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    Notice how women switch in and out of a feminist agenda a la carte. The OP no doubt believes in and enjoys all manner of "women's rights" but really she is happiest selling her company for cash. In her view it is the role of a man to do that and indeed a man who can not can't "date". Well can't date her and like minded women anyway. That is the bottom line. IMHO it is cheaper, better value and more satisfying hiring an escort.
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    (Original post by Top Queen)
    My job is to enjoy life LOL, at least that what my boyfriend tells me
    If we are going along with this gender role thing your job is to open your legs on demand , cook , clean and be quiet when a man is talking.
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    Personally I think its nice if he offers to pay on the first date (as long as its not something really expensive). After that I like to take turns in paying for things, because then it feels like you are treating each other every time rather than splitting.
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    (Original post by alis-volatpropriis)
    Go away, you're continually quoting a person that is offline. You're just searching for an argument.
    Exactly!
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    Oh I'm sorry I didn't realise that being offline right a wrong.
    You are bored. Bye.
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    (Original post by Top Queen)
    Exactly!
    You are bored. Bye.
    Of course, since you cannot formulate arguments nor reason you have decided not to respond.

    Are you going online from a kitchen? Why aren't you focusing on making sandwiches or cleaning the house?
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    In my past experiences, the guy has always paid for the first date, usually because he initiated it. However, there was one occasion where the guy never paid for me on the few dates we had. He even expected me to pay half when he had a 2 for 1 cinema tickets which didn't make sense to me...but he wasn't really the gentleman type for a lot of aspects easily...he even just opened doors for himself, usually not bothering to hold them open for me at least but anyway....
    I think it's nice when guys pay but I always offer anyway, just in case. However, splitting is already awkward enough with friends, never mind with a partner. It's really annoying getting the calculator out and trying to divide as equally as possible so I wouldn't say splitting is the best idea. Or maybe, if wherever you go on the date was your idea, you should be the one to pay?


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    (Original post by Dalek1099)
    I do think splitting is fair unless one person earns a lot more than the other but maybe men should have to pay for women more because they put a lot of work into looking good and have to pay for makeup, style their hair, shave their body etc.As a male I would expect a female to wear makeup well, have long straight hair and a hairless body.
    Exactly!!!!!!!! This is it. Men put no effort into a date, when me and my boyfriend go out it takes him an hour tops to get ready, normally 30 mins, for me it takes me hours. If we only go out somewhere small then I don't bother, but majority of times we go to nice places etc. so him paying is like him putting in the effort.
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    (Original post by Jaegon Targaryen)
    If we are going along with this gender role thing your job is to open your legs on demand , cook , clean and be quiet when a man is talking.
    She indeed has been quite too loud. Would have been considered a witch back in the days and be burnt alive.
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    (Original post by Kandybars)
    In my past experiences, the guy has always paid for the first date, usually because he initiated it. However, there was one occasion where the guy never paid for me on the few dates we had. He even expected me to pay half when he had a 2 for 1 cinema tickets which didn't make sense to me...but he wasn't really the gentleman type for a lot of aspects easily...he even just opened doors for himself, usually not bothering to hold them open for me at least but anyway....
    I think it's nice when guys pay but I always offer anyway, just in case. However, splitting is already awkward enough with friends, never mind with a partner. It's really annoying getting the calculator out and trying to divide as equally as possible so I wouldn't say splitting is the best idea. Or maybe, if wherever you go on the date was your idea, you should be the one to pay?


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    Me and my boyfriend never split, I think it's sad. Why would we wanna be trying to calculate exactly how much each should pay, it's bad enough doing it with friends. Most times my boyfriend pays, sometimes I pay. I don't mind paying for my boyfriend now, because he's been paying for me for so long, I thinks it's a gentleman thing to do,
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    (Original post by Top Queen)
    Exactly!!!!!!!! This is it. Men put no effort into a date, when me and my boyfriend go out it takes him an hour tops to get ready, normally 30 mins, for me it takes me hours. If we only go out somewhere small then I don't bother, but majority of times we go to nice places etc. so him paying is like him putting in the effort.
    This is not called fairness. If you are perfectly fine with a man's appearance after an hour of preparation, then it means it's good enough for you. And nobody asks you to prepare for hours, nor should they compensate you for your inefficiency and incompetence to look good without levelled makeup.
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    In my experience of dating at university, girls seem to want to split or actually pay for mine as well (This actually happened once!! Couldn't believe my luck ).

    When I was still in sixth form I used to pay for my girlfriend every single time we went shopping/went out somewhere and she expected this in such a grotesque and un-lady like fashion. It's like seriously, have some dignity? It was absolutely pathetic.

    I know that I'd feel very uncomfortable if someone always paid for me every time we went and did something.


    In response to a lot of the discussion above, if some women so desperately seek equality, and rightly so, paying for your own stuff might be a start? I'm not saying that all women who let guys pay for them are doing this because they feel entitled, but maybe just have a think about it. Most of the time, the guy's only paying because cultural norms dictate so, and not because he actually WANTS to (however, sometimes guys genuinely do want to pay).
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    (Original post by clh_hilary)
    This is not called fairness. If you are perfectly fine with a man's appearance after an hour of preparation, then it means it's good enough for you. And nobody asks you to prepare for hours, nor should they compensate you for your inefficiency and incompetence to look good without levelled makeup.
    Who said it's because of makeup? If you don't know something, please don't jump to conclusions. If my boyfriend says it's fair, it's fair. Not my fault if you don't have the money to pay to take a girl out. Sorry.
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    (Original post by Top Queen)
    Exactly!!!!!!!! This is it. Men put no effort into a date, when me and my boyfriend go out it takes him an hour tops to get ready, normally 30 mins, for me it takes me hours. If we only go out somewhere small then I don't bother, but majority of times we go to nice places etc. so him paying is like him putting in the effort.
    U wot.

