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I have previously volunteered at a BHF Furniture and Electrical Store, and had a dispute with the then warehouse manager (now store manager), who I will call John. John constantly bullied me, presumably because he percieved my performance as poor. To be fair I'll give him that, but only because he set me up to fail by tasking me with what was (for me at the time) an impossible task, and something I gave up with. I then did my own thing and attempted to do something else instead, he then yelled at me in front of other staff.

I called him a ****ing idiot in response and was sacked for gross misconduct as a result. I reported him both to his then line manager (who I will call Jane), and then to the head office, but did not get a favourable outcome.

I then lost my temper and burned the remaining bridge I had by sending a nasty email to that store, in the hope that John would read it. The store then reported it to the Police, and wrote to me informing me that they had done so. They also informed me that they no longer wanted me to enter that particular store, or approach any of the staff or volunteers there given my behaviour.

Can I now take legal action against the BHF, with the intention of getting a volunteer position back at that store, or failing that the discount for volunteers, and the ban overturned?
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Pigs might fly :angelwings:
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Pigs might fly :angelwings:
Indeed. There's also a chance that the sky might fall.

But how is the chance of these events relevant to my post?
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Indeed. There's also a chance that the sky might fall.

But how is the chance of these events relevant to my post?
You were in the wrong.
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You were in the wrong.
True but then again so was John. What can I do?

I take it that I have to accept this bad experience and move on?
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True but then again so was John. What can I do?

I take it that I have to accept this bad experience and move on?
Chalk it up to experience and move on, yes. Even if he is wrong being immature isn't the correct response because it makes you as bad. Use this to be professional next time.
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Chalk it up to experience and move on, yes. Even if he is wrong being immature isn't the correct response because it makes you as bad. Use this to be professional next time.
How should I respond next time? I take it that politely downing tools entirely and leaving the premises would be the best option? That way he will find himself having to work short staffed with one less volunteer.
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How should I respond next time? I take it that politely downing tools entirely and leaving the premises would be the best option? That way he will find himself having to work short staffed with one less volunteer.
I don't know what you mean.
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I don't know what you mean.
What I meant was that I could politely down tools and refuse to continue, then leave the premises instead. I would off course sign myself out for the day so they know I'm not on the premises anymore. Then the manager will find the premises short staffed, and will have to get the job done with one less volunteer.
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I don't think legal action would work without proof. despite him being in the wrong, could you not email and apologize for what you called him?
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...presumably because he percieved my performance as poor. To be fair I'll give him that, but only because he set me up to fail by tasking me with what was (for me at the time) an impossible task, and something I gave up with....
No one was born to be an expert. But fair dos for you for admitting that your perfomance was poor.

Why didn't you ask him or someone else for help, in the first place?

From your post it was (1) Impossible task -> (2) Poor performance -> (3) "Bullying" -> (4) Calling him names -> (5) Sacked -> (6) Email to store -> (7) Police involved.

Finally, why on earth would you want to work / volunteer back at that store again?
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What I meant was that I could politely down tools and refuse to continue, then leave the premises instead. I would off course sign myself out for the day so they know I'm not on the premises anymore. Then the manager will find the premises short staffed, and will have to get the job done with one less volunteer.
Nope, none of that works, walking off site is also a disciplinary issue.

If you believe you are being asked to do something unreasonable at work, say so, ask for the instruction in writing, signed and dated...and the reaction to that is generally pretty telling. Pretty much the second you shout and swear you're done.

Buy the sound of it the letter was more than just rude, and it;s safe to assume you are 100% unwelcome at that store

TBH, Anecdotally, BHF have a pretty bad rep for store/area managers, lots of safes get found low and mangers move store while floor staff are blamed, their drivers are often complicit in a fair bit of theft as well.
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No one was born to be an expert. But fair dos for you for admitting that your perfomance was poor.

Why didn't you ask him or someone else for help, in the first place?

From your post it was (1) Impossible task -> (2) Poor performance -> (3) "Bullying" -> (4) Calling him names -> (5) Sacked -> (6) Email to store -> (7) Police involved.

Finally, why on earth would you want to work / volunteer back at that store again?
Fortunately it didn't come to anything further than that. The answer is because the task i.e. lifting furniture could not be done with any further assistance, in the same way that too many cooks spoil the broth. The working environment was rubbish anyway, and I wouldn't want to go back to the warehouse at that store, or even volunteer in that store anyway. The other staff weren't sufficiently understanding or prepared for my difficulties either, and I had might as well accept that they don't want me back. I don't want to go back anyway.

I have already apologised for my behaviour, and politely asked for a reconsideration of the ban given that I have promised that it won't happen again. They said no because my course of conduct was so egregious which means that they will not consider changing the status of it.

All I want to do is to be able to go to that store again at some point in my life. Even if I don't buy anything, the freedom of being able to browse would be good.
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Fortunately it didn't come to anything further than that. The answer is because the task i.e. lifting furniture could not be done with any further assistance, in the same way that too many cooks spoil the broth.
So why not say so (in a polite way)? Or ask for the further assistance (again politely)?

The working environment was rubbish anyway, and I wouldn't want to go back to the warehouse at that store, or even volunteer in that store anyway.
So why ask in your first post? You are contradicting yourself. If it's that bad it's no big loss anyway.

The other staff weren't sufficiently understanding or prepared for my difficulties either, and I had might as well accept that they don't want me back. I don't want to go back anyway.
Well you clearly do, since you asked...

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...Can I now take legal action against the BHF, with the intention of getting a volunteer position back at that store...
I have already apologised for my behaviour, and politely asked for a reconsideration of the ban given that I have promised that it won't happen again. They said no because my course of conduct was so egregious which means that they will not consider changing the status of it.

All I want to do is to be able to go to that store again at some point in my life. Even if I don't buy anything, the freedom of being able to browse would be good.
Go to another BHF store, it's not that difficult. It'll be so awkward and I can understand their point of view.

Until you also understand why, I can see why they will continue to ban you.
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What I meant was that I could politely down tools and refuse to continue, then leave the premises instead. I would off course sign myself out for the day so they know I'm not on the premises anymore. Then the manager will find the premises short staffed, and will have to get the job done with one less volunteer.
But I thought you were gone for your behaviour already.
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But I thought you were gone for your behaviour already.
Probably asking about next time - but "politely downing tools and refusing the continue, leaving the premises instead" would not be ideal in any circumstances.
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But I thought you were gone for your behaviour already.
I was asking more about how to deal with the same scenario if I encounter it next time.
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Go to another BHF store, it's not that difficult. It'll be so awkward and I can understand their point of view.

Until you also understand why, I can see why they will continue to ban you.
Lot of contradictions in this story.
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I was asking more about how to deal with the same scenario if I encounter it next time.
Ask for help instead rather than huff about it and do whatever you want. Don't just refuse to do anything.
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So why not say so (in a polite way)? Or ask for the further assistance (again politely)?



So why ask in your first post? You are contradicting yourself. If it's that bad it's no big loss anyway.



Well you clearly do, since you asked...





Go to another BHF store, it's not that difficult. It'll be so awkward and I can understand their point of view.

Until you also understand why, I can see why they will continue to ban you.
1) OK then I think I will next time. I didn't at the time for various reasons, without going into too much detail I will explain that I feel that my difficulties played a part in that, I was also quite young (only 17) at the time.
2) I suppose so. It's just that I changed my mind.
3) Not anymore. Having thought it through the working environment is pretty **** anyway.
4) Yes fair enough. What would be so awkward by the way?
5) Understand why what?
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