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I am starting y13 in September and do Business,media and sociology as A level subjects. Does anyone have uni reconmendations for either law or business management courses ( both ambitious and safer unis )
Original post by vicstar1011
I am starting y13 in September and do Business,media and sociology as A level subjects. Does anyone have uni reconmendations for either law or business management courses ( both ambitious and safer unis )


Law and business degrees don't require you to have specific subjects for A Level, so almost any degree in those disciplines is fair game.

You might struggle to get into the more academic institutions (usually top end unis) with media as it's not considered one of the more academic subjects. However, that still means you have the option of pretty much doing law or business at pretty much any other unis in the country.

My recommendation would be to aim for top end unis if you can. However, this would depend on various factors such as your grades, your personal statement, and whether you want to trek all the way to the other side of the country. For undergrad business subjects, Bath, Warwick, UCL, LSE, Durham, Manchester, Bristol, Lancaster come to mind. I am not too sure about law.

I do have to point out the following:

If you do a law degree, I strongly recommend it's an LLB as opposed to a BA, which has fewer law modules and won't be accepted for applications to become a barrister

If you do a business management degree at undergrad level, you can't do it as a master's (you can do an MBA though, just not the MSc)

You need the equivalent of a degree to become a solicitor, but you need a law degree (or PGDL) to become a barrister

You don't need a degree to go into business, work in business, become a solicitor, work in legal

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Reply 2
Look at Unis like Sussex, Loughborough, Liverpool - and make sure you have 5 choices with a range of grade requirements compared to your predicted grades.

More helpful info - How to Avoid 5 Rejections: https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/university/apply/how-to-avoid-getting-five-university-rejections
Hi!

I'll let other students give you the recommendations, but when it comes to choosing your university, I would recommend a few things:

Firstly, look online either at UCAS.com or on university websites. These pages will have info on the courses offered, entry requirements, and curriculum. You will also want to look at extracurricular activities (e.g. sport, music) as that is also a big part of uni life.

Once you have an idea of what universities you like, order a prospectus. You will be able to do this from most uni websites. Ask questions about them online, think about what you want from uni. Do you want to move away? Do you want to live in a big city? City-based uni or campus-based uni? etc.

Most importantly, book on to as many open days as possible. Open days give you the chance to look at the campus/accommodation and get a feel for the area, but you will also get to speak to the lecturers and see the facilities available for, in your case, either Law or Business Management.

Feel free to ask if you have any questions!
Mike
Reply 4
Original post by MindMax2000
Law and business degrees don't require you to have specific subjects for A Level, so almost any degree in those disciplines is fair game.

You might struggle to get into the more academic institutions (usually top end unis) with media as it's not considered one of the more academic subjects. However, that still means you have the option of pretty much doing law or business at pretty much any other unis in the country.

My recommendation would be to aim for top end unis if you can. However, this would depend on various factors such as your grades, your personal statement, and whether you want to trek all the way to the other side of the country. For undergrad business subjects, Bath, Warwick, UCL, LSE, Durham, Manchester, Bristol, Lancaster come to mind. I am not too sure about law.

I do have to point out the following:

If you do a law degree, I strongly recommend it's an LLB as opposed to a BA, which has fewer law modules and won't be accepted for applications to become a barrister

If you do a business management degree at undergrad level, you can't do it as a master's (you can do an MBA though, just not the MSc)

You need the equivalent of a degree to become a solicitor, but you need a law degree (or PGDL) to become a barrister

You don't need a degree to go into business, work in business, become a solicitor, work in legal


thanks for the information, I'm leaning more towards doing law in uni but the unis you suggested for business were very helpful to me
Original post by vicstar1011
thanks for the information, I'm leaning more towards doing law in uni but the unis you suggested for business were very helpful to me


As far as top universities are concerned you might struggle due to your choice of subjects. Universities have a list of preferred subjects and media isnt one of them. It is considered a soft subject. Some universities see business as a soft subject although UCL dont. This is something you need to ask potential universities about as you wont have 2 preferred subjects. The other issue with Law is some universities expect the LNAT. Are you taking that and what are your predicted grades.

It is impossible to advise on universities as people have different requirements, Think about how close or far away from home you want to be. Do you want to be in a small or big city. Would you prefer to be at a campus university or one spread across a city. These together with your predicted grades and your week choice of subjects will determine on what universities to look at.

What you can probably best do is to look at the Complete university guide and work through the league table looking at what suits you best and work from there..
Lancaster University offer both a Law and a Business Management course, neither of which require any specific A level subjects.

