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Reply 20
Original post by BrownFace
Aleykum salam,
yeah i went to the website, it was a bit unislamic. Not really what i wanted 😁
Well my feelings emerged like every teenager around early mid school. I have never been abused by my familly and when it comes to bullying i guess like every kid in mid college not really too much. I don't watch tv im more on youtube and no gay youtubers. I wear normal casual stuff, im masculin and i am a very sportive person. I think i am like every men i know and im not sure what sassy means(im french sorry). I have mix gender friends and no one knows about me.
I ve been with girls and boys( in secret of course) but my religion became i big part of my life so i don't date anymore. I m more focused about my studies and inchallah career.
I started to watch a lot of porn both gay and hetero when i stoped dating( by the way, when i say date with guys, its not sexual relation i mean maybe kissing and huging but not more), after all the relationship i had, i can say im that kind of person that is 100% commited to the other and i project easily on the futur with kids and stuffs. Anyway thats it.
I m just going with my life, now its either staying single and fasting until the end or marry a woman and support it. Pretty sad i know, but i believe that maybe IF i go to jannah i will be able to be with a man even if it is haram on earth, like the wine and the silk clothes and gold 😁

Well done bro for trying to maintain within boundaries of Islam! You will be rewarded for sure just remember not to be tempted by succumbs if Satan around who try to lure you into thinking there’s nothing wrong
Reply 21
Original post by Sara01
To wokskin - Please don’t come up with false information and your own interpretation of the Quran. Quran in fact is the only book left on earth which is direct words of God that hasn’t been changed in centuries!(u like bible or Torah) If your a Muslim gay then accept your sin rather than trying to amend the words of God because you may be forgiven for your sin but not for manipulating gods words..If you are not a Muslim then please keep your mouth shut as nobody asked for your opinion..


That’s incorrect. You are naive to think that. I’d go as far as to say Allah will be having words with you in your passing about how you followed false beliefs because everyone else did. You are not a true muslim.
Original post by Zamestaneh
Assalaamu 'aleykum

Don't use this website this Atheist user suggested - they are a liberal group which try to promote homosexuality at Pride marches etc which is not conducive to you trying to be a practicing Muslim whilst avoiding acting on your feelings.

I am not a psychologist but do you know where your feelings stem or originate from? Like for example (and I am not suggesting this is the case for you) those who were sexually abused when younger have a much higher chance of developing homosexual feelings as they grow older. Were you bullied when you were younger by boys or brothers perhaps or anything like that, and why? Also what are your habits now - what do you watch on television, do you watch gay Youtubers, what kind of clothes do you wear, how do you behave and talk (e.g. have you developed an effeminate voice, are you a sassy person etc), what is your social circle like, do you feel you relate to the typical concept of 'masculinity'? I just want to understand more about your life now and when you were younger because perhaps it might help us/me to understand how best to help you or what to suggest.

Please provide as much detail about yourself as possible.


Thanks for the disclaimer that you aren’t a qualified clinical psychologist...
Childhood has nothing to do with homosexuality, pick up a book, you’re on TSR because you’re a student.
Original post by n3ur05c13nc3
Thanks for the disclaimer that you aren’t a qualified clinical psychologist...
Childhood has nothing to do with homosexuality, pick up a book, you’re on TSR because you’re a student.

Studies state otherwise. Other factors involved can be pre-natal conditions or genetic but the LGBT community/media/ignorant general masses are extremely vested in promoting the unsubstantiaed 'gay gene' theory without accepting that there are many variables involved in a person's sexuality; the reality is that it is most likely is a combination of multiple things rather than just one or the other.
Original post by Zamestaneh
Studies state otherwise. Other factors involved can be pre-natal conditions or genetic but the LGBT community/media/ignorant general masses are extremely vested in promoting the unsubstantiaed 'gay gene' theory without accepting that there are many variables involved in a person's sexuality; the reality is that it is most likely is a combination of multiple things rather than just one or the other.

