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Barts vs. KCL

Hi, looking for some advice on which to choose out of Barts/QMUoL or KCL.

Some contextual information:
I am currently on a gap year after sitting my A-levels this summer. I had an unsuccessful application for medicine last year. I was rejected before interview to Leicester and KCL. I was rejected after interview from Imperial College and Leeds. At the time, I had predicted grades of A*A*A* in Maths, Bio, Chem and a UCAT of 2740 band 2.

This year:
Achieved A-levels: A*A*A*
VR: 700
DM: 780
QR: 900
AR: 750
Total: 3130
SJT: Band 2
Not sitting the BMAT this year.

GCSEs:
9: Maths, Biology, Chemistry, Physics, Geography
8: Computer Science
7: English language, English literature, Religious Studies, Design and Technology
6: French

I believe I meet the minimum academic requirements of both universities, but as far as I can tell, Queen Mary does not use my GCSEs until selection for offers, if at all. On the other hand, Kings uses my GCSEs out of the gate and I would only score about half marks for that section compared to a lot of people who I am seeing with straight grade 9s, and my band 2 would also drop me 5 points at Kings (assuming they are still using the points system).

I feel like Queen Mary would be a safer bet, but I would rather attend Kings (which uses CBL on the course and MMI for interview, whereas Queen mary uses PBL and panel type interviews). In terms of other choices, I intend to apply to Bristol, Leicester and UEA, then Biochemistry at Imperial College as my 5th.

If anyone has any advice I would appreciate it a lot.
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Original post by enfentonk
Hi, looking for some advice on which to choose out of Barts/QMUoL or KCL.

Some contextual information:
I am currently on a gap year after sitting my A-levels this summer. I had an unsuccessful application for medicine last year. I was rejected before interview to Leicester and KCL. I was rejected after interview from Imperial College and Leeds. At the time, I had predicted grades of A*A*A* in Maths, Bio, Chem and a UCAT of 2740 band 2.

This year:
Achieved A-levels: A*A*A*
VR: 700
DM: 780
QR: 900
AR: 750
Total: 3130
SJT: Band 2
Not sitting the BMAT this year.

GCSEs:
9: Maths, Biology, Chemistry, Physics, Geography
8: Computer Science
7: English language, English literature, Religious Studies, Design and Technology
6: French

I believe I meet the minimum academic requirements of both universities, but as far as I can tell, Queen Mary does not use my GCSEs until selection for offers, if at all. On the other hand, Kings uses my GCSEs out of the gate and I would only score about half marks for that section compared to a lot of people who I am seeing with straight grade 9s, and my band 2 would also drop me 5 points at Kings (assuming they are still using the points system).

I feel like Queen Mary would be a safer bet, but I would rather attend Kings (which uses CBL on the course and MMI for interview, whereas Queen mary uses PBL and panel type interviews). In terms of other choices, I intend to apply to Bristol, Leicester and UEA, then Biochemistry at Imperial College as my 5th.

If anyone has any advice I would appreciate it a lot.


That's a great UCAT score. And though your GCSEs aren't perfect, they're still very good. You're right, Queen Mary's is safer in terms of getting an interview, cos of the not perfect GCSEs and Band 2 in UCAT. But you'd still be a pretty strong applicant, so if you're feeling confident about your other applications, I would say yh apply to King's.

You'll probably get more reliable advice if you post all yours stats on the Which Medical School Should I Apply To thread
Reply 3
Original post by a._5
That's a great UCAT score. And though your GCSEs aren't perfect, they're still very good. You're right, Queen Mary's is safer in terms of getting an interview, cos of the not perfect GCSEs and Band 2 in UCAT. But you'd still be a pretty strong applicant, so if you're feeling confident about your other applications, I would say yh apply to King's.

You'll probably get more reliable advice if you post all yours stats on the Which Medical School Should I Apply To thread

Thank you for the advice :biggrin:
Reply 4
just found this old thread but i hope you're doing alright! you seem to be a strong applicant, i'm sure you're doing well :smile:

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