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Girls, would you EVER date a foreign man?

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I don't think I would date someone who didn't speak fluent English... but other than that, I don't mind :smile:
Reply 141
Original post by N_Thuduwage
I know...:rolleyes:


Lol - so how is how you dress and whether you speak English properly relevant to it?
Original post by >Anna<

Speak for yourself.


*looks at profile pics*

Actually, now that I've seen your hideous face...I speak of you :smile:
Original post by Imperatore
*looks at profile pics*

Actually, now that I've seen your hideous face...I speak of you :smile:


She's stunning, so it must definitely be yourself :yep:
Original post by effofex
Lol - so how is how you dress and whether you speak English properly relevant to it?


Why are you picking on me? :bawling:

I just realised I read your post wrong. Now leave me be :frown:
Original post by SpiritedAway
She's stunning, so it must definitely be yourself :yep:


You can't get enough of me can you :rofl:

She is, by no means, 'stunning'. I'm sorry if this is offensive or personal whatever bla bla, but she's barely average.
You're a girl, your judgement of the appearance of other girls is not credible. I'll leave judging guys to you and take your word for it, but do not tell me what is and isn't stunning. I am better equipped to judge a girl than you are, seeing as that's what guys do.

This isn't even offensive actually, I'm being (brutally) honest to her so she can save herself the embarrassment by removing unflattering photos. But then, this is TSR, where even the ugliest girls are worshipped by the desperado guys here.
How is 'geordie' a nice accent. It is basically annihilating the English language.
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Not really, because it's a dialect. Most places tend to have one. I'd love to hear how you talk
Reply 147
Original post by TexasHold'emMan
yes, freckles, but seriously just look at the following:


Hey, I'm Chinese & have freckles.. What does that make me? :tongue:
Reply 148
22 people are pissed foreigners took their girl/boyfriend
I have before and I would again.
If the guy is nice I don't think it would matter if he's foreign.
Reply 150
Original post by Imperatore
lol I think the question is, would foreign men date british women?

Ugly, when compared to the exoticas of europa!


Despite what some newspapers would have you believe, some of us have morals, class and dignity, and are not orange-faced, larger drinking, overweight sluts, and are actually quite decent looking.

Some British girls are beautiful.
Original post by .Ali.
Despite what some newspapers would have you believe, some of us have morals, class and dignity, and are not orange-faced, larger drinking, overweight sluts, and are actually quite decent looking.

Some British girls are beautiful.


This is true, but it's a rarity.
Reply 152
Original post by Imperatore
This is true, but it's a rarity.


Really? The majority of girls I know are like I described (the nice description, not the chavs! :tongue:).
Reply 153
Original post by BellaBoo
Yes i find it interesting too :smile:. I'll try and answer your questions as best as i can :smile:

In terms of the British women appearing desperate, i think it may have something to do with the types of British women who tend to date "Freshies." I have noticed (and i don't mean to sound bitchy/judgemental) that a lot of the British women who go for them, tend to be considered unattractive, which is perhaps why this reputation of desperation comes from-as a lot of people tend to say that the only British women who go for Asian or African born men are those who cannot get a British man. I agree that there is also the element of the man in question appearing desperate for a visa-but as i said before this only serves to make the woman look even more desperate as some would take the piss out of her for either ignoring or not realising that he could only be dating her for a visa (when the woman in case is unattractive, this only confounds people's suspicions that she is being used.) People may also take the mick because Asian and African born men tend to be seen as lower in the social scale than British born people (most likely due to them doing low paid work and also negative stereotypes about their countries of origin being poor etc.)

As far as sleazy and culturally backwards things go-it's mainly stuff like chatting up much younger girls etc. It's not rare (at least in Birmingham) to see Asian born men especially (and age wise i'm talking guys who look like they're in their 30s) to chat up girls who are 14/15. For example, i remember when i was about 14 there was an Asian guy (Pakistani i think rather than Indian) who run the chip shop who used to try and get me and my friend's numbers in exchange for free food/drink. And there was another guy (who i think must have been in at least his 40s) who used to buy my friend alcohol if she flirted with him. Now i'm not say that this type of behaviour doesn't happen amongst British men, because it does (and i'm not saying that in some cases young girls don't encourage it in exchange for money/alcohol/fags etc), but this kind of behaviour does seem to be more common amongst guys born in Asia. It's like they have no concept of age or anything-which is seen as unacceptable in this country.

