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Depressed; I Want To Take My Hijab Off
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Original post by Legendary Quest
You added brackets that were never there to begin with. Look at you, altering Allah's words. Astaqfurallah.
Before judging me, and jumping to conclusions, do some research
What I typed was simply copied and pasted from the authentic Islamic website. (islam Q info)
The brackets are there to explain what the quote means, in much simpler words
Fgs, think before you point fingers
(edited 7 years ago)
Original post by GreenNinjaa
Before judging me, and jumping to conclusions, do some research
What I typed was simply copied and pasted from the authentic Islamic website. (islam Q info)
The brackets are there to explain what the quote means, in much simpler words
Fgs, think before you point fingers
What I typed was simply copied and pasted from the authentic Islamic website. (islam Q info)
The brackets are there to explain what the quote means, in much simpler words
Fgs, think before you point fingers
"And tell the believing women to subdue their eyes, and maintain their chastity. They shall not reveal any parts of their bodies, except that which is necessary. They shall cover their chests, (with their Khimar) and shall not relax this code in the presence of other than their husbands, their fathers..." [24:31]
Your brackets were unnecessary. The verse itself doesn't say anything about covering your face.
Original post by GreenNinjaa
Before judging me, and jumping to conclusions, do some research
What I typed was simply copied and pasted from the authentic Islamic website. (islam Q info)
The brackets are there to explain what the quote means, in much simpler words
Fgs, think before you point fingers
What I typed was simply copied and pasted from the authentic Islamic website. (islam Q info)
The brackets are there to explain what the quote means, in much simpler words
Fgs, think before you point fingers
the Google Sheikh is strong with this one
Islam Q info? Could you please link me to this site? Or did you mean IslamQA?
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(edited 7 years ago)
Original post by Plantagenet Crown
I'm speaking about the West and even in the Islamic world the majority of Muslim men don't go round wearing that on their head. And no, I didn't say or imply it was a bad thing, you made up that interpretation yourself.
there's no point replying to u seeing as u never read my comments. If u did u would of at least searched and saw that nearly everyone in the UAE (male) wear those headwear. You would have seen quite a few religious people wear it all the time outside.
"again, anyone who lives in the real world knows that most Muslim men don't wear that. We're not retarded people that you can lie to you know." That bold bit does not imply a bad interpretation at all (sarcasm). And you keep saying the the muslim world or countries when you don't understand that i'm saying the UAE not other islamic countries such as pakistan bangladesh etc.
When u first commented about this u did because someone else had said (some muslim men wear these similar headwear too) i mean what was so bad in that that you had to correct them.
Original post by yhyh
there's no point replying to u seeing as u never read my comments. If u did u would of at least searched and saw that nearly everyone in the UAE (male) wear those headwear. You would have seen quite a few religious people wear it all the time outside.
"again, anyone who lives in the real world knows that most Muslim men don't wear that. We're not retarded people that you can lie to you know." That bold bit does not imply a bad interpretation at all (sarcasm). And you keep saying the the muslim world or countries when you don't understand that i'm saying the UAE not other islamic countries such as pakistan bangladesh etc.
When u first commented about this u did because someone else had said (some muslim men wear these similar headwear too) i mean what was so bad in that that you had to correct them.
"again, anyone who lives in the real world knows that most Muslim men don't wear that. We're not retarded people that you can lie to you know." That bold bit does not imply a bad interpretation at all (sarcasm). And you keep saying the the muslim world or countries when you don't understand that i'm saying the UAE not other islamic countries such as pakistan bangladesh etc.
When u first commented about this u did because someone else had said (some muslim men wear these similar headwear too) i mean what was so bad in that that you had to correct them.
Again, no they don't. I didn't mention specific countries, just said that most Muslim men in the Islamic world and the West don't wear that and you're not convincing anyone that they do.
Correcting someone when they make an absurd claim is not the same thing thing as calling the subject of the assertion bad.
Any words of reassurance? Advice? Anything?
I am a hijaabi myself and I have been tempted to ake it off. However, I get reminded and I have found inspiration. I also feel the need to eep it on especially at a time like this when Islam is a hated religion as though I should be a proud Muslim girl who represents her religion. As for you, talk to someone about it. Find a Mu'alimah. (Masjid teacher. I have one I keep in touch with and she is very gentle. If you want, I will ask if I can pass on her number to you.)