-Kao (Lancaster Maths & Stats Student Ambassador)
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My predicted grades are AAB, and I have no idea what the LNAT so could you kindly explain what that is please.
Original post by swanseajack1
As far as top universities are concerned you might struggle due to your choice of subjects. Universities have a list of preferred subjects and media isnt one of them. It is considered a soft subject. Some universities see business as a soft subject although UCL dont. This is something you need to ask potential universities about as you wont have 2 preferred subjects. The other issue with Law is some universities expect the LNAT. Are you taking that and what are your predicted grades.

It is impossible to advise on universities as people have different requirements, Think about how close or far away from home you want to be. Do you want to be in a small or big city. Would you prefer to be at a campus university or one spread across a city. These together with your predicted grades and your week choice of subjects will determine on what universities to look at.

What you can probably best do is to look at the Complete university guide and work through the league table looking at what suits you best and work from there..
Original post by swanseajack1
As far as top universities are concerned you might struggle due to your choice of subjects. Universities have a list of preferred subjects and media isnt one of them. It is considered a soft subject. Some universities see business as a soft subject although UCL dont. This is something you need to ask potential universities about as you wont have 2 preferred subjects. The other issue with Law is some universities expect the LNAT. Are you taking that and what are your predicted grades.

It is impossible to advise on universities as people have different requirements, Think about how close or far away from home you want to be. Do you want to be in a small or big city. Would you prefer to be at a campus university or one spread across a city. These together with your predicted grades and your week choice of subjects will determine on what universities to look at.

What you can probably best do is to look at the Complete university guide and work through the league table looking at what suits you best and work from there..

Only UCL and LSE have (published) preferred subject lists, and media studies is on UCL's preferred subject list (as is business studies). LSE considers both business studies and media studies non-preferred though.
Original post by vicstar1011
My predicted grades are AAB, and I have no idea what the LNAT so could you kindly explain what that is please.


It's an admissions test, some unis require it for law, others do not. Website here: https://lnat.ac.uk/

You need to check on the individual university webpages to see if they require the LNAT or not. If none of the ones you want to apply to require it, you don't need to take it (and it's not a qualification, so taking it when a university doesn't require it confers no benefit).
Original post by vicstar1011
My predicted grades are AAB, and I have no idea what the LNAT so could you kindly explain what that is please.


Hiya, the LNAT is the national admissions test for law, which only very few universities require if you’re applying for their law course- eg cambridge, bristol, durham.

It is a test that you sit and you do not need any law knowledge to sit it. It is split into 2 parts- part A is a multiple choice question section in which you have sets of 3 or 4 MCQ’s on a particular extract/short piece of text. I believe there is 42 questions in total. It’s not the sort of test one typically gets full marks on, for example, I believe the average this year was around 23. The second section (part B) is writing a short essay based on a statement given to you (you have multiple to choose from). There is no formal score you are given, but universities mark them independently.

Have a look at what unis you are interested in and check to see if any of them require the LNAT. You can google on the official LNAT site to see the short list of all the unis who require it, as well as more advice and support related to the LNAT. I sat it this year and got offers from Durham and Bristol, so feel free to ask any questions :smile:
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Original post by artful_lounger
Only UCL and LSE have (published) preferred subject lists, and media studies is on UCL's preferred subject list (as is business studies). LSE considers both business studies and media studies non-preferred though.


They arent the only ones. Sheffield publishes a list as does Birmingham for Law.

The table below lists A Level subjects which develop the knowledge-based, theoretical and conceptual learning most relevant to courses at Sheffield. Some of our courses will require A Level students to present one or two A levels from this list. In these cases the requirement will be included in the relevant online prospectus entry.

Students studying the Advanced Diploma plus one A Level, the Welsh Baccalaureate plus two A Levels, or Level 3 BTECs with A Levels, are normally required to present A Level subjects from this list only.

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Accounting Geology
Biology Government and Politics
Business Studies History
Classics Languages*
Chemistry Law
Computer Science Mathematics
Economics Music
English Language Philosophy
English Literature Physics
English Language and Literature (Combined) Psychology
Environmental Studies Religious Studies
Further Mathematics Sociology
Geography Theatre/Performance Studies (including Drama and Theatre Studies Combined)
*Languages includes modern foreign/community languages taken as individual subjects (for example French, Spanish, Urdu, Gujarati) and classical languages (for example Biblical Hebrew, Latin). For some courses, we may not be able to accept a language qualification designed for non-native speakers when presented by a native speaker. Where this is the case, it will be indicated in the relevant course listing in our online prospectus. Affected students should contact the Admissions Service for advice on the suitability of their qualifications portfolio.

