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Reply 120
Feral Beast
Yes, that's right, contribute something original. :rolleyes:


Really now, after 100+ posts its hard to

An opinion has been asked for, an opinion was given, enough really
a_t
Great Personality + BNP voter

Mutually exclusive

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youre narrow-minded, i think most british people see sense in some of the BNP's policies
a_t
Great Personality + BNP voter

Mutually exclusive

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Good luck getting a job in the legal profession, with that kind of bigoted attitude.

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Reply 123
adamdivine
youre narrow-minded, i think most british people see sense in some of the BNP's policies


Yes my mind is very closed to BNP policies, I freely admit that

Their disregard for human rights, their desire to reinstate capital punishment, their woeful understanding of how a global market works, their policy to withdraw from the EU, the fact that they want to completely cut of foreign aid, the fact that they want to pour money into arms and the military and the entire racist subculture that surrounds the BNP

I am opposed to all of this, and glad to be so
superfical space cadet
Note I said actual neo nazi, Nick Griffin, is a racist **** no doubt about it, but he's not a neo nazi.



Nick Griffin, talking about the Holocaust:

“I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated or turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the earth is flat…I have reached the conclusion that the ‘extermination’ tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter day witch-hysteria.”

And homosexuals

"The TV footage of dozens of gay demonstrators flaunting their perversions in front of the world's journalists showed just why so many ordinary people find these creatures so repulsive."

And non whites:

“Without the White race, nothing matters. [Other right-wing parties] believe that the answer to the race question is integration and a futile attempt to create “Black Britons”, while we affirm that non-Whites have no place here at all and will not rest until every last one has left our land”

On democracy:

The electors of Millwall did not back a Post-Modernist Rightist Party, but what they perceived to be a strong, disciplined organisation with the ability to back up its slogan 'Defend Rights for Whites' with well-directed boots and fists. When the crunch comes, power is the product of force and will, not of rational debate


Common signs of a neo nazi...behaving like a, er, nazi.

But to bring it back on topic, I don't think it's unnatural to be put off by someone who supports a party filled with beliefs like that.
Democracy
Nick Griffin, talking about the Holocaust:

“I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated or turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the earth is flat…I have reached the conclusion that the ‘extermination’ tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter day witch-hysteria.”

And homosexuals

"The TV footage of dozens of gay demonstrators flaunting their perversions in front of the world's journalists showed just why so many ordinary people find these creatures so repulsive."

And non whites:

“Without the White race, nothing matters. [Other right-wing parties] believe that the answer to the race question is integration and a futile attempt to create “Black Britons”, while we affirm that non-Whites have no place here at all and will not rest until every last one has left our land”

On democracy:

The electors of Millwall did not back a Post-Modernist Rightist Party, but what they perceived to be a strong, disciplined organisation with the ability to back up its slogan 'Defend Rights for Whites' with well-directed boots and fists. When the crunch comes, power is the product of force and will, not of rational debate


Common signs of a neo nazi...behaving like a, er, nazi.

But to bring it back on topic, I don't think it's unnatural to be put off by someone who supports a party filled with beliefs like that.



And still none of that makes him neo nazi :s-smilie: Nick Griffin sold his soul for votes, no true neo nazi will have anything to do with the BNP, the people who are misguided enough to vote for them are the ones that know ******** all about actual nationalism but blame 'the foreigners' for everything.
superfical space cadet
And still none of that makes him neo nazi :s-smilie: Nick Griffin sold his soul for votes, no true neo nazi will have anything to do with the BNP,


Let's see...homophobia, racism, xenophobia, wanting to use violence on his political opponents, Holocaust denial....those are definitely all characteristics of neo nazis. Oh, and there's the fact that he's in a party stuffed with people who fit the above description, including their founder who used to enjoy dressing up as a Nazi and called Mein Kampf his "Bible".

the people who are misguided enough to vote for them are the ones that know ******** all about actual nationalism but blame 'the foreigners' for everything.


Okay...that doesn't necessarily make the BNP not neo nazi though. You are aware of what national socialism is right?

I admit there are definitely other groups out there, the NF and such who are far more neo nazi than the BNP...but that doesn't mean the BNP aren't neo nazis, it just means they've gone for the subtle approach of ditching their jackboots and wearing suits. Deep down they believe the same nonsense though, as evidenced by the countless undercover journalist exposés which have shown the leaders and their supporters to be ardent Nazi sympathisers.
DannyBoy123
I really don't think someones political views should influence your decision on someones personality. It always amazes me on here how many so called 'liberal' individuals shudder at the thought of conversing with a Tory, as if that makes them intrinsically bad people.

People change their political views anyway - personally I have moved from being a Tory, to something of a centrist, an anarchist and a communist and now I simply don't know what to think anymore other than I hate political parties.


I know exactly what you mean. I'm in general very liberal, and my husband is very old-school conservative. If I had let his opinions on how the world would be made a better place stop me from getting into a relationship with him....I would have let someone very special pass me by. I think it's prudent to remember that everyone wants a peaceful, prosperous world....but especially when it comes to economics, people have differing opinions on how to make it this way. It's the person's desire to make something better that attracts me to them.....not their chosen path (assuming its an ethical one) of getting there.
Democracy
Let's see...homophobia, racism, xenophobia, wanting to use violence on his political opponents, Holocaust denial....those are definitely all characteristics of neo nazis. Oh, and there's the fact that he's in a party stuffed with people who fit the above description, including their founder who used to enjoy dressing up as a Nazi and called Mein Kampf his "Bible".



Okay...that doesn't necessarily make the BNP not neo nazi though. You are aware of what national socialism is right?