Can you provide these studies?
Reply 25
I hope the muslims here realise that this is a major student community, and hence any homophobic comments just enforce people’s opinions of negativity surrounding islam. If you want to continue to live in a country that appreciates you, then you need to understand the people.
I wanted to know from muslims in my situation, how they handled this. I should ve said that in the begining but the non muslim who are attacking my religion, i don't need your opinion because you don't believe in god so your analysis on the subject is already corrupted by the fact that god doesnt exist blabla. Saying "dont you think god wouldve let you do this "or "what kind of god create a person like this and then punish him/her" is totally imature and non productive cause God created us and knows whats best for us, our intelligence or analysis cant compare to his. So stop wasting your time replying. I am completely convinced by Islam i dont need you to tell me that i should change religion or live as a gay person, and ignoring the fact that the day of judgment wont come anyway.
thanks for the support of some 😁
Reply 27
Original post by BrownFace
I wanted to know from muslims in my situation, how they handled this. I should ve said that in the begining but the non muslim who are attacking my religion, i don't need your opinion because you don't believe in god so your analysis on the subject is already corrupted by the fact that god doesnt exist blabla. Saying "dont you think god wouldve let you do this "or "what kind of god create a person like this and then punish him/her" is totally imature and non productive cause God created us and knows whats best for us, our intelligence or analysis cant compare to his. So stop wasting your time replying. I am completely convinced by Islam i dont need you to tell me that i should change religion or live as a gay person, and ignoring the fact that the day of judgment wont come anyway.
thanks for the support of some 😁


Islam doesn’t prohibit living as a gay person? Are you stupid? God put you on this earth, he has intelligence far beyond what we can comprehend. He wants you to live this life.

Think of it this way, if you’re gay, commit crime (stealing, not murder) but then discover the cure for cancer and save millions, then God will see you in that light as a saviour. You will be well received in heaven.
God judges for what you do, not whom you love. <3
Original post by YaliaV
You’ll only make yourself miserable. There’s nothing wrong with being gay.


Thats your opinion, you criticize muslims cause " we have closed mind" but you dont accept my views on the matter. Hypocrit right . There are other beliefs that you have to take into account, Dont speak with only your belief and respect the belief of others.
Peace
Original post by Xanimede
As long as you share the mainstream-orthodox belief that homosexual intercourse is a sin, then your mind will always be in torment.

You are hardwired to have these urges, same way straight men have them towards women. You will never control them, they will never cease to exist.

Every time you see an attractive man on the street, every time you're in the mosque praying and a handsome brother is next to you, there will be guilt and confusion.

Every time you see a gay couple enjoying their lives, you will feel envy and hate.

You marry a woman, you think it's going to help, but it's only made things a thousand times worse.

You decide to have children, surely they will comfort you in your miserable life, but no, you're only digging yourself in deeper down the rabbit hole.

This is your reality, the one you set out for yourself, by choosing to believe this is what Allah wants you to do.

Ask yourself, would Allah want this?

Allah is testing him mate. everyone will be tested.
Allah would not test someone without them possibly being able to succeed through their test. meaning that the person is bale to beat this test.
Reply 30
Original post by BrownFace
Thats your opinion, you criticize muslims cause " we have closed mind" but you dont accept my views on the matter. Hypocrit right . There are other beliefs that you have to take into account, Dont speak with only your belief and respect the belief of others.
Peace


Please research the inspirational Maajid Nawaz. He is an amazing Muslim and one that God will be very happy with his life, I’m sure of it!
Original post by Professional G
Why would there be haram things in heaven? It’s a bit concerning you think you would be able to be gay in heaven?

you would not be gay in paradise. the gay feelings would vanish.
just like anger, envy, jealousy, greed, all those negative feelings would not be existing on Paradise
Reply 32
Original post by certain some1
you would not be gay in paradise. the gay feelings would vanish.
just like anger, envy, jealousy, greed, all those negative feelings would not be existing on Paradise


That is incorrect. No one knows what Paradise holds for us. Stop spreading false information. There is no way of knowing what Paradise holds until you visit, of which point you cannot return to tell us what it is like.