You're right, Birmingham is a very multi ethic city, but (unlike London) it doesn't have as many economic opportunities for immigrants so whereas it seems in London a lot of guys from India etc work in finance-in Birmingham most of them tend to work in low paid work (e.g. factory work etc) and also tend (from what i've noticed anyway) to work in places owned by Indian people, and with a workforce mainly of fellow Indian born people, so "non Freshies" don't really get a chance to mix with "Freshies" in the same way that maybe you guys in London do. (Obviously there are Indian Doctors etc, but your average Brummie isn't a Doctor lol, so thus don't get to mix with them in a non professional setting.) British born people in Birmingham tend to mix quite well (although there is some segregation between those of different races) but non British born people (and i don't only mean Asians or Africans, but also Eastern Europeans for example) do tend to socialise mainly amongst their own communities so there isn't really the amount of mixing that you would expect in such a multi cultural city. Because of the little interaction between British people (especially White British people) and Indian born people (for example), there does tend to be some ignorance about accents/clothing etc-which is maybe why "Freshies" get such a bad rep.

I wouldn't say that it's as culturally insensitive today for a non White guy to marry/date a White female as it was in the past (for example as it was when my nan married my grandad and her family disowned here lol)-although obviously there is still some ignorance regarding it (i've got a friend whose Dad would disown her if she married a "coloured" man.) I'd say (possibly due to events like 9/11, 7/7) the main "taboo" would be males of a Muslim background (particularly Pakistani) dating a White woman, as although it happens-the girl in question would probably get a lot more negative comments than if she were dating an Indian or Black guy (i knew, for example, a mixed race Black and White girl who fancied a british Pakistani guy but her dad-who was Black-basically told her that she couldn't date him, and i've heard girls get called stuff like "Paki Bashers" if they date a Pakistani guy.)

I think it does all boil down to some sort of cultural ignorance, as well as (sometimes unfounded) negative stereotypes about Asian or African men (i should say, btw, that the reason why i've focussed more on Asian men rather than African men, is that while stereotypes do exist concerning African men, Birmingham has WAY more Asian born men so therefore i know more about them, whereas i've only properly met about 3 or 4 African guys.)


I thought usually men tend to initiate dates/relationships with women rather than the other way round - so wouldn't it be odd for an Asian/African male to want to date a British woman who happened to be unattractive? I was under the impression that the Asian/African male would face more stigma than the British female since he would then firstly be ridiculed for dating an unattractive woman but secondly also for not applying for citizenship through conventional means and thirdly for feeling a need to circumvent the system as such. What is the order of the social scale (including all broader ethnic groups - so European, Arabian, Oriental, Subcontinental, Subsaharan African etc.)? I'm assuming that British males are at the top. Also, in the past Asian/African males were viewed as racially inferior and less intelligent, athletic and hardworking with quite ugly and intimidating features so could it be that many elements of this belief system persist amongst many British women?

What I don't get is why people would laugh at the British woman in question but not laugh more at the Asian/African male. Under current immigration rules, non-EU migrants from Asia/Africa are expected to have more than a threshold net work in their bank accounts and have a certain number of educational qualifications at degree level so I was under the impression that they would not be impoverished (unless they were refugees). I'm not sure about nations outside India, but in India the age of consent for sex is 16 (though in many rural areas this could be violated) - so maybe Asian/African males may not change their behaviour upon arrival in the UK. But part of the citizenship contract in the UK is obviously law-abiding residence and I'm fairly sure in the UK any Asian/African male over 16 who enters into any form of sexual contact with a British female is liable to deportation (and of course, social ostracism).

How come they work in low-paid work if they are Tier 1 and Tier 2 migrants? I was under the impression that most Asian/African male migrants were degreeholders who are specifically screened by the UK Immigration & Nationality Directorate upon entry. Birmingham is the UK's second largest city so I was under the impression that in economic terms it still held more opportunities than nearly all other cities in the UK with the exception of London. I don't think we really have ethnicity-based segregation in London since most migrants are English-speaking and most workplaces will have a mixture of migrant and non-migrant. Wouldn't freshies and non-freshies still meet in social situations like sports clubs, gyms, pubs, bars etc.? What aspects of the accents and clothing of freshies are viewed negatively? Are some accents not understandable to the majority of British women? I haven't really noticed this issue in London but maybe it is different in Birmingham? Also, which clothing types are viewed negatively? For example, I wear a kurta sometimes - could this be seen as intimidating and frightening by British women?