I also think you should do some research. Why you wear it, and to find inspiration. Remember, this is a test, no matter how hard it is, Allah SWA will guide you through it. The harder it is, the more you remind yourself that Allah SWA is testing you. It's modesty, as you mentioned, But when you start to step away, take off the hijaab and claim you can still stay modest without it, remember that it gets easier to stop other things. You may start to say that namaaz doesn't have to be read as you can still be grateful to Allah SWA without it. Also, think about your future. Keeping modest in public and things like your hair should only be shown to your husband.
I am a hijaabi myself and I have been tempted to ake it off. However, I get reminded and I have found inspiration. I also feel the need to eep it on especially at a time like this when Islam is a hated religion as though I should be a proud Muslim girl who represents her religion. As for you, talk to someone about it. Find a Mu'alimah. (Masjid teacher. I have one I keep in touch with and she is very gentle. If you want, I will ask if I can pass on her number to you.)
I also think you should do some research. Why you wear it, and to find inspiration. Remember, this is a test, no matter how hard it is, Allah SWA will guide you through it. The harder it is, the more you remind yourself that Allah SWA is testing you. It's modesty, as you mentioned, But when you start to step away, take off the hijaab and claim you can still stay modest without it, remember that it gets easier to stop other things. You may start to say that namaaz doesn't have to be read as you can still be grateful to Allah SWA without it. Also, think about your future. Keeping modest in public and things like your hair should only be shown to your husband.
Original post by chemting
the Google Sheikh is strong with this one
Islam Q info? Could you please link me to this site? Or did you mean IslamQA?
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Islam Q info? Could you please link me to this site? Or did you mean IslamQA?
Posted from TSR Mobile
My mistake, yes Islam QA
https://islamqa.info/en/13998
Original post by Saly_Elkady
Okay sweetie ,
Have you ever seen the Abaya that is a really big deal for everyone ?
1)Most of the abayas here doesn't follow the rules of Hijab
2) It looks like dresses at the moment
3) there are many colours for it
4) At some point some people made it a jumpsuit
Media loves exaggerate simple stuff . My friends are all 16 and 17 , they are not Hijabis . They don't wear a head scarf , they walk with an open Abaya and nothing happens . About the Islamic police or watever you guys call it , those are here to avoid random guys to hangout with random girls (eg. date and so on ) , avoid any non-islamic act ( eg. kissing or flirting ) .
I hope you got an idea about what is going on here .
Have you ever seen the Abaya that is a really big deal for everyone ?
1)Most of the abayas here doesn't follow the rules of Hijab
2) It looks like dresses at the moment
3) there are many colours for it
4) At some point some people made it a jumpsuit
Media loves exaggerate simple stuff . My friends are all 16 and 17 , they are not Hijabis . They don't wear a head scarf , they walk with an open Abaya and nothing happens . About the Islamic police or watever you guys call it , those are here to avoid random guys to hangout with random girls (eg. date and so on ) , avoid any non-islamic act ( eg. kissing or flirting ) .
I hope you got an idea about what is going on here .
1) don't call me sweety, darling
2) can you give maybe 1 mere source for any of these statements of yours?
3) so can women wear bikinis out in public in saudi arabia? I'm going to laugh my ass off if you actually say yes when you're saying "women aren't forced to wear hair coverings" at the same time, as if there's no dissonance
Damn, everyone needs to chill out O.O
Original post by AverageExcellence
fantastic argument, flawless.. i am now a devout believer in the giant cookie monster in the sky! may i be graced with magical baked treats when i die
How about you try to make a conclusive argument as to why God doesn't exist?
You're not omniscient like you might think you are; basing a conclusive 'disproof' of a theory that is meant to transcend reality solely on what you have seen around you isn't convincing at all.
Original post by IrrationalRoot
How about you try to make a conclusive argument as to why God doesn't exist?
You're not omniscient like you might think you are; basing a conclusive 'disproof' of a theory that is meant to transcend reality solely on what you have seen around you isn't convincing at all.
You're not omniscient like you might think you are; basing a conclusive 'disproof' of a theory that is meant to transcend reality solely on what you have seen around you isn't convincing at all.
lol search up Russell's Tea pot, you can't disprove a negative. Prove god exists, prove he isn't a talking piece of poo or a gigantic pleasure toy, the argument is ridiculous.
