Hongkong Applicants 2014
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Original post by clh_hilary
Hong Kong's universities do tend to have very high conditions, and it is very often for our programmes to have higher admission scores than any other prestigious university on earth. So in that sense, it's not really that 'worthwhile' to get into an HK one unless it's cheaper for you.
HKUST's global business programme is very sought-after, and they do have supposedly good job prospect, so it would indeed be great if you could get in. But it's also possible to transfer into the programme, reading a general BBA first. Though that's by no means a guarantee of course.
HKUST's global business programme is very sought-after, and they do have supposedly good job prospect, so it would indeed be great if you could get in. But it's also possible to transfer into the programme, reading a general BBA first. Though that's by no means a guarantee of course.
I guess I will not consider BBA...
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Original post by Wilsoncw1997
I got offer from HKU to do BBA with offer AAA, but I'm declining it.
What are your alternatives?
Original post by poydtreechada
I guess I will not consider BBA...
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It always depends on your alternatives.
Original post by clh_hilary
It always depends on your alternatives.
It's more like a gamble... And the places for GBus are full, so it's really hard to transfer next year. I won't take the risk for doing BBA...
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Original post by poydtreechada
It's more like a gamble... And the places for GBus are full, so it's really hard to transfer next year. I won't take the risk for doing BBA...
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It's a gamble, but I'm just saying cuz I know there have been successful cases.
Original post by clh_hilary
It's a gamble, but I'm just saying cuz I know there have been successful cases.
Yeah.. But I should say that's definitely not me cause I am not really good at academics and I am so stupid
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Original post by poydtreechada
Why? HKU is really good... You have better option? 
Did you apply to CU or UST also? 
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I'm going to the UK, I really don't want a BBA degree.
Original post by Wilsoncw1997
I'm going to the UK, I really don't want a BBA degree.
Fair enough... Which UK university are you going to?
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Original post by marthawyt
Actually, is there anyone else not hearing from CUHK after the 'Acknowledgement of submission of application' email? I sent my application back in October last year and still have got nth from them :/
What courses did you apply?
I put LLB for third choice and they rejected me haha
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Original post by poydtreechada
What courses did you apply?
I put LLB for third choice and they rejected me haha
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I put LLB for third choice and they rejected me haha
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I applied Global Economics and Finance, International Business and Chinese Enterprise and IBBA.
I know there are ppl who have got offers from the global economics programme, and I know these courses are very competitive, but still if it is a rejection I think they should say sth??
Anyway, good luck for your exams
Original post by marthawyt
I applied Global Economics and Finance, International Business and Chinese Enterprise and IBBA.
I know there are ppl who have got offers from the global economics programme, and I know these courses are very competitive, but still if it is a rejection I think they should say sth??
Anyway, good luck for your exams
I know there are ppl who have got offers from the global economics programme, and I know these courses are very competitive, but still if it is a rejection I think they should say sth??
Anyway, good luck for your exams
My friend got a conditional offer from Global Economics for A*AA. I guess f you get good references and predicted grades from your school teachers, it won't be a problem to get an offer. Don't worry too much
I would say IBCE is not a good programme, it's a new course set by CU Business School and I simply just think that it's meaningless... What I heard from others is that, those great chances for internship would be given to those who do Global Business. My friend is studying IBCE at CU and she is not happy with that, she wants to change so badly.
I guess, generally, most of the faculties in CU work really slowly. Only few of my friends got offers from them... :/
Original post by Busteren
So I got offer from HKUST for BBA. But I also got an offer for St Andrews, so I am not sure which one to pick. But anyway I am really glad I got an offer anyway 
whats your conditional offer for HKUST BBA? When did you receive it?
There's an HKU student who transferred from Oxford who just got arrested for planting weed in his hall.