A Level Subjects Acceptable in Combinatio
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Original post by swanseajack1
They arent the only ones. Sheffield publishes a list as does Birmingham for Law.


Sheffield's list only limits those that are purely applied or vocational, a whole 12 subjects - of note neither media studies nor business studies listed.

I did not know about the Birmingham list for law though, which is useful to know :smile:
Original post by artful_lounger
Sheffield's list only limits those that are purely applied or vocational, a whole 12 subjects - of note neither media studies nor business studies listed.

I did not know about the Birmingham list for law though, which is useful to know :smile:


We prefer applications from students offering at least two A levels from our list of preferred subjects:

Accounting, Ancient History, Anthropology, Archaeology, Biology, Business Studies, Chemistry, Classical Civilisation, Computing, Drama and Theatre Studies, Economics, English Language, English Language and Literature, English Literature, Environmental Science, Environmental Studies, Further Mathematics, Geography, Geology, Government and Politics, History, History of Art,bove list is Briminghams law subject list Human Biology, Law, Mathematics, Medieval History, Modern or Classical Languages, Music, Philosophy, Physics, Psychology, Religious Studies, Sociology, Statistics, World Development

Oxford and Cambridge have restrictions as well and I think Imperial as well but I dont know if they are published. The above list is Birminghams for law
Here is Cambridge policy on subjects

Best A level subjects and combinations if you’re interested in arts, social science or humanities courses at Cambridge
Arts, social science and humanities subjects include art, English, languages, music, archaeology, philosophy, politics, economics, education and law.

We recommend that you choose at least one of these A levels:

English Language or English Literature
a language, such as French, German, Spanish or Latin
History
Mathematics, which is useful for many courses at Cambridge, including Law
Other A level subjects you could take:

an extra language
Ancient History
Classical Civilisation
Economics
Further Mathematics
Geography
Politics
History of Art
Law
Music
Philosophy
Psychology
Religious Studies
Best A level subjects and combinations if you’re interested in Maths or Science courses at Cambridge
Maths and science subjects include Further Mathematics, Physics, Biology, Chemistry, Chemical Engineering, Engineering and Medicine.

We recommend that you choose at least 2 of these A levels:

Biology
Chemistry, which is useful if you want to study Chemical Engineering, Biological Sciences or Medical Sciences
Physics
Mathematics
Further Mathematics, which is essential if you want to study Mathematics and useful if you want to study Engineering, Economics, Chemical Engineering, Computer Science or Natural Sciences (if you want to specialise in Physics). If your school doesn’t offer Further Mathematics and you live in England, you can join the Further Mathematics Support Programme.
Other A Level subjects you could take:

Computer Science
Electronics
Psychology
Less helpful A levels and IB subjects
Undergraduate courses at Cambridge are more academic than vocational. Vocational courses are more practical and hands on, while academic courses are more traditional and focus on theory.

If you want to study at Cambridge it’s less useful to choose:

Vocational A levels and IB subjects related to a specific profession or career, such as Business, Photography, Performing Arts and Media Studies.
A level Critical Thinking and Key Skills. We don’t count these subjects as an A level, but you could take it as your fourth subject.
If you're not taking A levels or IB
Find out more about the different qualifications that we accept, combining qualifications, and any requirements that you may need to meet.

Check our entry requirements.

Other things to consider
We don’t just look at which A levels or subjects you’ve studied. We look at other things you’ve been doing too, such as extra reading about the subject you’re interested in or taking part in activities related to it.

Find out how to make a great application to Cambridge.

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Original post by swanseajack1
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That's from Cambridge's guidance for students who haven't started doing A-levels who aren't sure what they might want to study. Which is not quite the same as a list of preferred subjects for admission.

Also I'd point out as OP is predicted AAB, they aren't going to be a competitive applicant for LSE, Cambridge, or UCL in any event for law.
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Original post by artful_lounger
That's from Cambridge's guidance for students who haven't started doing A-levels who aren't sure what they might want to study. Which is not quite the same as a list of preferred subjects for admission.

Also I'd point out as OP is predicted AAB, they aren't going to be a competitive applicant for LSE, Cambridge, or UCL in any event for law.

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