I admit there are definitely other groups out there, the NF and such who are far more neo nazi than the BNP...but that doesn't mean the BNP aren't neo nazis, it just means they've gone for the subtle approach of ditching their jackboots and wearing suits. Deep down they believe the same nonsense though, as evidenced by the countless undercover journalist exposés which have shown the leaders and their supporters to be ardent Nazi sympathisers.


Of course I'm aware of what national socialism is. All I'm saying is, while the BNP may be racist, proper Nazi's wont have anything to do with them. To an outsider it may seem like they are the same but if your a Nazi you will not vote BNP. Theres more to being a national socialist than wearing DM's and zeig heiling to pictures Hitler.

To get back on topic, the reason I mentioned this was to let the OP know that the stereotypical view of the BNP is far from accurate ask her what her views are before judging her as a nazi.
Anonymous
So, all BNP members are racist Nazis? Just like all Muslims are extremists, wanting to take over Britain? :rolleyes:

Most of the BNP's recent members are merely disgruntled, disillusioned working classes who have lost their jobs or are so shocked by the mass immigration that they feel they can find no solution with the major political parties. Don't just brandish them as racists, because you disagree with their point of view.
The double standards on this forum are incredible. It's seemingly unacceptable to generalise a certain group of people or tarnish them with the same brush (usually Muslims), yet it is then acceptable to generalise another. You lot really do need to practice what you preach, your hypocrisy is repulsive.


I'm not being funny man, but asking people who are anything other than white to leave the country is pretty much racism...

Eithr way if those people were on the ball they wouldn't want to be associated with anything that could be seen as racist...that's just common sense, isn't it? :confused:

Calling a BNP member a biggot is likely to be a very different thing to calling a muslim a terrorist...that's not a comparison that supports what you're saying at all man
This fascist bitch,
Must be ditched,
Heavens above, it's true.
And a fascist kid?
God forbid!
Especially if you're a Jew!
Reply 131
Anonymous

Basically, I just don't dig her as much as I used to, now I know who she votes for :confused:


You're quite pathetic then, tbh.
Anonymous
So, all BNP members are racist Nazis? Just like all Muslims are extremists, wanting to take over Britain? :rolleyes:

Oooh, and like all KKK members hate black people, and all nazis hate Jews?

:rolleyes:


The thing with racist organizations is that if you're a member of them or vote for them politically... you probably agree with them, and therefore, are a racist yourself.
Reply 133
Going out with someone who votes BNP is wrong, it says so many bad things about their personality.
If they truely agree with the parties agenda and what it stands for then they should be avoided at all costs, as friends and especially in a relationship. Remember, in a relationship you've got to love one another, and that's not gonna happen if one person is racist, anti-gay and a support of the man quoted above.

You need to confront her about her beliefs and find out if they're true or not. If they are, run.
Reply 134
Anonymous
For your information, I'm the only person who she has trusted enough to let on that she is a BNP follower. Must be interesed in me a little bit. :wink:

(And before you make funny comments about me telling you all on TSR, note that I'm anonymous:rolleyes: )

And for the guy who said I must have no political opinion, owing to the fact that I'm asking about this on TSR. Get a grip! As you can hopefully appreciate, this is a big deal for me, and I can't discuss it properly with my friends, cos then they would know about her BNP beliefs. Thus I am getting advice on here. Also, if I had no political views, why would this be an issue for me?! Think before you post!


okay here's some more helpfull advice: it doesn't matter who she votes for don't categorise people on who they vote for just go for it :wink:
Intresting how this thread has created such an uproar of opinion, but i guess wheneve something is connected to politics or religion it causes problems, its a shame that humanity still feels the needs to include both such out of date and barbaric forms of control on its populations.
Reply 136
adamdivine
youre narrow-minded, i think most british people see sense in some of the BNP's policies


No one I know does, in fact we mercilessly abused one of our friends who voted BNP until he stopped being a prick. Eventually he married a Chinese lady. good for him. You have to weed out the wheat from the chaff in a persons crazy mixed up mind, bigotry and intolerance does nothing but sow the seeds of more bigotry and intolerance. I'd seriously consider not going out with a BNP supporter unless she was slightly crazy and so sexually liberated as to make a whore blush, but then I am that shallow, seriously, my gonads are wirelessly plugged into my primitive lower brain function without the need for useless filtering processes.
SillyFencer
Well he has to come onto an internet forum just to decide whether or not to like a girl...


He could merely be seeking advice and opinions?! It's not as if he'd done a poll and was going to act according to the result.
Frodz
Then that is a problem with your imagination.......



Well how would you define 'liberal' then? I meant 'liberal' in the sense that you don't judge people by superficial traits, such as race and nationality and you don't make biased assumptions about them. Someone voting BNP will very likely do these things however.

(Unless she is voting for them resulting from an unconsidered opinion as others pondered. But that would signal that she is not highly intelligent, which for me would clash with having a 'great personality'.)
wholenewworld
Well how would you define 'liberal' then? I meant 'liberal' in the sense that you don't judge people by superficial traits, such as race and nationality and you don't make biased assumptions about them. Someone voting BNP will very likely do these things however.

(Unless she is voting for them resulting from an unconsidered opinion as others pondered. But that would signal that she is not highly intelligent, which for me would clash with having a 'great personality'.)


You know the BNP's policies are not all "KILL NON BRATASH PAPLE!!!" She could be voting because of their economic policies as a protest on how Labour have failed the working classes, or on crime policies etc.
Maybe before you say you don't like lack of intellect you should gain some common sense yourself and realise the BNP is not a single issue party.

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