People do good things with the intention that a good life will lead to a good paradise, but in reality, we do not know.
Original post by Woksin
Exactly. I think most muslims need to develop their own conscious which Allah gave them. The Qur’an was made by scholars, an interpretation. Don’t take the Qur’an word ford word, because governments and past people would’ve changed it to suit their needs.

i wonder where you got that from. Quran was not changed by anyone.
Original post by Woksin
That is incorrect. No one knows what Paradise holds for us. Stop spreading false information. There is no way of knowing what Paradise holds until you visit, of which point you cannot return to tell us what it is like.

People do good things with the intention that a good life will lead to a good paradise, but in reality, we do not know.

i do know what paradise will be like lol. just do research and find what you believe in - sincerely. i believe in Islam. there are dexriptions, like for example in the Quran and hadiths, what paradise would be like
Original post by Woksin
Islam doesn’t prohibit living as a gay person? Are you stupid? God put you on this earth, he has intelligence far beyond what we can comprehend. He wants you to live this life.

Think of it this way, if you’re gay, commit crime (stealing, not murder) but then discover the cure for cancer and save millions, then God will see you in that light as a saviour. You will be well received in heaven.
God judges for what you do, not whom you love. <3


I agree, god judges for what i do. Being gay is not an act its a feeling so its not haram but acting (sexual intercourse with a man) is totally prohibited.
How can you say that god wants me to live and be sexual with guys? you talked to him maybe ?
And your example is completly out of subject, you dont even know if he will forgive me and i dunno if i ll save anyone.
Feeling some feelings is out of my control but acting about it is totally under my control so we don't agree at the end. Anyway you are not muslim and gay i suppose so you cant understant my choices.
=)
Reply 36
Original post by certain some1
i wonder where you got that from. Quran was not changed by anyone.


What a naive thing to say. Throughout all the years, governments have changed and rulers have made things fit around themselves.

On judgment, I think God will say to you, ‘why did you follow something so easily? This could of been the work of the devil disguised as mine, yet you still followed it. I’m a part of everyone in their conscious thoughts, do what is obviously right, help those in need and prosper to help all living things. I gave you this extended thoughts separate from animals for a reason, to develop your own beliefs.’
Reply 37
Original post by BrownFace
I agree, god judges for what i do. Being gay is not an act its a feeling so its not haram but acting (sexual intercourse with a man) is totally prohibited.
How can you say that god wants me to live and be sexual with guys? you talked to him maybe ?
And your example is completly out of subject, you dont even know if he will forgive me and i dunno if i ll save anyone.
Feeling some feelings is out of my control but acting about it is totally under my control so we don't agree at the end. Anyway you are not muslim and gay i suppose so you cant understant my choices.
=)


You say ‘you’ve talked to him maybe?’ as if other people have spoken to him? It is naive. God will judge you for being blind when he gave you conscious thought.
Original post by BlueIndigoViolet
lol the homophobia from these so called Muslims is quite frankly shocking - religion does not excuse you from respect


Why please tell me why cant you respect my belief when i respect yours. I am muslim and gay but i decided to not be sexual with men to respect my religion. If you dont believe in god and dont respect my opinion then get away from here man, i am asking advises from MUSLIM AND GAY people not some random person coming here to spit their hatred towards a religion (with fake info and stereotype of course)
Original post by Woksin
What a naive thing to say. Throughout all the years, governments have changed and rulers have made things fit around themselves.

On judgment, I think God will say to you, ‘why did you follow something so easily? This could of been the work of the devil disguised as mine, yet you still followed it. I’m a part of everyone in their conscious thoughts, do what is obviously right, help those in need and prosper to help all living things. I gave you this extended thoughts separate from animals for a reason, to develop your own beliefs.’

again, i wonder where you got that from.

no government changed a letter of the Quran. or any scholar.

tbh i think you mean the interpretation was changed. (what i mean the meanings of the verses and where it came from, etc etc to their benefit)
but in the Quran, no letter was changed at all.
(edited 5 years ago)

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