.

Reply 4

999tigger

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Original post by SaucissonSecCy

I've noticed a narcissistic, entitled, rude and aggressive type of remainer. The type that caption posts with lots of swearing at our politicians whilst displaying an exaggerated phony respect for European Union ones. They are obsessed with how UK must be in the political structure of Europe and say things like '****ter island' and how they can't wait to be back in Europe. Its a holiday you posted, duh. Of course life going to seem better there. UK Is better to live in in many ways. I feel European, to an extent, but I feel all this hating on independence and insistence on the EU is an identity thing, a way of saying 'I'm better than you'. I realise Britain is unique historically and don't feel a kind of submerged European identity sits well with me. It's nothing to do with empire or power or any of that crap. I find them spoilt, rude vulgar and narcissistic. They seem to exhibit something that's about more than the EU.

Are you saying the same does not go for brexiteers?

Reply 5

Stiff Little Fingers

Original post by SaucissonSecCy

It also seems like a particularly London thing. People who have London, capital of spoilt entitlement and disproportionate funding, and Europe as reference points and no investment in the rest of the country. You can also pin it down to people who are not upper class or working class(and hate both) probably if anything lower middles who want to aspire to being above the herd... Thus European is a high class identity. I think we'd be much happier and mutually respectful as Europeans with sovereignty and delineation, but they hate this logic. In their minds, only little Englandees oppose a more homogenized European federal identity. But this is nonsense. I want the best of both world. British sovereignty , power and democracy close to home, and a global connection with the right immigration policy. They are bigoted against these views but I believe narcissism and identity feature more than interest in logic or nuance. They are in fact vulgar rude and entitled in their rejection of logic and nuance. They are also utterly blind to the problems caused to millions of Europeans all over the South, by the EU and the Euro, this dispels the notion it is all about solidarity or altruism.

So, the deal we had in the EU then? Almost like one of the big problems remainers have is the little englander nonsense about us ever having lost sovereignty or democracy in this country...

Reply 6

Original post by 999tigger

Are you saying the same does not go for brexiteers?

This is acknowledged above, although it is to a much lesser extent. Remainers are very hostile.

Reply 7

OP

Original post by 999tigger

Are you saying the same does not go for brexiteers?

They are a different type. There is vulgarity but the arrogance, the nastier entitlement seems to be these people.

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Original post by Stiff Little Fingers

So, the deal we had in the EU then? Almost like one of the big problems remainers have is the little englander nonsense about us ever having lost sovereignty or democracy in this country...

We did surrender sovereignty: we had no choice but to implement laws dictated to us by a 3rd party, whether they made sense for us or not. I can't remember EU law from my second year (I was very happy to dismiss it from my memory) but there are numerous examples.

Reply 9

999tigger

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Original post by SaucissonSecCy

They are a different type. There is vulgarity but the arrogance, the nastier entitlement seems to be these people.

So really all the nasty ones are remainers. You are a brexiteer. Ok then I see the logic in that.

Reply 10

OP

Original post by Stiff Little Fingers

So, the deal we had in the EU then? Almost like one of the big problems remainers have is the little englander nonsense about us ever having lost sovereignty or democracy in this country...

No not that deal. This is your opinion. And we only had that deal by being an Anomoly, trying to remain in limbo, no more integration, no euro etc. That isn't what the EU is. Theres a reason the richest countries are outside, Iceland solved their crisis outside, southern Europe languishes in the euro etc. All we get though its condescension and uncritical views of the EU. It favours the establishment and the MNCs ruling the world, this is why. I think we have to do one thing or the other. A clean break. We made our wealth through democracy, and global trade, Switzerland and Norway thrive through relative independence, so why with so much evidence for independence and so much against the EU do remainers persist with the same smears and narrow mindedness?

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Original post by 999tigger

So really all the nasty ones are remainers. You are a brexiteer. Ok then I see the logic in that.

In my experience (and its my job to be impartial, I'm good at it) Leavers are mainly frustrated that we voted leave (not leave with a rubbish deal, just leave) years ago and nothing has been done about it. Remainers want to try for best of 3, 5, 7 until they get their way and have aggressive protests about it and generally get very derogatory on social media when they don't get their way.

Reply 12

OP

Original post by Duane2501

In my experience (and its my job to be impartial, I'm good at it) Leavers are mainly frustrated that we voted leave (not leave with a rubbish deal, just leave) years ago and nothing has been done about it. Remainers want to try for best of 3, 5, 7 until they get their way and have aggressive protests about it and generally get very derogatory on social media when they don't get their way.

Exactly. Both sides can be vulgar and nasty. But remainers have the arrogance and entitlement hands down.

Reply 13

Stiff Little Fingers

Original post by Duane2501

We did surrender sovereignty: we had no choice but to implement laws dictated to us by a 3rd party, whether they made sense for us or not. I can't remember EU law from my second year (I was very happy to dismiss it from my memory) but there are numerous examples.

Really not that simple though, since national parliaments still had free reign over how to apply them and the extent to which they were applied (so, for instance given people repeatedly moaned about free movement, while the EU required the free movement of workers, nations still had the freedom to impose restrictions like say having a job within 6 months of arrival or not being able to draw on national benefits - the lack thereof in the UK was a decision at westminster, not brussels), and we still retained control over tax policies, foreign policy, immigration policies, etc. We didn't ever lose sovereignty in any meaningful sense.

Reply 14

Guru Jason

Considering the referendum wasn't legally binding and was built on lies with everyone breaking the rules left right and centre, I'm not surprised that some don't like changing the UKs status quo on a whim especially as no one can agree on what is right or fair.

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OP

We don't have control over immigration, we have free movement and Merkel can be as zealous as she wishes with her historical guilt and mass migration.

Reply 16

Plantagenet Crown

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Most if not all European countries are historically and culturally unique too. Just because they’re part of the EU does not mean they’re not some culturally homogeneous blob.

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Reply 17

999tigger

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Original post by Duane2501

In my experience (and its my job to be impartial, I'm good at it) Leavers are mainly frustrated that we voted leave (not leave with a rubbish deal, just leave) years ago and nothing has been done about it. Remainers want to try for best of 3, 5, 7 until they get their way and have aggressive protests about it and generally get very derogatory on social media when they don't get their way.

Thanks for telling me how good you are at your job.

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Original post by Guru Jason

Considering the referendum wasn't legally binding and was built on lies with everyone breaking the rules left right and centre, I'm not surprised that some don't like changing the UKs status quo on a whim especially as no one can agree on what is right or fair.

We changed the status quo in the 70s based on the very same type of vote, what's the difference?

I didn't listen to any side to be honest, I knew how I wanted to vote before the referendum was even mooted as a possibility. Is it not possible that millions of others did the same, one way or the other (remain or leave)?

This is precisely what people mean, remainers assume leavers are drooling dumba55es who were led along blindly by Farrage and the campaign rather than crediting them with independent thought.

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Stiff Little Fingers