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Uni of Bolton new med school

University of Bolton is planning on opening a new med school.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/23401095.amp/

Thoughts?
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Reply 2
Still no plans for retention of qualified doctors though.
Original post by Dnsnnssn
University of Bolton is planning on opening a new med school.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/23401095.amp/

Thoughts?


It's very good news for the local community. :smile:
(edited 10 months ago)
Reply 4
Original post by Democracy
Still no plans for retention of qualified doctors though.


What does that mean? Keeping them in the local area?
Reply 5
Original post by Dnsnnssn
What does that mean? Keeping them in the local area?


The government seem to be opening a new medical school every year but aren't giving much thought as to why huge numbers of doctors are retiring/locuming/emigrating/no longer putting up with this shite in shortage specialties.

Adding more and more medical students is not actually fixing the problem at hand.
Reply 6
Original post by Democracy
The government seem to be opening a new medical school every year but aren't giving much thought as to why huge numbers of doctors are retiring/locuming/emigrating/no longer putting up with this shite in shortage specialties.

Adding more and more medical students is not actually fixing the problem at hand.

I agree with you completely, but surely it is better than nothing?

More med students=more doctors=less strain on existing doctors, even if a high proportion of them emigrate/whatever. I'm also pretty sure reports into doctor shortages do recommend more medical schools and places, among other things, like obviously increasing pay. So overall a net positive, irrespective of other issues?

I'm not a doctor/medical student though. :biggrin:
Original post by fec1864
I agree with you completely, but surely it is better than nothing?

More med students=more doctors=less strain on existing doctors, even if a high proportion of them emigrate/whatever. I'm also pretty sure reports into doctor shortages do recommend more medical schools and places, among other things, like obviously increasing pay. So overall a net positive, irrespective of other issues?

I'm not a doctor/medical student though. :biggrin:

It doesn't mean more doctors. This is the problem. The government has increased the number of medical school places, but it hasn't increased the number of Foundation jobs or specialty training places to match, so all this means is that there will be more graduates feeling anxious about getting a job/training number while the shortages remain. It's as if there is an aquarium with a thousand holes in it, so all the fish keep dying, but instead of fixing the aquarium the owner has decided that the best thing is to put some more water into the tank.
Reply 8
Original post by fec1864
I agree with you completely, but surely it is better than nothing?

More med students=more doctors=less strain on existing doctors, even if a high proportion of them emigrate/whatever. I'm also pretty sure reports into doctor shortages do recommend more medical schools and places, among other things, like obviously increasing pay. So overall a net positive, irrespective of other issues?

I'm not a doctor/medical student though. :biggrin:


You've got a hole in your bucket. It's not able to retain water and your things are getting wet. Instead of fixing the hole you just increase the amount of water you pour into it.

Does that sound like a sensible strategy?

Edit: the same point has been made above.
(edited 10 months ago)
Reply 9
Original post by TheMedicOwl
It doesn't mean more doctors. This is the problem. The government has increased the number of medical school places, but it hasn't increased the number of Foundation jobs or specialty training places to match, so all this means is that there will be more graduates feeling anxious about getting a job/training number while the shortages remain. It's as if there is an aquarium with a thousand holes in it, so all the fish keep dying, but instead of fixing the aquarium the owner has decided that the best thing is to put some more water into the tank.


Ah, thank you for clarifying!

That seems so stupid on behalf of the government. So essentially yes, it is pointless then. Why would you increase places in medical schools but not places for actual training afterwards in the NHS? Going through all the hard work of getting into med school to then have increased competition when trying to get a job.

Obviously, I know certain specialties are more competitive than others, like the surgical ones, and you have others like GP and psychiatry which are less popular/may have more vacancies.

The incompetencies of our elected officials seem to plummet to new lows every day. The solutions to rectify all these issues we are facing are RIGHT THERE, obvious and in their faces, yet they refuse to accept reality.
Reply 10
Original post by fec1864
Ah, thank you for clarifying!

That seems so stupid on behalf of the government. So essentially yes, it is pointless then. Why would you increase places in medical schools but not places for actual training afterwards in the NHS? Going through all the hard work of getting into med school to then have increased competition when trying to get a job.

Obviously, I know certain specialties are more competitive than others, like the surgical ones, and you have others like GP and psychiatry which are less popular/may have more vacancies.

The incompetencies of our elected officials seem to plummet to new lows every day. The solutions to rectify all these issues we are facing are RIGHT THERE, obvious and in their faces, yet they refuse to accept reality.


If the answer to improving the lives of doctors, nhs staff, and all people in the UK using the NHS seems obvious, you almost have to start questioning the intent of the politicians... I fully believe they are ALL well aware of the crumbling of a free-at-the-point-of-access system, and it is all going according to plan for them

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