I don't visit this forum much anymore but I thought I would drop by and see this year's Hong Kong thread. I applied last year same time as you guys, and got into top programs at HKU(BBA Law), CUHK(Law), HKUST(GBUS). I have had a great time here, but I have some insight to share with you which I think you should know:
To Hong Kongers:
All I have to say, is that if your family won't run into financial difficulties, take your education abroad. A marginally known university like St Andrews or Durham etc fares better in the HK job market compared to local grads, and you will have MUCH more fun. I don't care what the common perception among Hong Kongers is - Chinese people who went abroad typically have much better communicative skills and a brand name that doesn't exist JUST in Hong Kong. Xenophillic preferences still exist in this place, particularly in the job hunt, so don't mistake yourself. In addition, while you can always make the best of what you are given, studying in Hong Kong on average is more miserable than studying in the UK/USA.
Regarding employment, there only exists two real exceptions to this rule: Law and Medicine. Because of barriers to entry for foreign grads, it's typical for people in Med and Law to get good jobs right out of school. But for the best business jobs, the sad reality in HK is that most of the best jobs go to students they fly in from New York and London, who are often Chinese-Americans or HK students who studied abroad. For example, the top law firms (e.g. Skadden, A&O) regularly take batches of HKU law students, but investment banking front offices wouldn't touch HK BBA students with a 5-foot pole.
See http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/too-many-americans-us-graduates-in-hong-kong for details.
To Internationals:
You can come to HK for a college education if you want: it might look novel or "unique" and it might give you exposure to Asia. But let me be very clear: there is absolutely no reason you should aim to work here after graduation. You are putting yourself through a lot of unnecessary hardship.
The average entry-level wage here is half as high as one you would find in the US or UK. Even after tax, it's still 20-30% lower. To add insult to injury, the cost of living in HK is much, much higher than most cities in western countries. It is on par with New York/London. You will be getting paid less salary with more expenses. This is because locals typically live with their parents until they're 40 and married: and companies KNOW this. They know locals don't have to get housing of their own, so the salary expectation is much, much lower. But as an international, you have no family. You will have to get your own place. Trying to do this is hell. The average entry-level salary for an above average business student is 15,000 HKD a month, pre-tax. The cheapest, most barely livable apartment (think slum-level) you will be able to find is around 7,000-8,000 HKD a month, and that's before utilities and furniture and all that.
To put this into perspective, 15k HKD a month equals to 25k USD a year. The average graduate salary in the US (and most European/Aus countries) is around 45-50k. You can run the tax calculators yourself, but even after-tax you end up with a lot less than elsewhere.
You might not know the implications of this because you're in high school, but you will have a bad, bad time. At least compared to your home country. Unless you're coming over from a place with really bad living standards (like Iraq or something), you really should have better options.
see http://hongkong.geoexpat.com/forum/26/thread293170.html for more information. I encourage you to read all of it.
PEACE
To Hong Kongers:
All I have to say, is that if your family won't run into financial difficulties, take your education abroad. A marginally known university like St Andrews or Durham etc fares better in the HK job market compared to local grads, and you will have MUCH more fun. I don't care what the common perception among Hong Kongers is - Chinese people who went abroad typically have much better communicative skills and a brand name that doesn't exist JUST in Hong Kong. Xenophillic preferences still exist in this place, particularly in the job hunt, so don't mistake yourself. In addition, while you can always make the best of what you are given, studying in Hong Kong on average is more miserable than studying in the UK/USA.
Regarding employment, there only exists two real exceptions to this rule: Law and Medicine. Because of barriers to entry for foreign grads, it's typical for people in Med and Law to get good jobs right out of school. But for the best business jobs, the sad reality in HK is that most of the best jobs go to students they fly in from New York and London, who are often Chinese-Americans or HK students who studied abroad. For example, the top law firms (e.g. Skadden, A&O) regularly take batches of HKU law students, but investment banking front offices wouldn't touch HK BBA students with a 5-foot pole.
See http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/too-many-americans-us-graduates-in-hong-kong for details.
To Internationals:
You can come to HK for a college education if you want: it might look novel or "unique" and it might give you exposure to Asia. But let me be very clear: there is absolutely no reason you should aim to work here after graduation. You are putting yourself through a lot of unnecessary hardship.