Theists are the one that make the ridiculous jumps:
1) We don't know 100% how the universe came into being
2) a magic man in the sky (who we can't explain the creation or origin of) must have made it
3) such an infinitely powerful being cares what random simplistic organisms do on this spec of dust
4) he appears only to random desert folk and gives them super ambiguous, very context specific books filled with abhorrent morality.
5) he demands obedience and praise 24/7 from them
6) he tells them what to do with their genitals and what to eat.
do me a favour if anyone makes the jump its you guys, come back to me when you can prove the giant cookie monster in the sky exists then we'll talk but don't imply im mr know it all when its you who's lording it over people with no evidence whatsoever and then implying YOUR beliefs are the correct ones.
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Original post by AverageExcellence
do me a favour if anyone makes the jump its you guys, come back to me when you can prove the giant cookie monster in the sky exists then we'll talk but don't imply im mr know it all when its you who's lording it over people with no evidence whatsoever and then implying YOUR beliefs are the correct ones.
do me a favour if anyone makes the jump its you guys, come back to me when you can prove the giant cookie monster in the sky exists then we'll talk but don't imply im mr know it all when its you who's lording it over people with no evidence whatsoever and then implying YOUR beliefs are the correct ones.
Never once said that I believe God exists. You like assuming things and then attacking people don't you?
I'm saying you can't act like you know whether he does exist.
Gosh you argue really immaturely though. I'm not continuing this.
Original post by IrrationalRoot
Never once said that I believe God exists. You like assuming things and then attacking people don't you?
I'm saying you can't act like you know whether he does exist.
Gosh you argue really immaturely though. I'm not continuing this.
I'm saying you can't act like you know whether he does exist.
Gosh you argue really immaturely though. I'm not continuing this.
What have i assumed? you are the one being immature saying i think omnipetent what an immature thing to say. You thinking you are on the moral high ground and talking down to people is the real immature thing here.
I have only responded to people messaging me, so get off your high horse.
Lmao dis is why I am sometimes ashamed of being a Muslim
all these people think that because they are Muslims, somehow this gives them the right to judge how good or bad of a Muslim someone else is, and decide whether they're going to Hell or not.
And all these people pulling up Quranic quotes with all these added brackets tryna say that if you don't look like a tent you're doing Islam wrong. Bitch those are your words, and changing the word of God to prove your point is a major sin so sit down.
They be judging non-hijabis on TSR then switch to their pornhub tab 10 seconds later, acting like dis is their court smh
all these people think that because they are Muslims, somehow this gives them the right to judge how good or bad of a Muslim someone else is, and decide whether they're going to Hell or not.
And all these people pulling up Quranic quotes with all these added brackets tryna say that if you don't look like a tent you're doing Islam wrong. Bitch those are your words, and changing the word of God to prove your point is a major sin so sit down.
They be judging non-hijabis on TSR then switch to their pornhub tab 10 seconds later, acting like dis is their court smh
Original post by z33
Lmao dis is why I am sometimes ashamed of being a Muslim
all these people think that because they are Muslims, somehow this gives them the right to judge how good or bad of a Muslim someone else is, and decide whether they're going to Hell or not. Bitch are you God? No you are not, sit the **** down.
And all these people pulling up Quranic quotes with all these added brackets tryna say that if you don't look like a tent you're doing Islam wrong. Bitch those are your words, and changing the word of God to prove your point is a major sin so sit down.
They be judging non-hijabis on TSR then switch to their pornhub tab 10 seconds later, acting like dis is their court smh
all these people think that because they are Muslims, somehow this gives them the right to judge how good or bad of a Muslim someone else is, and decide whether they're going to Hell or not. Bitch are you God? No you are not, sit the **** down.
And all these people pulling up Quranic quotes with all these added brackets tryna say that if you don't look like a tent you're doing Islam wrong. Bitch those are your words, and changing the word of God to prove your point is a major sin so sit down.
They be judging non-hijabis on TSR then switch to their pornhub tab 10 seconds later, acting like dis is their court smh
This is y I missed you man. You're amaze.