    Men are expected to come with the jokes of a stand up comedian , wit of don draper , bank account of Bill Gates and body of a gym freak and your telling me men put no effort in ?

    All you have to do is put your make up on , laugh at his jokes and keep his balls empty and you will please most men.
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    (Original post by Top Queen)
    Personally, I think boys should pay for most things but not everything, and I do think girls should pay for things too at times. But I would never pay for anything for someone who I wasn't in a relationship with for a long time.

    In the first year of my relationship I never spent a penny when we went out (me and my boyfriend) but after a year I decided to start paying for things too, I'd say it's about 35:65 - me being the 35 in the ratio. But he will always have to pay more and tbh he wouldn't have it any other way. He says it's the mans job to do so.

    What do you think?
    You've been going out with a guy for more than a year, never had sex and he paid for everything?

    I think girls like you need to get rid of this "princess" mentality where you should be constantly spoiled. Times have changed, don't you feel it would be beneficial to yourself and make you feel good to actually pay your own way, stand on your own 2 feet, etc?

    Love shouldn't be about money. My gf & I split rent & bills based on our salaries. So that we both have enough spending money for the month. However, she'll sometimes treat me to a meal/drinks and I'll sometimes treat her.

    Why should I pay for 2 people for everything?
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    (Original post by Jaegon Targaryen)
    U wot.

    Men are expected to come with the jokes of a stand up comedian , wit of don draper , bank account of Bill Gates and body of a gym freak and your telling me men put no effort in ?

    All you have to do is put your make up on , laugh at his jokes and keep his balls empty and you will please most men.
    Loool, my boyfriend is naturally funny and even if he has nothing to say, I would always spark conversation anyway, we never stop talking, either he is or I am, there is no effort required in that, it's more of a passive process.

    Yes I do expect him to have a well-built body, because he expects me to have a nice body too, so that one goes too ways,

    I barely wear makeup so it isn't even that process that takes a long time, there is a lot I do. I also don't expect him to have the bank of bill gates, but I wouldn't date someone if I had more money than them, which a lot of times has happened - especially because most of those boys aren't even interesting or anything I'd even want to be with let alone the paying issue.
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    (Original post by Top Queen)
    I think it's cute, I remember watching an interview with JayZ and he spoke about the fact that he hates letting Beyonce pay for things and although people think it's such an outdated thing to do, it's a mans job. I simply agree, I think it's the mans job, sorry to sound so old fashioned, but then again I don't agree with a lot of the things that are happening in today's society.

    YOU'RE NOT BEYONCE! Fair enough I'd pay for everything for Bey, but thank God I'm not dating anyone like you. Your views are outdated and I think you need a reality check. If you still expect the man to pay for everything in this day and age, I expect you to get in the kitchen and make him a sandwich and satisfy him whenever he needs it. And you'd also have to give him any and all money/property you own because that's a woman's duty!
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    (Original post by Steezy)
    You've been going out with a guy for more than a year, never had sex and he paid for everything?

    I think girls like you need to get rid of this "princess" mentality where you should be constantly spoiled. Times have changed, don't you feel it would be beneficial to yourself and make you feel good to actually pay your own way, stand on your own 2 feet, etc?

    Love shouldn't be about money. My gf & I split rent & bills based on our salaries. So that we both have enough spending money for the month. However, she'll sometimes treat me to a meal/drinks and I'll sometimes treat her.

    Why should I pay for 2 people for everything?
    Yes, for two years. Well he actually tells me I'm his princess and he doesn't want me to worry about anything, he just wants me to enjoy it so I've just been doing that for two years. Love isn't about money, I fell in love with him before we even went on a date, we just used to hang out in groups.

    You should because it's a gentleman thing to do. I wouldn't expect my boyfriend to pay for the rent etc, of course we should take turns etc, but if he can't pay for our days out or at least most of them..
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    (Original post by Top Queen)
    Personally, I think boys should pay for most things but not everything, and I do think girls should pay for things too at times. But I would never pay for anything for someone who I wasn't in a relationship with for a long time.

    In the first year of my relationship I never spent a penny when we went out (me and my boyfriend) but after a year I decided to start paying for things too, I'd say it's about 35:65 - me being the 35 in the ratio. But he will always have to pay more and tbh he wouldn't have it any other way. He says it's the mans job to do so.

    What do you think?
    Your sex must have been amazing for your boyfriend too put up with paying for everything in the 1st year.
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    (Original post by Top Queen)
    Who said it's because of makeup? If you don't know something, please don't jump to conclusions. If my boyfriend says it's fair, it's fair. Not my fault if you don't have the money to pay to take a girl out. Sorry.
    Correction: If your boyfriend says it's fair, it's fair to him. Not to everybody.

    I'm sorry but I don't treat my partner like a prostitute. I pay if I want to, but I prefer not the shallow and dependent type.
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    Erm...no...that's completely ridiculous. You should never spend a penny on anyone unless they're family, or a very close friend. I would never spend a penny on a loose woman, if she wants something she can by it with her own goddamned money. Why on earth should men have to spend money on women? See I'm a pimp, if she don't bring that dough home, better explain it to that landlord, that's for real. Wouldn't even piss on here even if she was on fire.
 
 
 
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