The average entry-level wage here is half as high as one you would find in the US or UK. Even after tax, it's still 20-30% lower. To add insult to injury, the cost of living in HK is much, much higher than most cities in western countries. It is on par with New York/London. You will be getting paid less salary with more expenses. This is because locals typically live with their parents until they're 40 and married: and companies KNOW this. They know locals don't have to get housing of their own, so the salary expectation is much, much lower. But as an international, you have no family. You will have to get your own place. Trying to do this is hell. The average entry-level salary for an above average business student is 15,000 HKD a month, pre-tax. The cheapest, most barely livable apartment (think slum-level) you will be able to find is around 7,000-8,000 HKD a month, and that's before utilities and furniture and all that.
To put this into perspective, 15k HKD a month equals to 25k USD a year. The average graduate salary in the US (and most European/Aus countries) is around 45-50k. You can run the tax calculators yourself, but even after-tax you end up with a lot less than elsewhere.
You might not know the implications of this because you're in high school, but you will have a bad, bad time. At least compared to your home country. Unless you're coming over from a place with really bad living standards (like Iraq or something), you really should have better options.
see http://hongkong.geoexpat.com/forum/26/thread293170.html for more information. I encourage you to read all of it.
PEACE
(edited 10 years ago)
Original post by lifeisgood.
I don't visit this forum much anymore but I thought I would drop by and see this year's Hong Kong thread. I applied last year same time as you guys, and got into top programs at HKU(BBA Law), CUHK(Law), HKUST(GBUS). I have had a great time here, but I have some insight to share with you which I think you should know:
To Hong Kongers:
All I have to say, is that if your family won't run into financial difficulties, take your education abroad. A marginally known university like St Andrews or Durham etc fares better in the HK job market compared to local grads, and you will have MUCH more fun. I don't care what the common perception among Hong Kongers is - Chinese people who went abroad typically have much better communicative skills and a brand name that doesn't exist JUST in Hong Kong. Xenophillic preferences still exist in this place, particularly in the job hunt, so don't mistake yourself. In addition, while you can always make the best of what you are given, studying in Hong Kong on average is more miserable than studying in the UK/USA.
Regarding employment, there only exists two real exceptions to this rule: Law and Medicine. Because of barriers to entry for foreign grads, it's typical for people in Med and Law to get good jobs right out of school. But for the best business jobs, the sad reality in HK is that most of the best jobs go to students they fly in from New York and London, who are often Chinese-Americans or HK students who studied abroad. For example, the top law firms (e.g. Skadden, A&O) regularly take batches of HKU law students, but investment banking front offices wouldn't touch HK BBA students with a 5-foot pole.
See http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/too-many-americans-us-graduates-in-hong-kong for details.
To Internationals:
You can come to HK for a college education if you want: it might look novel or "unique" and it might give you exposure to Asia. But let me be very clear: there is absolutely no reason you should aim to work here after graduation. You are putting yourself through a lot of unnecessary hardship.
The average entry-level wage here is half as high as one you would find in the US or UK. Even after tax, it's still 20-30% lower. To add insult to injury, the cost of living in HK is much, much higher than most cities in western countries. It is on par with New York/London. You will be getting paid less salary with more expenses. This is because locals typically live with their parents until they're 40 and married: and companies KNOW this. They know locals don't have to get housing of their own, so the salary expectation is much, much lower. But as an international, you have no family. You will have to get your own place. Trying to do this is hell. The average entry-level salary for an above average business student is 15,000 HKD a month, pre-tax. The cheapest, most barely livable apartment (think slum-level) you will be able to find is around 7,000-8,000 HKD a month, and that's before utilities and furniture and all that.
To put this into perspective, 15k HKD a month equals to 25k USD a year. The average graduate salary in the US (and most European/Aus countries) is around 45-50k. You can run the tax calculators yourself, but even after-tax you end up with a lot less than elsewhere.
You might not know the implications of this because you're in high school, but you will have a bad, bad time. At least compared to your home country. Unless you're coming over from a place with really bad living standards (like Iraq or something), you really should have better options.
see http://hongkong.geoexpat.com/forum/26/thread293170.html for more information. I encourage you to read all of it.