In the examples you gave where disowning can happen - wouldn't the coloured male get more of the blame for being culturally insensitive? For example, could many people feel quite fearful if their daughter/sister/niece happened to date an African/Asian male since there may be many beliefes that coloured males are for example, violent, aggressive, undereducated and uncultured? Do the negative comments tend to come from British males or British females or both? And do they tend to be people who are in their 20s/30s/40s/50s etc. or is it across the whole age spectrum? Do you think it is more acceptable for a white male to date a non-white female (rather than the other way round, which could have connotations of theft).

Also, what are the stereotypes specifically associated with African males? And do you think it might be worthwhile to ensure that Asian/African males are made more aware of the stereotypes surrounding them (upon their arrival) and encouraged to be more culturally sensitive in the presence of British women (i.e. refraining from physical interactions exceeding a handshake).

This is all very interesting since we don't have any vaguely similar stereotypes of British male migrants in Bangalore :smile: Are there any positive stereotypes of African/Asian males or are they generally viewed as people to be avoided?
Reply 154
Original post by N_Thuduwage
Why are you picking on me? :bawling:

I just realised I read your post wrong. Now leave me be :frown:


Lol - I didn't mean to pick on you. I thought you accidentally posted something on this thread that you might have intended to post on another thread.
Original post by Imperatore
*looks at profile pics*

Actually, now that I've seen your hideous face...I speak of you :smile:

Oh noes, someone on the internet thinks I'm ugly, I'm going to go and kill myself now.


Just because I'm not your slice of pie, doesn't mean everyone finds me hideous, you weirdo (yes, I've seen the way you've been trying to provoke girls on here) :wink:
Also, I've had numerous offers from foreign men :fyi:



Original post by SpiritedAway
She's stunning, so it must definitely be yourself :yep:

:shy2: You're too kind. Really.
Original post by >Anna<
Oh noes, someone on the internet thinks I'm ugly, I'm going to go and kill myself now.


Just because I'm not your slice of pie, doesn't mean everyone finds me hideous, you weirdo (yes, I've seen the way you've been trying to provoke girls on here) :wink:
Also, I've had numerous offers from foreign men :fyi:




:shy2: You're too kind. Really.


So let me get this straight.

Someone on the internet thinks you're stunning, you accept that opinion and stupidly believe it...but when someone on the internet thinks you're not you dismiss it?

That doesn't sound very rational now, does it?

Aww, justifying yourself by stating you've had numerous offers. I hadn't realised you'd reached that level of desperation, don't be counting your huge list of offers now :wink:

Yes, she's too kind...or is she just a very good liar? Meh, still doesn't change your appearance either way.
Original post by Imperatore
So let me get this straight.

Someone on the internet thinks you're stunning, you accept that opinion and stupidly believe it...but when someone on the internet thinks you're not you dismiss it?

That doesn't sound very rational now, does it?

Aww, justifying yourself by stating you've had numerous offers. I hadn't realised you'd reached that level of desperation, don't be counting your huge list of offers now :wink:

Yes, she's too kind...or is she just a very good liar? Meh, still doesn't change your appearance either way.


I didn't dismiss it. I accept that you think I'm ugly. I'm just not going to become consumed with self-hatred because of it. Equally, I don't love myself because someone thinks I'm pretty or whatever.

I'm being perfectly rational, you're just using false logic, dear :wink:

And I was not justifying myself at all. I was simply proving you wrong in your statement that foreign men are not interested in British girls.

I would consider that trying to personally offend someone, whom you know very little about, was rather more desperate than stating previous experience.
Original post by >Anna<
I didn't dismiss it. I accept that you think I'm ugly. I'm just not going to become consumed with self-hatred because of it. Equally, I don't love myself because someone thinks I'm pretty or whatever.

I'm being perfectly rational, you're just using false logic, dear :wink:

And I was not justifying myself at all. I was simply proving you wrong in your statement that foreign men are not interested in British girls.

I would consider that trying to personally offend someone, whom you know very little about, was rather more desperate than stating previous experience.


Rational? Deluded sweetheart, you're being delusional :console:
It's okay, all the insecure girls are affected by it so you're not alone :smile:

What do you mean know very little about? What more do you need to know about a person's appearance after seeing photos? I know as much as I possibly need to know to judge that you're not good looking (ugly is such a....harsh word :colondollar:).

You should be consumed by self-hatred though, you so should. It's progressive thinking, because it means you no longer accept your flaws in thinking you're good and instead actually do something to make it better. I'm being helpful :smile:
Yes they do. One of my good friends is going out with a really attractive girl. He's from Singapore. He's gone out with loads of good looking girls and so have I. I'm foreign as well by the way.
Never been personally told this, but I assume some girls won't be attracted to foreigners. Race is a preference like any other.

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