Did you know the Organ Donation Law has changed?

You know that most people who die are either old, or in accidents, meaning that their organs are unusable anyway. It would be a real waste of time for everyone to devote time to a decision that will never matter, and they will definitely never know the outcome of. Plus, most people are stupid, so if you get them to think about it, they'll probably freak out and say no. They are incapable of actually understanding the ramifications of their actions.

So you want to actively exclude people from the decision because 'most people are stupid'?

I would rather make people try to understand the ramifications and make their own decision than the state step in and hope they don't notice.

And it's a rational response to all the inequality I endured & witnessed.

What ramifications? They are DEAD. It has no effect on them what is done to their corpse. And honestly, it makes me a little uncomfortable to think about some doctor cutting me open and pulling out my organs, so I imagine that people with less self control would, as I said before, just freak out and opt out. If you want to go around and intensely educate everyone on exactly what will happen, fine, but that's not going to happen. As it is, most people won't understand the decision they are making, so they are not thinking about it properly.
And this isn't being kept quiet or anything, I found out by watching an advert on national TV.

The ramifications that you spoke of in post 66 that I quoted.

We don't need to individually educate everyone, just have the relevant information on a .gov website and make them decide. If they don't understand then they should try to, organ transplants aren't a difficult concept to understand, and any adult should understand the concept of a dead body (even if they think their spirit lives on afterwards).

Do you think someone could have a legitimate reason to not be a donor? You call it 'freaking out', but as long as they have time to consider their decision and still don't want to, why should they make their organs available?

At the very least, those who are choosing to opt out should be put at the back of the queue for any medical procedures they need. If they choose to be a selfish ****, they should be left til last.

No I don't agree with the new system. We shouldn't all automatically be on the organ donor list because not everyone wants to donate and they've done this secretly, loads of people won't know about it and when they die their organs will be donated without their consent and knowledge. I'm a Muslim and organ donation is not within my beliefs. The body should not be touched after death or have anything removed from it. It should be respected and laid to rest intact not cut open and butchered as if it was nothing. Even if I wasn't Muslim I would not donate, there are plenty of people who want to donate and can save lives if they want to. I want to keep my organs because they're mine. I will have to get my name off that register now. How do I do that? Can I do it through my gp or will I need to apply to get my name removed?

No I don't agree with the new system. We shouldn't all automatically be on the organ donor list because not everyone wants to donate and they've done this secretly, loads of people won't know about it and when they die their organs will be donated without their consent and knowledge. I'm a Muslim and organ donation is not within my beliefs. The body should not be touched after death or have anything removed from it. It should be respected and laid to rest intact not cut open and butchered as if it was nothing. Even if I wasn't Muslim I would not donate, there are plenty of people who want to donate and can save lives if they want to. I want to keep my organs because they're mine. I will have to get my name off that register now. How do I do that? Can I do it through my gp or will I need to apply to get my name removed?

... they've done this secretly, loads of people won't know about it and when they die their organs will be donated without their consent and knowledge.

Does it not depend on why they're opting out? And since there's no "...why?" section on the opt out questionnaire, that's a nope.

And, "any"? So, someone opting out of being an organ donor shouldn't get a broken finger looked at...?

No I don't agree with the new system. We shouldn't all automatically be on the organ donor list because not everyone wants to donate and they've done this secretly, loads of people won't know about it and when they die their organs will be donated without their consent and knowledge. I'm a Muslim and organ donation is not within my beliefs. The body should not be touched after death or have anything removed from it. It should be respected and laid to rest intact not cut open and butchered as if it was nothing. Even if I wasn't Muslim I would not donate, there are plenty of people who want to donate and can save lives if they want to. I want to keep my organs because they're mine. I will have to get my name off that register now. How do I do that? Can I do it through my gp or will I need to apply to get my name removed?

A corpse is an inanimate object, part of which may save someone's life. What does the opinion of the person who used to inhabit it matter?

I really don't like the idea that I have no say in who can get my organs once I'm gone.
Doctors usually prioritize younger patients over older ones and it gives them the power over life and death, of which I'm not comfortable with. I think it should be "first come first served".
I also don't want men to receive my organs, because many of them have already unfairly benefited of my existence (unpaid work, stolen ideas), and I don't want them to take advantage of my death as well. Yeah, I'm sexist like that.

So by this logic if a woman died a random guy should be able to rape her corpse. After all, what does the opinion of whoever used to inhabit said corpse matter?

I can't think of a reason that would be more valid than another. That said, I wouldn't penalise them for not signing up - they'd still be eligible for organ donations themselves - though obviously they'd be morally bankrupt if they got one.

Yeah, I would donate but I've been told I'm not allowed.

I know some religions forbid blood or organ donation, for example.
And some people would be restricted from donating based on medical grounds, so opt out by default.

And, "any"? So, someone opting out of being an organ donor shouldn't get a broken finger looked at...?

They choose to follow that religion! They are choosing to opt out! that doesn't make it more valid.
Obviously if there are medical reasons that your organs can't be used, that isn't your choice, so you shouldn't be punished for that.

But there's no system in place that asks why you've opted out, so either we treat everyone like they've chosen to opt out because they don't like it, or we treat everyone like they've chosen to opt out because they can't.

As someone who claims to be coming at it from a compassionate point of view, which do you go with?