Original post by Freudian Slit
This is y I missed you man. You're amaze.
tnxtnx brah <3
Original post by z33
Lmao dis is why I am sometimes ashamed of being a Muslim
all these people think that because they are Muslims, somehow this gives them the right to judge how good or bad of a Muslim someone else is, and decide whether they're going to Hell or not. Bitch are you God? No you are not, sit the **** down.
And all these people pulling up Quranic quotes with all these added brackets tryna say that if you don't look like a tent you're doing Islam wrong. Bitch those are your words, and changing the word of God to prove your point is a major sin so sit down.
They be judging non-hijabis on TSR then switch to their pornhub tab 10 seconds later, acting like dis is their court smh
all these people think that because they are Muslims, somehow this gives them the right to judge how good or bad of a Muslim someone else is, and decide whether they're going to Hell or not. Bitch are you God? No you are not, sit the **** down.
And all these people pulling up Quranic quotes with all these added brackets tryna say that if you don't look like a tent you're doing Islam wrong. Bitch those are your words, and changing the word of God to prove your point is a major sin so sit down.
They be judging non-hijabis on TSR then switch to their pornhub tab 10 seconds later, acting like dis is their court smh
Gurllllllll
Original post by TheonlyMrsHolmes
Gurllllllll
it's true
i'm telling you they're all hypocrites I saw some "would you rather pick the unwrapped or wrapped up sweet"
bitch did you just compare humans to food? are they joking? we'd never be that perfect *__*
Original post by Anonymous
Hello!
First of all, I'd like to say this thread is very hard to make for me since I've always portrayed myself as a 'proud' Muslim. I have been feeling depressed for the past, say, 4 years of my life. I'm turning 18 in the summer, and I have never felt so ugly, so depressed, so not my self. Imagine realising that you're not going to be able to do what you want in life... that you're living just to wait for death. That is how I feel. I feel completely trapped.
My parents are conservative, very strict, very scary. My father moreso than my mother. My extended family are like that as well, you do one thing that they don't like and you're put under fire by the whole ****ing country. I have aunts and uncles here as well, and if I were to take it off all Hell would break loose.
I just can't try and find justifications for some of the things in Islam. Like this verse in the Quran:
"Men are (meant to be righteous and kind) guardians of women because God has favored some more than others and because they (i.e. men) spend out of their wealth. (In their turn) righteous women are (meant to be) devoted and to guard what God has (willed to be) guarded even though out of sight (of the husband). As for those (women) on whose part you fear ill-will and nasty conduct, admonish them (first), (next) separate them in beds (and last) beat them. But if they obey you, then seek nothing against them. Behold, God is most high and great." (4:34)
This verse is in the Quran, it is not a hadith so you can say "oh that's just someone talking ****", it is the unadulterated word of God Himself.
I just don't see a reason for covering my hair, I can be modest in my thoughts, I can be modest without a hijab. I love God and I hope he forgives me but I just don't understand why? If He made me the way I am and He loves me, why does He order men to rinse their hands from my touch?
"And if ye are unclean, purify yourselves. And if ye are sick or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have had contact with women, and ye find not water, then go to clean, high ground and rub your faces and your hands with some of it" (5:6) Am I created dirty?
I just don't see how this could be 'misinterpreted'. And it's not even just Islam itself, it is the Muslim community. The backwards thinking, the hypocrisy, the oppression hidden behind smiles and empty arguments to trick yourself into believing it's the right thing to do. I don't want to lie to myself, and to God and to my family and say I want to represent this and I believe in this and it makes me happy. It doesn't. I am depressed. I feel like ****. I feel like I am losing purpose. I feel like my dreams are too far to reach.
And I can't ignore it any more. It's been 4 years of constant **** and right now I am itching in my own skin. I am suffering so much and I know it might never end. Because I would be ridiculed and looked down upon and disowned by my own community/ family, nobody would want to marry me, I'm going to be pointed at my mothers who tell their children not to be like me. People are going to scowl in disgust when they hear my name. And I am a person who craves validation. If someone doesn't like me, I go out of my way to make them like me, so that would absolutely destroy me.
Funny how a cloth on your head can do that to ya huh? But I don't know how to live my life the way I want and not to hurt or be hurt by those I love and those I call "family". I just need help. I don't need someone telling me I will go to Hell. God is merciful and will forgive my sins. You are not God.
Any words of reassurance? Advice? Anything?
