Reasons friend zone happens male to female more than other way around
We all know that generally when a guy asks out or confesses feelings for a long term female friend, 90% of the time he gets rejected. When a woman does this for a male friend, she’s more likely to get accepted. Why is this? Is it because women have higher expectations for a romantic partner in general? Is it because most don’t date friends full stop? Or is it simply that women find less men attractive than men find women attractive?
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It's because women tend to date up rather than down where as men tend to date down than up. They generally have higher standards than men, as a result women have more options for dating partners than men. This is apparent in sites such as tinder and other dating apps where their are far more men than women. Men face more competiton since society puts pressure on them to ask out women and therefore tend to get rejected more.
Because 90% of people asking for dates are guys asking girls. Girls ask guys much less often than guys ask girls, so there are far fewer cases of 'friendzoning' in that direction
Also, it's just the way human society works. Men throw themselves at any girl, and girls select which they want. The statistics for swipes on tinder reflect this
Also, it's just the way human society works. Men throw themselves at any girl, and girls select which they want. The statistics for swipes on tinder reflect this
So if that’s the logical principle, is there a logical way out of friend zone?
Original post by Anonymous
So if that’s the logical principle, is there a logical way out of friend zone?
Yeah, stop being an incel.
Original post by Anonymous
So if that’s the logical principle, is there a logical way out of friend zone?
Encourage women to ask out men. You could also wait until women are in their 30s/40s where thay have far less options.
Well, this to me seems similar to how 80% of the wealth is held by the top 20%. But people can still get to that top 20% by making the right investments, selling yourself up and taking calculated risks. Would this be the same for dating for men?
Men are more likely to misinterpret emotions within a friendship, and hence end up asking someone who has no interest in dating because they think they do.
Female-female friendships tend to be more emotional than male-male friendships, so when female-male friendships form, what seems like a normal friendship for the woman seems like an extra emotional connection to the man.
Female-female friendships tend to be more emotional than male-male friendships, so when female-male friendships form, what seems like a normal friendship for the woman seems like an extra emotional connection to the man.
Original post by Anonymous
Well, this to me seems similar to how 80% of the wealth is held by the top 20%. But people can still get to that top 20% by making the right investments, selling yourself up and taking calculated risks. Would this be the same for dating for men?
Do you know why incels are so unhappy? They gamify their interactions like this. You might think you've 'figured out women' but in reality you come across as manipulative.
Original post by Anonymous
So if that’s the logical principle, is there a logical way out of friend zone?
Yes, stop being the nice guy. Women don't want men who are overly nice with them, too passive and not assertive, who are afraid to say no, afraid to disagree in case of hurting her feelings and allow women to walk all over them. They want someone who has opinions and are assertive.
Original post by Anonymous
Well, this to me seems similar to how 80% of the wealth is held by the top 20%. But people can still get to that top 20% by making the right investments, selling yourself up and taking calculated risks. Would this be the same for dating for men?
Kind of? if you invest into self improvement and gym, you would stand a better chance.
Original post by Vapordave
Do you know why incels are so unhappy? They gamify their interactions like this. You might think you've 'figured out women' but in reality you come across as manipulative.
Well. What’s the alternative?
Original post by Anonymous
Well. What’s the alternative?
Treating women as individual people with their own behaviours, likes and dislikes. Getting to know someone works wonders.
(edited 3 years ago)
Original post by Vapordave
Treating women as individual people with their own behaviours, likes and dislikes. Getting to know someone works wonders.
Yes but that doesn’t lead to anything other than friendship.
Original post by Anonymous
Yes but that doesn’t lead to anything other than friendship.
If you make your intent clear it won't...
Original post by Vapordave
If you make your intent clear it won't...
If you make your intention clear, it goes one way or the other.
Original post by Anonymous
If you make your intention clear, it goes one way or the other.
What?
Original post by Vapordave
What?
You get a yes or no.
Women are less likely to ask men out and in the very least are much more hesitant, they usually only do when they are sure the guy is interested too. Men are more likely to take that risk of being rejected so it seems to happen more.
Your responses on this thread make no sense. If a woman doesnt like you she doesnt like you, and there is nothing you can do about it.
Your responses on this thread make no sense. If a woman doesnt like you she doesnt like you, and there is nothing you can do about it.
Original post by LovelyMrFox
Women are less likely to ask men out and in the very least are much more hesitant, they usually only do when they are sure the guy is interested too. Men are more likely to take that risk of being rejected so it seems to happen more.
Your responses on this thread make no sense. If a woman doesnt like you she doesnt like you, and there is nothing you can do about it.
Your responses on this thread make no sense. If a woman doesnt like you she doesnt like you, and there is nothing you can do about it.
Well yes obviously. But it is logical that the average women have higher expectations than average men as they have more options.
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