PEACE
To Hong Kongers:
All I have to say, is that if your family won't run into financial difficulties, take your education abroad. A marginally known university like St Andrews or Durham etc fares better in the HK job market compared to local grads, and you will have MUCH more fun. I don't care what the common perception among Hong Kongers is - Chinese people who went abroad typically have much better communicative skills and a brand name that doesn't exist JUST in Hong Kong. Xenophillic preferences still exist in this place, particularly in the job hunt, so don't mistake yourself. In addition, while you can always make the best of what you are given, studying in Hong Kong on average is more miserable than studying in the UK/USA.
Regarding employment, there only exists two real exceptions to this rule: Law and Medicine. Because of barriers to entry for foreign grads, it's typical for people in Med and Law to get good jobs right out of school. But for the best business jobs, the sad reality in HK is that most of the best jobs go to students they fly in from New York and London, who are often Chinese-Americans or HK students who studied abroad. For example, the top law firms (e.g. Skadden, A&O) regularly take batches of HKU law students, but investment banking front offices wouldn't touch HK BBA students with a 5-foot pole.
See http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/too-many-americans-us-graduates-in-hong-kong for details.
To Internationals:
You can come to HK for a college education if you want: it might look novel or "unique" and it might give you exposure to Asia. But let me be very clear: there is absolutely no reason you should aim to work here after graduation. You are putting yourself through a lot of unnecessary hardship.
The average entry-level wage here is half as high as one you would find in the US or UK. Even after tax, it's still 20-30% lower. To add insult to injury, the cost of living in HK is much, much higher than most cities in western countries. It is on par with New York/London. You will be getting paid less salary with more expenses. This is because locals typically live with their parents until they're 40 and married: and companies KNOW this. They know locals don't have to get housing of their own, so the salary expectation is much, much lower. But as an international, you have no family. You will have to get your own place. Trying to do this is hell. The average entry-level salary for an above average business student is 15,000 HKD a month, pre-tax. The cheapest, most barely livable apartment (think slum-level) you will be able to find is around 7,000-8,000 HKD a month, and that's before utilities and furniture and all that.
To put this into perspective, 15k HKD a month equals to 25k USD a year. The average graduate salary in the US (and most European/Aus countries) is around 45-50k. You can run the tax calculators yourself, but even after-tax you end up with a lot less than elsewhere.
You might not know the implications of this because you're in high school, but you will have a bad, bad time. At least compared to your home country. Unless you're coming over from a place with really bad living standards (like Iraq or something), you really should have better options.
see http://hongkong.geoexpat.com/forum/26/thread293170.html for more information. I encourage you to read all of it.
PEACE
I definitely agree that doing a degree abroad is better in general. People just have a bias really. But the money saves up from doing bachelor's locally can be more than enough to fund a master's overseas, so that's one thing to think about.
Regarding salary levels, I want to point out that business students actually get lower salary than the average. In HKU, for example, the average is $18662 in 2012, but only $17618 for BBAs, $16858 for the very competitive E&F, $16075 for A&F. The only exceptions are the $27099 for BBA Law and $30600 for IBGM.
I don't think whether you live with your parents led to the low salary in general. The thing about Hong Kong is that there are two economies, so you can go and have lunch at HKD$200+ every day, and at the same time you can be more modest and lunch at more down-to-earth restaurants at $30-40 or even $10-20 if you happen to be around certain areas. Alcohol is expensive, but you can also choose to buy beer or even wine in convenient stores or supermarkets from cHKD$10-50. That is ignoring the fact you tend to be paid more for being white.
Also, you have to recognise the fact that Hong Kong's universities have a higher employment rate than overseas ones. So if you were from Oxford, you might end up unemployed, whilst if you were from HKU you may still get paid $12000.
(edited 10 years ago)
Original post by naizz_07
Just received an offer for Business and Management and HKUST for IB 37 points.
Is there some group of facebook for new entrants?
Is there some group of facebook for new entrants?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/379487995249/
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