First of all, I'd like to say this thread is very hard to make for me since I've always portrayed myself as a 'proud' Muslim. I have been feeling depressed for the past, say, 4 years of my life. I'm turning 18 in the summer, and I have never felt so ugly, so depressed, so not my self. Imagine realising that you're not going to be able to do what you want in life... that you're living just to wait for death. That is how I feel. I feel completely trapped.
My parents are conservative, very strict, very scary. My father moreso than my mother. My extended family are like that as well, you do one thing that they don't like and you're put under fire by the whole ****ing country. I have aunts and uncles here as well, and if I were to take it off all Hell would break loose.
I just can't try and find justifications for some of the things in Islam. Like this verse in the Quran:
"Men are (meant to be righteous and kind) guardians of women because God has favored some more than others and because they (i.e. men) spend out of their wealth. (In their turn) righteous women are (meant to be) devoted and to guard what God has (willed to be) guarded even though out of sight (of the husband). As for those (women) on whose part you fear ill-will and nasty conduct, admonish them (first), (next) separate them in beds (and last) beat them. But if they obey you, then seek nothing against them. Behold, God is most high and great." (4:34)
This verse is in the Quran, it is not a hadith so you can say "oh that's just someone talking ****", it is the unadulterated word of God Himself.
I just don't see a reason for covering my hair, I can be modest in my thoughts, I can be modest without a hijab. I love God and I hope he forgives me but I just don't understand why? If He made me the way I am and He loves me, why does He order men to rinse their hands from my touch?
"And if ye are unclean, purify yourselves. And if ye are sick or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have had contact with women, and ye find not water, then go to clean, high ground and rub your faces and your hands with some of it" (5:6) Am I created dirty?
I just don't see how this could be 'misinterpreted'. And it's not even just Islam itself, it is the Muslim community. The backwards thinking, the hypocrisy, the oppression hidden behind smiles and empty arguments to trick yourself into believing it's the right thing to do. I don't want to lie to myself, and to God and to my family and say I want to represent this and I believe in this and it makes me happy. It doesn't. I am depressed. I feel like ****. I feel like I am losing purpose. I feel like my dreams are too far to reach.
And I can't ignore it any more. It's been 4 years of constant **** and right now I am itching in my own skin. I am suffering so much and I know it might never end. Because I would be ridiculed and looked down upon and disowned by my own community/ family, nobody would want to marry me, I'm going to be pointed at my mothers who tell their children not to be like me. People are going to scowl in disgust when they hear my name. And I am a person who craves validation. If someone doesn't like me, I go out of my way to make them like me, so that would absolutely destroy me.
Funny how a cloth on your head can do that to ya huh? But I don't know how to live my life the way I want and not to hurt or be hurt by those I love and those I call "family". I just need help. I don't need someone telling me I will go to Hell. God is merciful and will forgive my sins. You are not God.
Any words of reassurance? Advice? Anything?
You are only feeling depressed:
A) Because you feel worthless.
B) Jinn are attacking you.
The answer is to suspend your suspension of reality.
I recommend you watch these videos, they're about advice on removing the hijab.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MS81U0rXt0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11D6Xddz_j4
There're plenty of girls in this situation. I know there's a lot of pressure from family to be seen as the 'good Muslim girl' and taking off the hijab is seen as a step down from this pedestal. If Islam isn't answering all your questions right now, you should have a look at both sides of the argument and then make up your mind. It's a very hard process, regardless of whether you decide to stay within the fold of Islam or not.
Personally, I'm an ex-Muslim so I have already gone through this process. If you need support, I can direct you to local support networks. (I'm posting anonymously because cba dealing with hate right now and also because I've done some public outreach work and I don't want people to know my account on here).
Hope this was what you were looking for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MS81U0rXt0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11D6Xddz_j4
There're plenty of girls in this situation. I know there's a lot of pressure from family to be seen as the 'good Muslim girl' and taking off the hijab is seen as a step down from this pedestal. If Islam isn't answering all your questions right now, you should have a look at both sides of the argument and then make up your mind. It's a very hard process, regardless of whether you decide to stay within the fold of Islam or not.
Personally, I'm an ex-Muslim so I have already gone through this process. If you need support, I can direct you to local support networks. (I'm posting anonymously because cba dealing with hate right now and also because I've done some public outreach work and I don't want people to know my account on here).
Hope this was what you were looking for.
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